VWL Groupies & Lovers Thread (Special Collectors Edition 2.5) updated 2 February 2025

[DiznyDi]

Wishing brobrosmom a very Happy Anniversary! Celebrate and enjoy your day!

Thanks Granny for the aerial photos. Everything is really moving along.

I'm happy to see the food kiosks for Holidays Around The World. I'm excited to try them!

Hi Muush!

 

[jimmytammy]

Granny
Thanks for the pictures. It really makes me realize what a grand(not meaning grand in a good way either)undertaking this whole project is. Seeing the cabins that close to our Villas makes me even more sad. The buffer of trees will lead me to asking for a room down the hall rather than near the elevators just to hide the mess.

That dumpster view is starting to look a lot more appealing these days. At least with dumpsters, you know there is always that possibility of sighting bears, in their natural habitat(sort of like Yogi and Boo Boo...wait, wrong animation dept. Excuse me, Humphrey the bear, Mickeys buddy on the totem pole)

And where are the boulders? Maybe they are thinking we villa owners are bringing our own rocks and pepper the cabins(like a bunch of kids on the school playground). Get enough of us to do so and eventually we have a boulder ridge!

Disclaimer: For those of you that know me, you know I am kidding about all this, throwing rocks, etc. I don't have a mean bone in my body. For those of you who haven't met me yet, please don't let all my shenanigans scare you off!

Now, to resume, proceed forward with said shenanigans

 

[bobbiwoz]

Granny
Thanks for the pictures. It really makes me realize what a grand(not meaning grand in a good way either)undertaking this whole project is. Seeing the cabins that close to our Villas makes me even more sad. The buffer of trees will lead me to asking for a room down the hall rather than near the elevators just to hide the mess.

That dumpster view is starting to look a lot more appealing these days. At least with dumpsters, you know there is always that possibility of sighting bears, in their natural habitat(sort of like Yogi and Boo Boo...wait, wrong animation dept. Excuse me, Humphrey the bear, Mickeys buddy on the totem pole)

And where are the boulders? Maybe they are thinking we villa owners are bringing our own rocks and pepper the cabins(like a bunch of kids on the school playground). Get enough of us to do so and eventually we have a boulder ridge!

Disclaimer: For those of you that know me, you know I am kidding about all this, throwing rocks, etc. I don't have a mean bone in my body. For those of you who haven't met me yet, please don't let all my shenanigans scare you off!

Now, to resume, proceed forward with said shenanigans

A Groupie can dream.

 

[horselover]

Thanks for the pictures Granny (I think).

 

[ottawagreg]

I do to an extent. I use packing cubes for all my trips. Best things ever! I pull out the cubes from the suitcase & pop them in the drawer. Done unpacking! I use a packing folder for shirts & I do hang all the shirts in the closest. If you have no idea what I'm talking about do yourself a favor & check out packing cubes! I've yet to introduce someone to them that didn't thank me later.

Julie,

Thank you for the packing cubes tip. We ship our clothes ground delivery on UPS and they are waiting for us at the resort. My wife always puts the clothes into shopping bags inside the shipping box. This will stack so much better and probably help the box hold up better in shipping. Plus they are going to be handy when we do the laundry (we are studio dwellers), not mention the unpacking thing.

I bought a couple of sets online yesterday. 57 days and counting down for us.

Thanks very much sharing that info.

greg

 

[sleepydog25]

That section caught my eye too Flossy. Maybe it is the boulders.

Hmmm. Seems very geometric in concept. I'm even more curious about what the building is that is due south of the new pool and directly across from the third cabin. . .

 

[Granny]

Hmmm. Seems very geometric in concept. I'm even more curious about what the building is that is due south of the new pool and directly across from the third cabin. . .

I'm still holding on to the Community Hall speculation for that building. Keep in mind that anything they do with the new construction efforts is primarily to support the sales of CCV.

And who knows...they might even restrict the Community Hall to only CCV owners. It would cause an outrage from existing owners, but hey, that's the kind of thing that we wouldn't put past Disney, right? After all, access to a Community Hall is a perk, and Disney has clearly said that they control perks and can add or delete them at any time.




I'm liking this avatar maybe too much.

 

[ottawagreg]

I took a pencil and "measured" then length of a cabin. Then I laid that over the roof of the villas.If you take out the width of the hallway it seems like the size of two units. I have not stayed in a 1 BR (next summer is our first time) but the width of the cabin would about the same as a 1 BR unit? The cabins seem very large to me. I don't see how I could spend a single night in one. 200 points per night for those units, is that a reasonable guess? We like to vacation there at least twice per year. Two nights would break the bank for me.

Granny, you may be right. Community hall? Big whoop! A couple of video games and a ping pong table. Most of the special perks are not that enticing to me. Just saying.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

I'm still holding on to the Community Hall speculation for that building. Keep in mind that anything they do with the new construction efforts is primarily to support the sales of CCV.

