Vegan dining review from my week at WDW

sixxmum

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What follows is my dining review from January 6th through 11th. Diners included my DH (omnivore), Me (strict vegan due to medical issues), DS (vegetarian), DD (vegetarian), DS3, DS4, and DD2 (omnivores).

Let me begin by saying that, with help from this board, I had contacted Disney Dining and been sent an email that said all chefs in each of our reservation restaurants would be expecting us. They asked us to just remind the host/hostess at the door and a chef would come out to speak with us and work out something for us. We made all of our reservations for after the lunch rush so as to not inconvenience the staff more than we needed to. So, off we went with high expectations.

Our first stop was at Marrakesh. They told us they had no record of any special dining needs. The waiter informed me that they had only vegetable couscous but that it was made in a meat broth. I asked to see the chef (twice) and he eventually brought him out. The chef was heard loudly complaining about being asked to talk to us and then was visibly angry with us. He told me that he had nothing except plain white rice, or we could wait at least half an hour for him to make couscous (but made it clear that he did not want to). Because he was upset, I ended up just ordering a dinner salad. The waiter kindly brought me some tabbouleh and olives from Tangerine Cafe next door. DS and DD (the vegetarians) ended up eating the vegetable couscous even though it had meat broth in it, because they were too upset by what had happened to ask for anything else.

At Liberty Tree Tavern they did not have a note of our needs, but things were somewhat better, as there was one item on the menu we could order. However, the Chef declined to come and speak with us, and just told the waiter to tell me I could order the tofu and noodle dish and that was all. They also indicated that they had no veggie burger (which we had been told that all the sit down restaurants should have available). DD and DS ordered a chicken pasta dish without the pasta. I got the tofu and noodle dish, which was fine.

The next reservation was Yak and Yeti. Again the special needs were not noted on the reservation sheet. This time, the chef did come and speak with us, though he had little to recommend besides a salad or steamed vegetables (which is what I got). DS got the asian chicken salad (without the chicken). DD and I shared steamed veggies and a side salad. It was fine, though certainly nothing to write home about.

The following evening we went to Boma. This was far and away our best experience. Our dietary needs were noted on the reservation and the waiter brought Chef TJ right out. He walked us through the line, carefully explaining everything. He then told us to sample slowly. After a few minutes he arrived with a vegan soup for the three of us, and some vegan hummus. A bit later, he brought me altered versions of two of the salads (the hearts of palm and the radish and carrot) from the line that he had made vegan. I was almost full by then, when he arrived with an amazing entree (so beautiful that I took pictures) with tofu, veggies, rice noodles, fried mushrooms, pineapple, etc. The three of us all ate some and I had leftovers for dinner the next night! Just as we were about to pop, he dropped by and said that he would be out shortly with a vegan dessert. It was the fried oreo tower with pineapple and chocolate sauce. We were too full to really do it justice, but it was amazing. I was so impressed that I couldn't thank him enough. Next trip we will certainly go back to Boma!

The next day we had lunch at 50s Primetime. I was excited because I had heard that the stuffed pepper was fabulous and vegan. Again, the needs were not noted on the reservation. I asked the waiter, and he told me that the only thing they had that was vegetarian was the stuffed pepper, but he wasn't sure if it was vegan. He left to get the chef, but then came back and noted that it had whey in it, so they would just make it with white rice instead. I got a tofutti and silk milkshake (great!) and waited. The pepper arrived and it was a disappointment. The rice was undercooked and when I cut the pepper, water filled the bottom of my plate. So, everything was very watery and not seasoned at all. I pretty much just pushed it around. The waiter asked if it was ok and I noted that it was quite watery. He said "oh" and removed the plate and no more was said about it.

The final meal we had reservations for was at Crystal Palace. The needs were not noted on the reservation there either. After I asked the server, she brought out a chef. He pointed out the salad, couscous, bread, and steamed vegetables, noted that that "should be enough" and then left.

We had some good vegan snacks including pretzels and fries in the parks throughout the trip.

All in all, I would say that Disney is decent if you are a vegetarian who is willing to flex a bit on chicken broth in things (or just don't ask). If you have a dairy/egg allergy, it is tough, but as long as you like meat, you should still be ok there. If you are a strict vegan, it is not easy and the odds of getting a really good meal are slim.

I hope this helps someone a bit, as I know that information about vegan dining can be hard to come by!
 
Interesting - as a veggie I have always said 'I don't know what vegans would do at WDW!'

Sadly, your experiences pretty common, in all the years I have been going to WDW. It has gotten somewhat better, but not much. Missing requests, cranky chefs, lacklustre food, uninformed wait staff have all been the norm. Sometimes it is better than others.

