Non-Disney Online Games Virtual Family Kingdom Thread

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It took about 10 hours for things to spiral out of control for the game and cause a a battle of the boards. This whole inncident will leave a bad taste in my mouth for vfk and vfkff.
 
I would not say there is a battle of the boards. I know that we have not disrespected any individual or mod of another board. All that has been provided were tools to help individuals make a decision. If individuals choose to take that information and use it maliciously against individuals who provided it so be it.
 
For those of you who are interested, I have taken on a new project. (it will be part of the Wiki, or rather the wiki will be part of it)

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(yes I am aware there is a typing error in the heading ;))

Dude, that graphic looks awesome, seriously, great work as always!

Wow...it really is a VFK lovefest over on VFKFF...LOL...oh well...every game has its supporters and detractors...but what surprised me is how quick the moderators over there are to close a discussion when it starts to go negative for VFK...

My personal opinion is that the VFK people are not running any sort of scam or the like, nor are they just trying to get emails, phone numbers or whatnot to sell them later, LOL...I think they are trying to launch a game, but are just not experienced in the right way to go about it. They are probably feeling the financial crunch, have run out of money from the investors (theres a term for this type of investor, but I forget what it is...), and need to raise cash to continue...or to at least show they have the ability to raise cash. But they certainly aren't ready to actually start charging people to pay for the "premium services" when they havn't even tested them yet, LOL. Oh well...I need to get off this infernal contraption and get outside...it's to nice to spend wasting it on disboards! (wait, did i actually say that??? Moderator! Lock this post!! j/k!!!)

I agree with this Ned 100%. I know things get distorted quick ROFL. I never said they were crooks, they are NOT ready to be open yet is all. They made some bad decisions, taking CC#'s without a secure protocol in place is simply bad business practice.

Well everyone you better trust who ever family you are entered into. To be added to a family you have to give the head person your login and password.

Ok I know they expect it to be all "family" but lets be realistic here. I think this is insane. We are told to guard our info and never give it out. To me this also means that VFK assumes you are communicating with people outside the game. I do not think this is good at all.....

that is uh... hahaha thats a bad precedent is all I have to say!

It took about 10 hours for things to spiral out of control for the game and cause a a battle of the boards. This whole inncident will leave a bad taste in my mouth for vfk and vfkff.

heh, I didnt see any battle :) Sometimes its better to be above it and not go looking ;)

if anyone is wondering ROFL I do live near salem, next town over actually ROFL
 
Look,
This game is similar to VMK. We will be getting some great new features that will further it to be closer to VMK. What did we all do when VMK was closing? Say "I would pay to play". Now when we get a site close to VMK, and we are offered to get new features by paying, we are screaming at them. They are not saying we must pay to play,in fact, it is close to the features VMK had without paying. We are getting some NICE features, after-hour playing time, trading rooms. We begged for that on VMK, and we never got that. Now if you like this game, then pay the extra to get a few nice features. If you don't, don't pay for it. Simple as that, the free version is alot nicer than the free versions of many other pay-to-play games.

Just my two cents,
Dude

I TOTALLY agree! I personally wouldn't pay the $50, even tho i'm looking forward 2 its grand opening on the 4th, but you're right, the free version has all the options vmk, and the ideal virtual game have!

While I understand that many of you are upset at the flaming you received when trying to warn others, the all-too-sudden pay to play option and the questionable means vfk uses to execute those payments, look on the bright side! There's always the FREE MEMBERSHIP route! (Which I myself am going to take.) I may not get all the extras, (which in my opinion seem a bit unnecessary), but I'll still get to play vfk!

All I'm saying is, I see a lot of negative and not much of the positive. While I believe in some necessary criticism, i feel much more strongly that the boards should have some semblance of balance.

Btw... whatever happened to that map? Did it ever come out? And if so, pic plz? ;)
 

Good Morning!

As I stated before I too am fine with the free option. After a long restful sleep, here are my thoughts. A lot of this "stress" and "worry" could be eliminated if there was an extension of the deadline and an option to pay by bank or post office money order. I did just send this idea in via contact us.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Okay, I have decided this site is not a scam, we don't have enough info to
prove that. They may have very poor security and new experience to making
online games and they aren't very professional at it yet, but I think they're at
least trying. I don't think the money is worth it at all and I don't trust them
with that kind of information yet either so I won't be buying it and I'll let the
people who want to buy it, buy it. :)
 
Okay, I have decided this site is not a scam, we don't have enough info to
prove that. They may have very poor security and new experience to making
online games and they aren't very professional at it yet, but I think they're at
least trying. I don't think the money is worth it at all and I don't trust them
with that kind of information yet either so I won't be buying it and I'll let the
people who want to buy it, buy it. :)

Well said shark. If anyone does want to buy in, just call them up like it says on their website and eliminate the not encrypted link connection between your computer and their system.

facts often get distorted, I said their payment system is not encrypted I didnt call them thieves. I have called them many other things though :rotfl:

if anyone would like to see an easy example of what I am talking about. Go to www.waltdisneyworld.com

not encrypted

click login

BANG, lock shows up. encrypted.

try it on VFK and it stays unencrypted. All information is transmitted in clear text.

Bad practice for any information you consider valuable, like... I dunno a credit card #? :rotfl:

again, call them up and do it, and the problem is solved.
 
