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We travelled to Orlando for a three week holiday at Christmas. Two weeks Orlando and one week Fort Myers, to get married on the beach. My partner Julie, her child Ailsa,My children Holly Chloe, and Savannah, and me Geoff. It was to be very special to my children, as it was their first return to Disney after their Mother had suddenly died just days after returning from a fantastic visit in Jan 2002. I e mailed Virgin a couple of months before to let them know of our circumstances.
The problems were that the house they put us in was old,the patio doors would not work properly, the washing machine put fluff all over our clothes,and the pool heat cut out, and when we complained, we were told to give them time to sort it out. Now, due to what had gone on previously we were in a rather delicate frame of mind and wrongly let them push us in to waiting for the repairs to be done. Some were some weren't. I paid for the pool heating in advance as requested as it was December and the kids love swimming,but after two days the pool heating stopped working ,when I told them they said it was in their small print that if the outside temp dropped below 44 f, the heater cut out, now I'd paid just over $200 for nothing. There were other things like the alarm contact fell off the patio doors and so we couldn't set the alarm till it was glued back on and the mesh door leading to the pool was left open a couple of times probably by the pool maintenance. The lock for the patio doors was a piece of wood propping it shut.
The plane we flew back on was an old 747 200 and was falling to bits. it was delayed through mechanical problems for setting off and when we landed we couldn't go near the main building because one of the engines wouldn't shut down for a while, quite a few of the tellys were broken, the seat in front of Julie wouldn't go upright.
I complained to Virgin on return and they said they investigated our problem and eventually gave us £200 in Virgin vouchers. I told them this wasn't good enough and I was looking for at least £500 cash,they said they would convert the vouchers to cash but this was their final offer. This is £200 cash back from a £5500 holiday package. Julie, now my wife has been put off Virgin . I personally think that they have cut back their costs and are running on almost empty as far as service goes.
The travel agent I booked it through has ceased trading,
Why don't Virgin take their complaints seroiusly enough?
how can I get what I deserve?
Thanks for listening,
Geoff.
 
Hi

Sorry to hear about you problems - hope it didn't spoil your trip too much.

Having travelled with Virgin on a number of ocassions, and having 'complaints' twice, I certainly think their generosity in resolving the issue is not what it was a few years ago.

The first complaint I had was with Virgin Sun (no longer operating). We were given the wrong check in time for our return flight and was 2 hours too early for check-in (However, it was the first time we have ever been at the front of the queue!). I wrote complaining (not too strongly) that it had wasted time on our last day. Shortly after, I received a voucher for 10% off any Virgin Holiday anywhere in the world.

The last time was on a trip to Florida. The villa we had been allocated was fine, but they were building a new house at the back. The noise was unbearable. They started with power tools about 6.am. After 2 days, I complained to the Vrigin rep who arranged to move us. The new villa was much better, but we did waste a day moving etc. On my return - after 2 complain letters, I received £20 vouchers per person.

I do belive that Virgin do try to maintain high standards with their properties etc. In your case, this seems to have fallen a long way short. I don't know if you have been dealing just with Virign Customer Service, but you could try going higher.

Sorry, I've nothing more constructive to add, but don't give up yet!


Maxine:D
 
Sorry to hear about your troubles. I can relate to your frustration with Virgin as I have been there as well.

I booked my wedding with them (to Florida) and as you can imagine we pulled out all the stops and booked the best we could afford at the time. We booked Virgin as they were always considered "THE BEST" whereas previously we had used charters. As we were also buying our first home we couldnt afford the dream Disney wedding, but we were happy with the package Virgin put together for us. Pre-trip they were fantastic, liasing with us about all the wedding bits n bobs. The trouble only started when we started our journey.

I had booked two surprises on the plane, firstly champagne for all of us with a special announcment to be done by the pilot and second a flight deck visit for my DH (this was pre 9/11). They ruined the announcement, not using the words I had requested and it was done by the cabin crew not the pilot. Then the snottiest old witch of a stewardess came and told my DH that "Flight Deck visits were just for kids, not for adults" and then stormed off. It was awful and as I was a bit younger and not so confident then I was too shy to mention it. Some other stuf happened as well but I would be here forever!

Then when we landed they went and lost my wedding dress! They had put it in upper class and it had got mixed up with someone elses who had gone off with mine. What was worse, was that they showed NO interest in helping us find it. We managed to find it ourselves in the end (another very long story)!! Anyway as things progressed nothing improved, we had one hotel room with single beds (bit like a bad carry on film!), the wedding planner gave us wrong directions to get the wedding licence and we wasted nearly a day sorting that...and it went on and on!

On our return I composed an 8 page letter of complaint to Virgin Holidays. I then had to do the same for Virgin Atlantic (to cover the complaints about the aircraft) and it took months and months to sort out. In the end I wrote to Richard Branson himself (still have the addy if you want ;) )and eventually recieved a personal apology from him, £100 in Virgin Atlantic vouchers each and 15% off our next booking (on top of any other discount). Still not brilliant for a holiday that cost over £5k but it was an apology I wanted, more than any financial recompense. In the end, as it was the days when Travel agents were giving big discounts I managed to book our next Virgin holiday for less than £1000 when I used all the "freebies" :D.

My tips are PERSERVERE. Send photographic evidence and try to talk to the senior customer service manager or Mr B himself. Dont be fobbed off, dont accept their first "offer", state what YOU feel is sufficient compensation. Dont forget that if the villa you were given doesnt match the brochure description there are legal implications as well. Good luck, and I hope you get it sorted!

Allie
 
Tell them what it is you want as compensation
Tell them you are in contact with trading standards
Give them concrete timescales (ie they have 14 days to reply etc)

That way they have to respond to you within those timescales and I promise you that they will not argue with trading standards.
 

Hi,
I once had a complaint with a holiday company and did the following.
Told the onsite rep of our complaint... ( too late for you now I realise )
When I got home I wrote to the company detailing my complaint.
They sent me a "standard" reply basicaly saying too bad.
I then wrote to ABTA who agreed with the holiday company..I wasn't really surprised as they seem to be just a lap dog of the big operators.
I then wrote to the Trading Standards who upheld my complaint and made the company change the brochure the following year but still I got no compensation.
So finally I made a claim against them in the small claims court and then they actually made an out of court offer which was about double what I would have accepted at the start so my persistance paid off.
Keep writing to Virgin spelling out exactly what you expect and if you have the time and determination I would recommend following the above example.

Mick.

:smooth:
 
Thanks for those replies, It seems you have to know how to complain if you're going to get a fair deal from companies that talk the talk. I will persue the trading standards route, as we were left with the impression that we would be able to use the swimming pool when the heating kicked in. We made them aware of the faulty washing machine, they didn't know what to do,one of the cleaners told us to use a lint brush. The patio doors couldn't be fixed as they didn't fit the doorway properly and therefore couldn't be secured properly.
 












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