I love the servers who offer up chicken or fish dishes when asked for veggie suggestions. :scared:

I do find Marrakesh odd though - I get very ill from meat and have had the veggie coucous there before with no issues. It is just mildly seasoned couscous and vegetables - no broth. I wonder if they changed it?
 
i have to say that my experiences (as a lactose intolerant veggie) at wdw have been nearly the opposite of yours! i'm so sorry you had such a difficult time!

in most cases they knew that i needed to see the chef but i would just remind them if they didn't mention it when we were seated. i never had difficulty seeing the chef and they were always very receptive to my needs. sometimes the food was amazing (brown derby has always been particularly attentive although nothing will ever beat victoria and alberts) and sometimes lack luster (especially at chef mickeys) but all in all i've been assured that i have something to eat that does not make me sick. in my world, that is a huge plus!

i'm not trying to downplay your experience, just explaining why i'm so surprised! i am leaving for wdw on friday so i will see if maybe things have gone downhill since my last visit in '06. i hope not! :(
 
Hey y'all,

I'm a vegan who has been to WDW a few times, and actually am holding an AP for this year. A friend who frequents these boards pointed me to this thread because she & I were recently at Marrakesh and had a similarly bad experience! Actually, though, it is possibly to eat very well at WDW as a vegan. I'm very happy to share what I've learned, in case it's of some use to anyone else. Apologies for the long post, in advance :-)...

First of all, sounds like sixxmum did everything right--call ahead, make sure it says vegan on the reservation (they don't have a field for it on their computers, and will have to put it under "Other" or "Comments"). Most of the Dis-operated restaurants will bend over backwards for you, or at least will explain what you can and can't eat. The EPCOT World Showcase restaurants, as I understand it, are different because they are run by the host pavilions. So they will vary in terms of how accommodating they will be. I had a great vegan meal once at Chefs de France. Marrakesh sounds like it SHOULD be veggie-friendly, but I also found the staff/chef to be very brusque and rude despite the advance notice. I was told there is BUTTER (but no meat broth) in the couscous. I didn't particularly understand why it should be difficult to make a batch of couscous without butter, but the chef made it very clear that my request was an inconvenience. "Just tell me what you want," he said. I asked for some hummus and tabbouleh on a salad. What I got was five extra-large scoops of hummus (who can eat five scoops of hummus?), no salad, and a large plate of tabbouleh that was inedible because the couscous was raw. I tried to ask the waiter about the raw couscous, and he replied with a big grin, "Yep! Raw! So you can eat it. No butter!" I think language barrier may have contributed. Regardless, I won't be going back there. A better bet is to order the side dishes from Tangierine Cafe, at $2 each last time I was there. Just skip the lentil salad, which has eggs. You can have a feast for $6, and you can listen to Mo'Rockin'!

I've had GREAT experiences at Boma (similar to yours), as well as at Spoodles on the Boardwalk. I will definitely be returning there--last time, the chef whipped up some seasonal veggies and several interesting dishes and appetizers for me and my vegan sis. They even checked to make sure that we could eat the bread!

Had a vegan pumpkin risotto with cranberry sauce at Coral Reef while watching the fishies swim by.

If you're feeling wealthy, Jiko at the AK lodge is also a great place to dine.

The Sci-Fi Drive-In at Studios has a seared mango tofu on the menu that is vegan except for honey, which the chef is usually happy to omit for you. They will even make you a tofutti shake! It's a better bet than 50's Prime Time. The mango tofu is on the regular menu--just be sure to put vegan on your res and the chef is likely to come out and see what you'd like.

There are a lot of counter service options, too. I actually was given contact information for the people who supervise food for all the different parks, and they were amazingly nice. They sent me allergy/special request info about each of the parks, and made some dining suggestions. At most of the counter service places, you can ask to see an ingredients book. Just go right up to the front counter, off to the side, and wait politely for a CM to notice you and have a moment to chat. Usually, they're very glad to accommodate. They should have the binder right up front for you to look through.

Sunshine Seasons Food Fair at EPCOT's Land Pavilion has a lot of vegan eats in the grab-and-go case, including lentil salad, fruit, couscous, hummus, tabbouleh (cooked and all ;-)...), cucumber and tomato salad, etc. The ingredients are printed on each package. If you aren't picky about shared cooking surfaces (which I am), they will make you several things to order there as well. Avoid going right at lunchtime to beat the big crowds--it's a great place for a midmorning or midafternoon snack.

At the MK, Cosmic Ray's will make a veggie burger (vegan) in the convection oven on a gluten-free bun (made by ENER-G) that is also vegan. Be prepared to wait 10-15 minutes for this. You might want to call ahead that morning to make sure they have the GF rolls on hand. They also tend to get VERY busy at mealtimes.

