Want opinions from the political dis'ers

[Maleficent13]

Originally posted by septbride2002
I have a question and I am not trying to be condescending - this is a legitimate question.

How can someone be pro-choice but anti-death penalty.

I mean...both topics deal with taking the life of a human being.

By the way to keep the topic straight I am both Pro- Choice and Pro Dealth Penalty.

~Amanda

It's a good question, and actually, I have struggled with it. I can't honestly answer this to my own satisfaction, so I don't think I could explain it very well to anyone else. I think life experiences have much to do with my feelings on both issues.

 

[N.Bailey]

I found it, I found it! Bush came out at 62% for me. The best, but not really close.

http://www.presidentmatch.com/Guide.jsp2

 

[ThreeCircles]

Eewww...

Got 5% for w. I think I need a shower now...

 

[AirForceRocks]

Originally posted by septbride2002
I have a question and I am not trying to be condescending - this is a legitimate question.

How can someone be pro-choice but anti-death penalty.

I mean...both topics deal with taking the life of a human being.

By the way to keep the topic straight I am both Pro- Choice and Pro Dealth Penalty.

~Amanda

I've often wondered the same thing...and I'm also pro-choice/pro-death penalty.

 

[cati]

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[Galahad]

Originally posted by N.Bailey
I found it, I found it! Bush came out at 62% for me. The best, but not really close.

http://www.presidentmatch.com/Guide.jsp2

Interesting. Got 73% for Bush, 45% for Kerry and 16% for old Denny.

BTW, to the OP, I would have considered you a liberal before but I agree with others that you are probably more libertarian.

 

[two4ruff]

No surprises here - 67% for my candidate

I'm so boring, predictable....sigh...

 

[auntpolly]

Originally posted by Bumbles
sounds fairly libertarian to me

I agree - you're a libertarian! I identify with them more than any other party too.

 

[wdwdvcdad]

Libertarians are anti abortion & find unions to be like anything else; good when run properly, bad when abused.

 

[auntpolly]

Originally posted by wdwdvcdad
Libertarians are anti abortion & find unions to be like anything else; good when run properly, bad when abused.

The Libertarian Party is not anti-abortion. Some libertarians are agaisnt abortion, but the party says:
<i>women's Rights and Abortion
The Issue: Recognizing that abortion is a very sensitive issue and that people, including libertarians, can hold good-faith views on both sides, we believe the government should be kept out of the question.</i>

 

[Alice28]

I agree with what others have said; based on what you said, I think you are a Libertarian. Now I am going to go take that quiz!

 

[Alice28]

For me, Bush 67%, Kerry 39%. Interesting.

 

[wdwdvcdad]

Originally posted by auntpolly
Libertarians aren't anti-abortion.

sorry. You are corerect in terms of the party platform. They do state that there should be no government funding of abortion or any medical care for that matter. My circle of libertarian friends and people I have spoken to (Ken Krawchuck, PA candidate for Gov) are unanimously against abortion, seeing it as murder. Krawchuck proposes a "pro-option" plan...a bit of double-speakl for the present, but doable in the forseable future.

 

[auntpolly]

Originally posted by wdwdvcdad
sorry. You are corerect in terms of the party platform. They do state that there should be no government funding of abortion or any medical care for that matter. My circle of libertarian friends and people I have spoken to (Ken Krawchuck, PA candidate for Gov) are unanimously against abortion, seeing it as murder. Krawchuck proposes a "pro-option" plan...a bit of double-speakl for the present, but doable in the forseable future.

I'm not sure what you mean by "pro-option", but I'm very much for the government staying out of it - and most everything else that is none of their business!

 

[wdwdvcdad]

His idea of "pro-option":
http://www.kenk.org/abortion.php

like I said, it is a bit of double speak.

Those who agree with me see human life at conception. We, as libertarians feel that humans have the right to life and freedom. Therefore, that unborn child, a human life, has as much right to life as the mother of that child. To kill the child is murder. So, we feel that it is within a government's right to prevent a murder if possible, or at least change the law making it legal to murder the child.

 

[auntpolly]

Originally posted by wdwdvcdad
His idea of "pro-option":
http://www.kenk.org/abortion.php

like I said, it is a bit of double speak.

Those who agree with me see human life at conception. We, as libertarians feel that humans have the right to life and freedom. Therefore, that unborn child, a human life, has as much right to life as the mother of that child. To kill the child is murder. So, we feel that it is within a government's right to prevent a murder if possible, or at least change the law making it legal to murder the child.

That's interesting - thanks for the clarification. So you are going against the party platform on this one. The one I have most trouble with is gun control. While I am really agianst the government taking away personal freedoms -- I just can't get over my hatred of the NRA!

 

[wdwdvcdad]

I do not own a gun, but if you want to own a bazooka, I think you have the right to. By the way...I NEVER agree with anyone or any thing completely...That's why I annoy people!

 

[auntpolly]

Originally posted by wdwdvcdad
I do not own a gun, but if you want to own a bazooka, I think you have the right to. By the way...I NEVER agree with anyone or any thing completely...That's why I annoy people!

Join the club!

I think the problem with the libertarian ideals, as wonderful as they can be, is that they are so theoretical, and overnight changes would be so impractical. I mean, yes, I believe almost all of the principles of the party platform -- but do I think they all could work? I'm not sure. What do you think?

 

[N.Bailey]

I'm a Centrist:

Centrists favor selective government intervention and emphasize what they commonly describe as "practical solutions" to current problems. They tend to keep an open mind on political issues. Many centrists feel that government serves as a check on excessive liberty.

 

[wdwdvcdad]

Originally posted by N.Bailey
I'm a Centrist:

Centrists favor selective government intervention and emphasize what they commonly describe as "practical solutions" to current problems. They tend to keep an open mind on political issues. Many centrists feel that government serves as a check on excessive liberty.

logically, there cannot be any such thing as governmental control of excessive liberty. the idea of liberty implies liberty for all. Therefore real liberty impedes no one person from freedom until that person impedes someone elses liberty. so, it does not control excessive liberty, it promotes liberty for all by punishing those who limit others' liberty. I'm of the belief that centrist actually stand for nothing. They are pragmatists who want to make everyone happy. I do not mean this as a personal attack, but rather a general observation.

As for immediate implementation of libertarian ideals. I say go for it. Yeah, there would be some anarchy for a bit, but people would finally realize that they must get off of their duff, get to work, or starve. Our police could secure real criminals instead of busting people for pot. The profit will be taken out of street drugs because it would be legalized, more readily available, thus driving the price down (i do not use & have no desire to), & removing much of the crime from the streets. Sure, more junkies would die, but eventually (5 years or so) things would begin to level off in terms of order. Quite frankly, I think it would be worth a try. Sorry for the ramble...a little stream of consciousness for the masses.