Walking a reservation

[Cfabar1]

It's Disney's sandbox. They can do whatever they would like by and large.

 

[Sandisw]

The inconsistency strikes again

The good news is that it’s no longer inconsistent. No one is given an exception!

 

[Girlstar30]

The good news is that it’s no longer inconsistent. No one is given an exception!

The good news for me would be to change the rule

 

[Girlstar30]

The good news is that it’s no longer inconsistent. No one is given an exception!

And trust me some people will still be granted more than one transfer depending on who they get. Just not as often.

 

[muppets3d]

If only more of the overwhelming majority of experienced members, podcast hosts, and DVC informational sites would caution new buyers to not have multiple UYs while they are still figuring out the system…. then transfers between memberships wouldn't be necessary….

The podcasts I've listened to typically give good advice, but some of them are so blinded by sponsorship that they gloss over the finer points of buying and selling DVC which is a shame. Use year is a complicated topic that deserves some care to explain.

 

[AstroBlasters]

The podcasts I've listened to typically give good advice, but some of them are so blinded by sponsorship that they gloss over the finer points of buying and selling DVC which is a shame. Use year is a complicated topic that deserves some care to explain.

I did enjoy the original DIS podcasts with “he who must not be named” where they had a variety of sponsors from different companies.

 

[Sandisw]

And trust me some people will still be granted more than one transfer depending on who they get. Just not as often.

I’m confident they are going to stay pretty strict with this one

But, if that was something used by certain set of owners in the commercial world, then it makes perfect sense for it have been done.

And, let’s be fair…why should someone who has multiple membership, which was a choice, be given something owners with just one do not?

And I say this as someone with three memberships. This is a perfect example IMO of DVC making a decision that has a very small impact on the membership as a whole while at least attempting to reduce behaviors they don’t want.

 

[Girlstar30]

I’m confident they are going to stay pretty strict with this one

Strictly inconsistent

 

[Sandisw]

If only more of the overwhelming majority of experienced members, podcast hosts, and DVC informational sites would caution new buyers to not have multiple UYs while they are still figuring out the system…. then transfers between memberships wouldn't be necessary….

I do think it’s a common recommendation here to think carefully.

Even when the exception was being given, many here cautioned it was just that and could be stopped.

We have always had multiple and this is why we never worried about transfers…it’s easier for me to just borrow or connect stays between memberships and hope I never have to move!

 

[tx911]

At least they are consistently inconsistent?

Is that similar to Unconsciously Incompetent?

 

[PolyRob]

I did enjoy the original DIS podcasts with “he who must not be named” where they had a variety of sponsors from different companies.

I haven't watched the DVC Fan show since all those changes occurred. It just wasn't the same!

 

[AstroBlasters]

I haven't watched the DVC Fan show since all those changes occurred. It just wasn't the same!

The first few episodes post change were a train wreck, but IMO they pretty quickly righted the ship and now I never miss a week.

I’ve even joined their entry level Patreon.

 

[drusba]

The original transfer rule was one per use year, but a transfer was defined in the DVC Membership Agreements and Home Resort Rules and Regulations as: "Transfer shall mean the assignment by one Club Member of the use of his or her Home Resort Vacation Points to another Club Member during a given Use Year." That is still the definition of a transfer in both such documents. That definition seemingly does not prohibit a member from doing multiple transfers between his own memberships. DVC's position otherwise would be the argument that either (a) a club member who owns two memberships is actually two different club members, or (b) the transfer rule is absolute in that a member cannot transfer points between the member's own memberships because the transfer rule allows only transfers between different club members.

As far as I am aware, DVC has always allowed, until earlier this year, a member to do more than one transfer between the member's own memberships. I recall seeing mention of that fact in posts in the early 2,000s. I learned of the new "rule" that a member's transfer between the member's own memberships is subject to the one transfer rule via a telephone call with MS in April 2025 when I did a transfer between my memberships, and apparently others have had similar conversations. I have not actually seen DVC's formal issuance of any such new rule or any document that has expressly changed the definition of a transfer in the Membership Agreements or Home Resort Rules.

Note also that though the original transfer rule was one transfer per use year, that rule itself was actually changed in the early 2,000s to allow any member to do an unlimited number of transfers in any use year as long as all the transfers were in one direction, i.e., the member could transfer out multiple times, or transfer in multiple times, but not do both in any given use year. That rule change actually contributed to professional renters being able to do many rentals as they could use their own points to do rentals and do deals with many members to have them transfer points to the professional renter member who would then use them to do rentals. Rentals became a problem because the professional renters were using lots of points, including transferred points, to reserve times that were highly desired such as first two weeks of December, Christmas week and other holiday times. In about 2007, DVC returned to the original transfer rule of one in or out per use year, but it did not stop allowing members to transfer multiple times among their own memberships.