As far as park snacks go, I was told that the butter flavor in the popcorn is artificial and vegan! The Itzakadoozie ice pop is vegan (and deliciously chemical-laden) as well. In EPCOT, I never miss the rainbow Kaki-Gori at the Japan pavilion. Some places have a dedicated fryolator for cooking French Fries, which are in that case usually vegan unless it is McDonald's brand instead of generic park fries. Just make sure you ask.

And check your hotel's food court--many have started carrying Silk soymilk and also keep rice milk on hand.

So there are lots of yummy options! Never be afraid to contact Disney in advance and let them know what you need, and also give feedback about your experiences. My Marrakesh experience was bad enough that I might actually complain about it, and yours sounds horrific! On my next trip, I think I'm going to try San Angel Inn, which has a (short) veggie menu and apparently at least a salad that can be adapted as vegan. Otherwise, I think I will stick to Disney-operated places.

Happy eating :-)
 

Tofuforbrains,

Is there any way I could contact you to get that food service supervisor contact information for each park? I spoke to two people who were food service directors (overall) but maybe getting the information for individual parks would be better for next trip.

I wrote the directors that I spoke to after the first few restaurants (before Boma) with an update of the issues we were having, but I haven't heard anything yet.

I appreciate the advice!
 
Yes--sure! I actually tried to PM you but apparently my post count isn't high enough yet. Classic n00b error...didn't read FAQ...:)

I am not sure it would be kosher to post it here though. Let me read more about PMs and try to figure it out? Or I would be happy to backchannel you over email. I was also interested in getting the info for your contact because I would like to relay my own experiences at Marrakesh.

Ohh, I forgot to add something else important. Divvies makes vegan chocolate chip cookies! They are available on Main Street in the bakery, in lots of restaurants and resort food courts, and probably a bunch of other places. They make other snacks that are nearly vegan except for things like confectioner's glaze (in jellybeans, for instance). Gots to have dessert!
 
Mmmm! I was in that bakery and didn't even think to look. I'll try to figure out the PMs too :)
 
Looking around boards for veggie dining options...

The couscous thing is killing me here. Couscous. Water. Boil water. Dump couscous in. Wait a few minutes. Done.

Why would they even bother with meat stock? Water is too hard for them?

I'm veggie and have never noticed a taste difference using butter in couscous...

ugh.


Glad for the non-Marrakesh info, though! :)
 
I'm gluten intolerant and found Marrakesh to be the worst at meeting needs. Spoodles was hands down the best - although the menu wasn't condusive to gluten free, they went out of their way for it. California Grill was good, Flying Fish less good, but acceptable. Never had a chef come out (never asked).
 
I'm gluten intolerant and found Marrakesh to be the worst at meeting needs. Spoodles was hands down the best - although the menu wasn't condusive to gluten free, they went out of their way for it. California Grill was good, Flying Fish less good, but acceptable. Never had a chef come out (never asked).
 
With all due respect to Vegans it is difficult for a kitchen to adapt to that kind of change. Certain kitchens are better equipped and trained to do so. Obviously Jiko is one of these. I think it was inexcusable for Disney Dining to tell your needs were noted on your reservation and they were not. This, howver is not the fault of the restaurant and it is a lot to ask a Chef to step out and talk to a customer especially at Disney because they are so busy almost all of the time. I think it was very considerate of the OP to book reservations outside of the normal busy times. However, I think it is a lot to ask some of these restaurants to cook vegan as it is not easy to do and maintain quality. Vegetarian is a different story as there are a lot of options that make cooking easier. It is almost like expecting a Vegan restaurant to cook you a Steak. That is not what they do. This post is by no means a slam on Vegans it is your choice to eat how you wish but I think it can be a lot to ask any restaurant to adapt to your vegan needs.

B.
 
it is a lot to ask a Chef to step out and talk to a customer especially at Disney because they are so busy almost all of the time.

I beg to differ. Disney themselves urges the guest to request this. I have met many wonderful chefs over the years.

I have also had many situations where I requested that a chef NOT come speak to me, because I know the restaurant and I know the menu, and am 'safe' with their menu. Yet often the chef insists on coming out anyways.

Most see it as an enjoyable challenge as it allows them to practice their skills rather than just repeatedly making the same mundane items. I always ask what they have in the kitchen, so that when they ask me what I would like, I can make a reasonable request.
 
I have also had many situations where I requested that a chef NOT come speak to me, because I know the restaurant and I know the menu, and am 'safe' with their menu. Yet often the chef insists on coming out anyways.

Most see it as an enjoyable challenge as it allows them to practice their skills rather than just repeatedly making the same mundane items. I always ask what they have in the kitchen, so that when they ask me what I would like, I can make a reasonable request.