Someone on another board found anouther way around the lack of encryption. They used a pre-paid credit card. No one can steal any money from it if it has no money on it anymore, right? While I think that person is crazy for buying into this Founders junk, I think that was a pretty good idea to use a pre-paid card.
 
it was encrypted see I said it was next town over but not WITCH way ROFL

Three years since I moved out of the Boston area....

It is either a town with a woman's name...or one that has a rhyme that says "city of sin...."

:rotfl:
 
Someone on another board found anouther way around the lack of encryption. They used a pre-paid credit card. No one can steal any money from it if it has no money on it anymore, right? While I think that person is crazy for buying into this Founders junk, I think that was a pretty good idea to use a pre-paid card.

yes that is indeed a great method :thumbsup2

Three years since I moved out of the Boston area....

It is either a town with a woman's name...or one that has a rhyme that says "city of sin...."

:rotfl:

ZOMG you decrypted meh! :rotfl:
 
Did they ever release the Austrailian outback that was supposed to be released on June 20? It is still on their website as coming on that date...
 
Did they ever release the Austrailian outback that was supposed to be released on June 20? It is still on their website as coming on that date...

Check the map. Oh, wait..... :upsidedow

Nope, no Australian Outback. Or a map to look for it on.
 
All I care about here are the kids involved. Adults can dump money into VFK until their hair turns blue- they're all smart enough to see all the signs and make an informed decision. Kids aren't as well-equipped to deal with the situation, and VFK completely took advantage of them. I came across (and stayed with) VMK not because of the Disney-factor, but because it was an amazing kid's game. I haven't found a game this perfect for tweens since. VFK made promises they couldn't keep and created an unsafe environment. That's not okay.

Because they were offered employment to help pay to support their family through a company that they decided would provide them with a paycheck and a respectable job. Perhaps?

Wow. I feel that you are attacking the wrong people. Those VMK staff that took work within VFK did not give the game their seal of approval did they? I never received a notice of such. They took a job. They found someone to give them a paycheck through what they believe to be respectable work. When Ben & Jerry's started, they got a deep freezer by promising free ice cream for life of the company to someone who had the freezer they needed since they had no cash to pay for it. They believed in their hearts that they would be offering free ice cream for a few months. Today, that person who agreed to the deal STILL gets free ice cream. He believed in 2 guys who were trying to get a business going - and got an amazing deal! I REALLY think it is wrong to judge anyone who takes a job with a start-up company.

No, that's not what I'm saying at all. There's nothing wrong with taking a chance on a startup. There are lots of successful games right now that were started by a bunch of dudes, just like VFK. Dizzywood is in the same situation as VFK right now. Club Penguin was started by some Canadian guys and -like Ben and Jerrys- grew more than they ever could have imagined. There's a difference between these games though. Because they're targeted at kids and they understand skepticism that comes with an internet startup, Dizzywood has gone out of their way to show that they're serious about safety. They had an outside agency come into their game and test it to ensure that it's an ok place for kids to be. It passed without question. Club Penguin always kept safety as a top priority, and it's one of the reasons why the game is so successful. Both games are (and have always been) compliant with laws pertaining to child protection.

VMK moderators were amazing, and I don't see the same level of awesome in the VFK mods. Like I said before, they might just be reading from a different script now and play out different roles in VFK. I can't fault anyone for waiting it out to see what the game is like before making a decision- potential employees included. It's a different story once they got into the game, and saw that they couldn't do anything. The main job of a moderator is to keep kids safe. If you can't do that- why are you there in the first place? If you were a surgeon or an air traffic controller, would you accept a job where you didn't have any of the tools you needed to do the job right? I know that I would be out of that place faster than you can say Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, but I probably wouldn't have joined in the first place. I would never join an organization that I didn't fully support, so yes, in a way they did give their seal of approval for the game by joining it and saying that they were the same people that kept VMK safe and fun for all.

I seriously doubt that VFK was the only opportunity available to these moderators. As was described in their boss's blog, most had been doing this type of work for a while, and were the best group he (Sulake manager) had ever seen under one (virtual) roof. There are so many virtual worlds out there, and other choices for employment. There are a few big agencies that would snap them up in a minute, and I'm sure any game that directly hires their moderators would be interested as well. They were the best of the best, and I'm sorry to say that their talents aren't being used fully if they really are still with the game.

I certainly support small businesses, but they have to go the extra mile to show that they're serious about it. Dizzywood has, Club Penguin has, VFK has not. I can haz integrity??

edit: thanks Alice- totally missed your reply before I posted, but thanks for the confirmation (in a much more succinct manner than I managed!)
 
Dude, that graphic looks awesome, seriously, great work as always!
Thanks!

For those interested, the site should be opened tomorrow, maybe mid-day. Depends on how much more work I put into it tonight. I still need to fix that "Bring you the dirt" error tonight. Then finish adding some stuff. And re-name the wiki.
 
...If you were a surgeon or an air traffic controller, would you accept a job where you didn't have any of the tools you needed to do the job right?
Would I accept it in the beginning? Not if I knew that going in.

Would I stay after I found out? Maybe. If I cared enough about the customers to want to stay to try to protect them the best I could. Maybe, just maybe, my knowledge and experience could help make a difference.
 
I seriously doubt that VFK was the only opportunity available to these moderators. As was described in their boss's blog, most had been doing this type of work for a while, and were the best group he (Sulake manager) had ever seen under one (virtual) roof.

Sorry to go off topic, but I was just reading the entry you linked to in your post and in the comments section, I saw a lot of familiar names who made comments within a week of that posting. How did everyone hear about that blog? I didn't know it existed until today.
 
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