The new rule, if there actually is one, to limit members to only one transfer per use year between the member's different memberships appears to be another one done to decrease professional renter activities. If there is such a new rule, I question its validity because the transfer definition does not prohibit a member from doing multiple transfers among the member's own memberships. The rule DVC should be enforcing, but apparently has not done so in the past, is the rule stated in the Home Resort Rules and Regulations, §II(6)(k) which states: "Club Members are expressly prohibited from receiving any compensation for engaging in any transfer activity." Perhaps making a member who is requesting a transfer to confirm at the time of such request that there is no compensation involved with the transfer, and providing some penalty if DVC learns the confirmation made is false, such as cancelling any reservation made using the points, is something DVC should consider doing..

 

[Tatebeck]

The original transfer rule was one per use year, but a transfer was defined in the DVC Membership Agreements and Home Resort Rules and Regulations as: "Transfer shall mean the assignment by one Club Member of the use of his or her Home Resort Vacation Points to another Club Member during a given Use Year." That is still the definition of a transfer in both such documents. That definition seemingly does not prohibit a member from doing multiple transfers between his own memberships. DVC's position otherwise would be the argument that either (a) a club member who owns two memberships is actually two different club members, or (b) the transfer rule is absolute in that a member cannot transfer points between the member's own memberships because the transfer rule allows only transfers between different club members.

As far as I am aware, DVC has always allowed, until earlier this year, a member to do more than one transfer between the member's own memberships. I recall seeing mention of that fact in posts in the early 2,000s. I learned of the new "rule" that a member's transfer between the member's own memberships is subject to the one transfer rule via a telephone call with MS in April 2025 when I did a transfer between my memberships, and apparently others have had similar conversations. I have not actually seen DVC's formal issuance of any such new rule or any document that has expressly changed the definition of a transfer in the Membership Agreements or Home Resort Rules.

Note also that though the original transfer rule was one transfer per use year, that rule itself was actually changed in the early 2,000s to allow any member to do an unlimited number of transfers in any use year as long as all the transfers were in one direction, i.e., the member could transfer out multiple times, or transfer in multiple times, but not do both in any given use year. That rule change actually contributed to professional renters being able to do many rentals as they could use their own points to do rentals and do deals with many members to have them transfer points to the professional renter member who would then use them to do rentals. Rentals became a problem because the professional renters were using lots of points, including transferred points, to reserve times that were highly desired such as first two weeks of December, Christmas week and other holiday times. In about 2007, DVC returned to the original transfer rule of one in or out per use year, but it did not stop allowing members to transfer multiple times among their own memberships.

The new rule, if there actually is one, to limit members to only one transfer per use year between the member's different memberships appears to be another one done to decrease professional renter activities. If there is such a new rule, I question its validity because the transfer definition does not prohibit a member from doing multiple transfers among the member's own memberships. The rule DVC should be enforcing, but apparently has not done so in the past, is the rule stated in the Home Resort Rules and Regulations, §II(6)(k) which states: "Club Members are expressly prohibited from receiving any compensation for engaging in any transfer activity." Perhaps making a member who is requesting a transfer to confirm at the time of such request that there is no compensation involved with the transfer, and providing some penalty if DVC learns the confirmation made is false, such as cancelling any reservation made using the points, is something DVC should consider doing..

They do specify that transfer rules apply both to club members (the person) and the club memberships themselves. Section 6.k.


"During a given Use Year, only one (1) Transfer per Club Member or Club membership, either as Transferee or Transferor, will be permitted."

So as soon as a club member (owner/person) makes 1 transfer, they have now used their 1 maximum transfer and their other memberships are locked as well.

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I also do think that they are considering one physical person (Club ID) to be multiple "members" (membership #s) when they are transferring between multiple of their different memberships.

If your thought process was correct, and moving points between one person's multiple membership numbers was NOT considered a transfer, then I think there would technically be no way for a person to move points between their different memberships at all.

After all, the documents say the only way to get points from 1 member or membership to another is a via a transfer. So if moving between your own memberships is not a transfer, then you wouldn't be able to move them at all.

I for one personally would prefer the 1 "transfer" over nothing at all.