And who knows...they might even restrict the Community Hall to only CCV owners. It would cause an outrage from existing owners, but hey, that's the kind of thing that we wouldn't put past Disney, right? After all, access to a Community Hall is a perk, and Disney has clearly said that they control perks and can add or delete them at any time.




I'm liking this avatar maybe too much.

I think I've decided to add that to my signature line right next to our VWL Moose - if you don't mind?

For that building - it would be nice to have the community hall but there was this picture posted by Greg. Maybe the label just ended up over it and isn't indicative of the building itself but here it is again. A little strange that a pool requires a pool mechanical building that is approx half the size of the pool though!

I took a pencil and "measured" then length of a cabin. Then I laid that over the roof of the villas.If you take out the width of the hallway it seems like the size of two units. I have not stayed in a 1 BR (next summer is our first time) but the width of the cabin would about the same as a 1 BR unit? The cabins seem very large to me. I don't see how I could spend a single night in one. 200 points per night for those units, is that a reasonable guess? We like to vacation there at least twice per year. Two nights would break the bank for me.

Granny, you may be right. Community hall? Big whoop! A couple of video games and a ping pong table. Most of the special perks are not that enticing to me. Just saying.

Part of that roofline is over a porch on the lakeside and there might be some overhang on the walkway side. I think that puts them in a a size to be a 2BR rather than a 3BR. I think a loft of some sort would have been nice to get a GV equivalent.

 

[wdrl]

For that building - it would be nice to have the community hall but there was this picture posted by Greg. Maybe the label just ended up over it and isn't indicative of the building itself but here it is again. A little strange that a pool requires a pool mechanical building that is approx half the size of the pool though!

Are you referring to the "Pool Mechanical Building FDC" label highlighted in the drawing? If so, the label is pointing toward an object below the building; it doesn't appear to have anything to do with the building itself.

When the plans for Copper Creek were first released, there was discussion that the pool would have its own quick service snack bar. I still think the building will be a snack bar, much like what Disney added to the Oasis Pool at the Polynesian Villas & Bungalows.

 

[DenLo]

Maybe the building is just a bar.

 

[Granny]

I think I've decided to add that to my signature line right next to our VWL Moose - if you don't mind?

Hey, I stole it from @wdrl so have at it! We Groupies are a sharing bunch after all.

Part of that roofline is over a porch on the lakeside and there might be some overhang on the walkway side. I think that puts them in a a size to be a 2BR rather than a 3BR. I think a loft of some sort would have been nice to get a GV equivalent.

Kathy...I agree. I guess they didn't want to go two story as they wanted to protect the VWL occupants' views.

Wait...who are those guys in the white coats guiding me to that padded cell?

Are you referring to the "Pool Mechanical Building FDC" label highlighted in the drawing? If so, the label is pointing toward an object below the building; it doesn't appear to have anything to do with the building itself.

When the plans for Copper Creek were first released, there was discussion that the pool would have its own quick service snack bar. I still think the building will be a snack bar, much like what Disney added to the Oasis Pool at the Polynesian Villas & Bungalows.

I think the large building by the beach is going to be a restaurant which many think will be CS. If so, it doesn't seem likely that they would put another CS in the same vicinity. Now if the main restaurant turns out to be a TS offering, then it makes sense. But something tells me that the rumor that the big building will be CS rings true.

Maybe the building is just a bar.

Denise...You could be right. That's a big bar, but then again us Groupies have been known to partake of an adult beverage from time to time so who knows?

 

[sleepydog25]

Hard to say, but given there may be bubbles in that thar' yonder pool, it may very well be a pool mechanical building. While the arrow does point away from said building, it's pointing to an FDC which I assume to mean fire department connection for the mechanical building. The footprint seems small to be much else except maybe a snack area. I just love speculating!!

 

[horselover]

Julie,

Thank you for the packing cubes tip. We ship our clothes ground delivery on UPS and they are waiting for us at the resort. My wife always puts the clothes into shopping bags inside the shipping box. This will stack so much better and probably help the box hold up better in shipping. Plus they are going to be handy when we do the laundry (we are studio dwellers), not mention the unpacking thing.

I bought a couple of sets online yesterday. 57 days and counting down for us.

Thanks very much sharing that info.

greg

Yay another convert! Glad I could help. Let me know how you like them after you've tried them. They made packing & unpacking so easy in New Zealand. We were moving every 2-3 days but packing was no biggie with the cubes. Each family member has their own color.

And for the record my money is still on Trout Pass being leveled. I hope not but give the size of the food & beverage building I'm not seeing the need for another bar so close.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

Are you referring to the "Pool Mechanical Building FDC" label highlighted in the drawing? If so, the label is pointing toward an object below the building; it doesn't appear to have anything to do with the building itself.

When the plans for Copper Creek were first released, there was discussion that the pool would have its own quick service snack bar. I still think the building will be a snack bar, much like what Disney added to the Oasis Pool at the Polynesian Villas & Bungalows.

