Wahoo! Evolution stickers unconstitutional!

JMD said:
I appreciate the fact that you post references to back up your arguement, but the sources you are posting are very biased. I'm sure I can find tons of information disputing evolution from religous based sites.

Biased in the way of them using cold, hard facts, sure. Go ahead though, toss your religious arguments onto this thread. I guarantee each one can be shot down.

But there is no evidence that humans evolved from something else.

Are you kidding?
 
I always understood evolution to be a scientific theory made up of facts. The specifics of the theory evolve as more facts come in, and the theory of evolution is the theory of "how" evolution occurs, not "if". Whaddya think?
I agree. The whole idea of the stickers in the books was ridiculous to begin with.
Personally, I believe God created the universe. If he did it with a Big Bang, hey cool. (Why not start things off with a bang?) And why not create humans through evolution? It makes no difference to me how God did it.
I believe pretty much the same thing.
 
I honestly can't understand why the opposition objects to anyone learning about "evolution" or where we came from? Don't they believe in modern medicine? Wouldn't they want the most current, cutting edge treatment for a disease? Doesn't the word "evolution" in essence only mean change? They do not think that the world has changed since it's beginning? How do they explain natural phenomenon that changes our geography like, earthquakes, floods, tsunamis, glaciar meltdowns, etc. ? Woudn't it make sense that if the geography has changed that the bio (life) on our planet has also changed?

It's such a fascinating, world and universe out there why not learn all you can about it? Why would some people want to be left in the dark ages? :earseek:
 

chadfromdallas said:
Biased in the way of them using cold, hard facts, sure.

Says who? They guy who wrote the article?

chadfromdallas said:
Go ahead though, toss your religious arguments onto this thread. I guarantee each one can be shot down.

Lol. Who said I have religious arguements? I didn't. How do you know what I believe? My point was that I can easily find biased information supporting the other side of the arguement. So posting links from a pro-evolution web-site is a waste of time


chadfromdallas said:
Are you kidding?


Nope.
 
Chad...ever feel like you're just beating your head against a brick wall ? :)

If people want to teach their children superstitions (creationism), then they are more than welcome to do so...in their own homes and churches. But schools ought to be concerned with observable FACTS, not mystical fictions. If people want to mix religion with school, then they can either send their children to a private school, or better yet, move to the middle east where such practices are common. If you want a look at where that "slippery slope" leads, take a look at the "education" that kids receive in madrassas.
 
WWTBAMFAN said:
The "intelligent design" mess was just a thinly disguised way to get the creationism back into the classroom. I am glad that the court did the right thing here.

A town not to far from me is going through the intelligent design argument, where they want to teach that in the schools. I cannot emphasize how backward this area is. They are a very insular community made up of mostly white farmers. I know a woman who grew up here, and she told me what it was like there.

So....I still don't get it? :blush:
 
I do not believe that evolution is in any way fact.

I readily admit that Creationism is faith-based, not science based, but believing it in no way makes me less intelligent than someone who believes wholeheartedly in evolution.

I believe in micro-evolution (e.g. adaptation within a species), but I don't believe in macro-evolution (e.g. shifts from one species to another). Incidentally, there are a number of scientific laws and theories accepted by the scientific community that macro-evolution violates.
 
Some kids in public schools don't have that choice. Not all parents can afford to send there kids to private schools or have the luxury of home schooling them.

They indeed had a choice. They could have chosen to wait to have children until they had the money to send them to private schools or home school them. Instead they chose to have children knowing that they would be forced to go to Godless public schoolls..
 
minniepumpernickel said:
I honestly can't understand why the opposition objects to anyone learning about "evolution" or where we came from? Don't they believe in modern medicine? Wouldn't they want the most current, cutting edge treatment for a disease? Doesn't the word "evolution" in essence only mean change? They do not think that the world has changed since it's beginning? How do they explain natural phenomenon that changes our geography like, earthquakes, floods, tsunamis, glaciar meltdowns, etc. ? Wouldn't it make sense that if the geography has changed that the bio (life) on our planet has also changed?

It's such a fascinating, world and universe out there why not learn all you can about it? Why would some people want to be left in the dark ages? :earseek:

Excellent points, Minnie P. I'm from Kansas and we've been having the Evolution battle for several years now. I don't understand what's wrong my kids learning evolution in a science class, and then exposing them to Genesis at home and church. They're just learning more, and they can make up their own minds. The problem of NOT teaching evolution at all is they are expected to know it on standardized tests and when they get to college. It would be the equivalent of not including the US Constitution in a social studies curriculum.
 
I agree with the previous post. I don't have a problem with my kids being taught about evolution at school as a theory. I believe evolution happens but is a tool God allows for us to change and adapt. This world is to complex to be a happenstance. My kids know that alot of the things they will hear at school will be in direct opposition to the Biblical principles I have taught them, but the world is no longer a christian world so their going to be exposed to others opinions and ideas at sometime or another.
 
Just popping in for a quick reminder... please be respectful of other posters' viewpoints.
 
chobie said:
They indeed had a choice. They could have chosen to wait to have children until they had the money to send them to private schools or home school them. Instead they chose to have children knowing that they would be forced to go to Godless public schoolls..


This has to been one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. People shouldn't have kids unless they can send them to private school or home school them?

:laughing:
 


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