So you go to a restaurant and tell the wait staff "please don't have the chef come to my table" I am not really sure how that works. :confused3 Maybe you eat at certain resturants so often that the Chef knows you and wants to come and say Hi. Other than that this does not make much sense to me.

I think a chef enjoys making new dishes like you said but again I really don't see them at Disney or any other Resturant for that matter, making what ever you want from what they have in the Kitchen. They have a menu for a reason. Again, unless you frequent the restaurant so often that you are well known by both the Chef and the FOTH. Also mosts Chefs at most restaurants are not cooking, they are expediting and running the kitchen so any cooking duties would be handed off to someone else.

B.
 
I can only talk to my many years of experience.

The server often acknowledges that they see that there is a special dietary need; I simply advise them 'no need to have someone come by, I know what to order'. There is nothing more to it than that

I can assure you that many of the chefs at WDW relish the idea of making a special item, even when not requested. They enjoy the opportunity to be somewhat creative with the ingredients which they have available. Having trained in the kitchen, I am very sensitive to what they do have and can create, and often they go far and above. And yes, you may be surprised how many will create a dish personally, and not pass it off to someone on the line. It is a matter of pride for many of them.
 
Most see it as an enjoyable challenge as it allows them to practice their skills rather than just repeatedly making the same mundane items. I always ask what they have in the kitchen, so that when they ask me what I would like, I can make a reasonable request.

:rotfl2: Do you KNOW any chefs? I do and believe me they do not enjoy coming out to chat - that is why they chose to be chefs- in the back in the kitchen. And yes they love coming up with new things but not when they are trying to get 100 dinners out in the next 20 minutes.

Can you imagine if even just 10% of disney patrons requested to see the chef? Imagine how much longer a meal would take and how backed up they would get?

However I think Disney was way wrong in leading you to believe they had contacted restaurants when in fact they had not.
Here are some suggestions
http://www.allearsnet.com/din/veg_strat.htm
The biggie seems to be calling the restaurant itself directly. You will quickly get a feel if they are taking your concerns seriously.
 
Yes, I do know many in fact, both at WDW and outside of WDW. And WDW makes it a practice to have chefs come out when there is an indication of food allergies or special needs on the reservation.

The suggestion on Allears to call the restaurant is actually not very effective - it is more difficult to reach someone that way.

I'm bowing out of what is a ridiculous conversation.
 
I'm bowing out of what is a ridiculous conversation.

agreed.

Ooops can't keep my mouth shut. I did want to add though that I think every single table service restaurant should have at least one vegan option. (beyond a salad)
 
Java,

I agree about calling the restaurants. I just wasn't having luck doing that (getting messages and no return calls) so I went with contacting dining services instead.

I don't typically go into restaurants and ask for the chef. It was the Disney people who suggested that I do that. If the servers could tell me, with certainty, what items are vegan, I could skip the chef all together. Or if the menus all had one item marked "vegan" (and really, vegan cooking is harder, but not *that much* harder than vegetarian... as someone who does both regularly) then I wouldn't need help from anyone at all.

This isn't always an issue of choice. I became vegetarian by choice, but vegan due to serious medical issues. Accidentally eating dairy and eggs can be very bad for me, and I can't really just go with servers saying "I don't think the stuffed peper has any dairy in it" (when in fact, it did, and if I hadn't asked him to find out, I would have not known until I got ill).

Outside of Disney World, I don't really expect restaurants to adjust to my dining needs. I just don't go if I don't know what I can order. But, in Disney, where you are somewhat captive to the restaurants available (and we only eat 1 meal a day in the park for that reason), it's hard to just decide to go to the "vegan friendly" restaurant when there aren't any in some parks.
 
Six I wanted to also thank you for your review. I have a vegan brother headed to Disney with his family for the first time. And I am trying to find some good options for them. And you have definately crossed a few off the list!
 
Yes, I do know many in fact, both at WDW and outside of WDW. And WDW makes it a practice to have chefs come out when there is an indication of food allergies or special needs on the reservation.

The suggestion on Allears to call the restaurant is actually not very effective - it is more difficult to reach someone that way.

I'm bowing out of what is a ridiculous conversation.

That is a bunch of bunk. There is no way Chefs have the time to come out and talk to individual diners about allergies etc. Why should they step out of the kitchen to figure out you have an allergy to x ingredient. The FOTH can provide them with that information. You say you have trained in kitchens but I would be very interested to know what kitchens those are. I have worked the kitchens of some of the finest restaurants in America and the Chef will very rarely if ever leave the kitchen unless it is a very special customer. That is not to say that special requests or dietary restrictions are not taken in to account but there is no way a Chef is going to come out of the kitchen and say. "What can I cook for you tonight" unless you are a regular meaning at least 1-2 times per week customer. They just don't have the time or energy to do so.

Staying in the ridiculous conversation. :)

B.
 





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