Yes, but there doesn't seem to be any other building that would be the mechanical and that same fire connection has a line over to that building. If those are bubblers all over the pool then as Sleepy mentioned I guess it would take a pretty large building!

With the other restaurant building so close it would be extremely surprising to have another QS right there and I'm afraid I'm also suspicious that the building has a bar and that even Trout Pass will be going.

 

[Granny]

I agree Trout Pass will be going the way of the trees. [ Timmmm----berrrr! ]

As for the mechanical stuff for the bubbles...the old pool had bubbles without a large building, didn't it? Am I missing something? I think I'll keep my guess on that one to Community Hall.

 

[Starwind]

Part of that roofline is over a porch on the lakeside and there might be some overhang on the walkway side. I think that puts them in a a size to be a 2BR rather than a 3BR. I think a loft of some sort would have been nice to get a GV equivalent.

If you look on the pictures of the cabins-things that look onto what I am assuming is their front door (facing the exisitng villas, NOT the water), there is an opening that appears door-size, and then ABOVE the "doorway" there is a window. Not a small transom-size window, but a real window.

To me this suggests either a cathedral-type ceiling and the window is to let light in, or there is a loft or second floor of some kind.

A google search found me this photo where you can clearly see the "above" window and an idea of scale:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/R4pqa3G7zqY/maxresdefault.jpg

SW

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

If you look on the pictures of the cabins-things that look onto what I am assuming is their front door (facing the exisitng villas, NOT the water), there is an opening that appears door-size, and then ABOVE the "doorway" there is a window. Not a small transom-size window, but a real window.

To me this suggests either a cathedral-type ceiling and the window is to let light in, or there is a loft or second floor of some kind.

A google search found me this photo where you can clearly see the "above" window and an idea of scale:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/R4pqa3G7zqY/maxresdefault.jpg

SW

That does look promising!

 

[ottawagreg]

For that building - it would be nice to have the community hall but there was this picture posted by Greg. Maybe the label just ended up over it and isn't indicative of the building itself but here it is again. A little strange that a pool requires a pool mechanical building that is approx half the size of the pool though!

Good morning Groupies. I found a link somewhere on the world-wide web that took me to the RCID site where the permit drawings were posted. So, I downloaded the PDF version of the drawings. There are 38 sheets in total, and I would be happy to share them with anyone if you care to see them. I would say that they are not complete by any means. for example, there are NO detailed plans of any building. I wish there were, but sadly no that is not the case. It shows primarily civil drawings, enlarged views of the wetlands, details for water runoff, grading details, demolition plans, and more stuff like that. One interesting this about the drawings is that they designated which trees are to be removed and which ones are to stay. It does give a little sense of how many trees there will be when the project is completed.


In any case the primary purpose of the drawing where I grabbed the screen shots from, is a "utility plan" of the UG (underground) pipes. I don't know what the intended purpose of the building is. None of the buildings are clearly labeled, not even the Villas at Wilderness Lodge! I highlighted where I saw whatever description was given. However, I do think that the building is too large for a maintenance building for the pool, unless it is for the new annexation. Then perhaps it is about the right size. Another thought could be the they are "hiding" the maintenance works in the same structure as a drink stand, or another refreshment portal. The Poly has their Dole Whip. maybe we get Davey Crockett's moonshine still. Just saying.


Here is the drawing information deciphered as best as I can see. I do a lot of construction work and work with these type of drawings, and my background is process piping. Chemical, refinery, pharmaceutical facilities, and the like. So, while it may not be 100% correct, I would say that it is fairly accurate.


WM, is a water main. mostly 4" and 8" diameter.

POC, is a point of connection

FDC, is Fire Department Connection

FS, is Fire Service (I think)

SAN, is Sanitary Sewer

PVC, is PVC!


At the “top” of the building, notice that there are 1 ¼” pipes. Those are reducing pressure back flow preventers. They are check valves, and I saw them all over the place at OKW. Water supply to the clusters of buildings. High pressure coming in, reduces for the showers.


Also, right next to those check valves, the 8” san sewer is running away from the building


The circle with the “D” and labeled D-9 is an 18” drain basin with a solid cover on it. D-8 drains to it and then there is PVC taking water away to wetlands area D-10.


The rest of the stuff is Fire. One line has a 4” coming from the Water Main with a DDCA (double detector check valve) going to FS (fire service?). The other line is the FDC POC.


If you look a little lower on the drawing find the “hidden mickey”, that is a fire hydrant. It is supplied with an 8” water main.


I don’t know for certain what is happening there. But that is some high action for a community center. But who knows, anything can happen at Boulder Ridge methinks.

 

[Granny]

Greg...thanks for taking the time to educate us on deciphering some of the plans you grabbed. While I still don't understand everything, it does seem like a lot going on. Maybe the Community Hall will have a bathroomm/changing room with showers? It is fun to speculate about this, and my guess is that all my speculation will be way off the mark.