Vault Disney Closing

Another Voice - Thanks for the insightful (and frightening) look at the dealings.

I think it's kinda silly having their psuedo-commercials as well.

I've wondered what the benefits of marketing the Disney Channel made movies. I mean, sure they're done on the cheap, but the amount of money for print ads & billboards? How are they returning the revenue, aside from forcing the cable companies to pay for them?
 
Not referring to the "trash" or "refuse" part of the definition, but more toward the "unwanted (by me, anyway ) material".
But a poor choice of terms, for which I apologize.
Only good thing is that I have probably already seen each and every film/show on Vault Disney at least once, so I'll have my memories. But I do feel sorry for all the folks who'll probably never see these fine shows and films.
 
Thanks for the retraction Uncle, though it was not necessay, the bad tone was totally my fault. I seem to have a problem going from light to heavy conversation. Well, 'm going to WDW today so perhaps I'll have some fresh stuff to say next week.

PG, I am well aware of your ability to guard your territory & back your opinion, it is generally my goal not to be on the wrong end of those comments from you or my other friends here on the DIS...
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Enjoy your trip!! Hope you'll have some reports for us over on the restaurant board.
 

Thanks for the insight AV. I forgot about that battle with the cable companies. No doubt that could come back to bite em down the line.

Brutal...
Getting poor ratings with an original program exposes you to blame, getting poor ratings with a copy-cat program shields you from risk of making a decision.

And unfortunately, if you're surounded by animatronic suits, there's a twisted to logic there.
 
Perhaps we should post what we would do if I were in charge of programming at Disney?
 
I'm not sure I'd change much.

As far as the live action stuff goes, I like the general theme of what they're going. I don't like every Zoog show and movie they've put out but, overall I think they've got the right foundation in place. Disney just needs to be sure they've got the best writters and actors available. Then push for creative family based shows. It's the same game plan, just always striving for better execution.

Surprisingly, the area that could use the most work is animation. I deffinitely enjoy the occasional episode of SpongeBob on that other network ;) so the addition of something humorous along those lines might be nice. You'd think Disney could manage that one wouldn't you? I mean, can you imagine how many SpongeBobs and CatDogs you could sell in the parks if they were Disney characters? Heck I'd buy a SpongBob myself.

Which leaves us with the overnight hours. Where what you've got is an adult audience plain and simple. And re-running episodes of "Sister, Sister" and "The Famous Jet Jackson" isn't gonna do it for you. At 3:00AM you're only gonna draw so many viewers anyway, so I'd look at the list of shows already in-house and throw up whatever appealed most to the late night crowd. In this case the choice is either "Lizzie Maguire" and assorted shows or the old classics. I'm goin' the old classics which are a hit with at least a small % of the already very small % of adults who happen to be up and watching tv at 3:00 in the morning.

Now of course, in the big picture, what Disney does with its overnight schedule for the Disney Channel is pretty insignificant. And even though I did enjoy the Vault I wouldn't mind it being eliminated if I could just see some logic in it. But I can't. There's no apparent cost savings and, undoubtedly, there'll be no help in the ratings. In fact, if I had to guess I'd say they're actually more likely to see a drop in overnight numbers. So I just don't see this one yet.

Big deal? Not at all. Kind of a wierd and currently unexplainable move though? Most deffinitely.

Which brings me back to AVs post...
Getting poor ratings with an original program exposes you to blame, getting poor ratings with a copy-cat program shields you from risk of making a decision.
Not partucularly productive reasoning but, so far the only thing that makes sense. That, and the idea forwarded that maybe they're going to DVD with all this stuff and that's why it's being pulled. Even then I'm still at kind of a loss though.

Cause if you're plan is try and sell shows like "The Jersey" at 3:00AM...I mean c'mon...there's just no audience for that stuff at that hour...you might as well just go off air during the overnight. Of course, then again maybe I'm wrong. The fact being I know absolutely nothing about, and having absolutely no experience programming a tv station. Though experience doesn't seem to have helped anyone at ABC. :p
 
Yes, Peter Pirate please do enjoy your trip. And please let that other "garbage" go. :D I was certainly never angry, just wanted to make my opinion very clear. I guess that I succeeded. ;)
 
I couldn't care less if they take the old Vault Disney stuff off The Disney Channel as long as I could be certain it was going to come out on DVD.
Unfortunately, those of you who bought the first wave of Disneyland Treasures DVDs know that several have been edited: in the Disneyland USA set, parts of the Tiki Room show and a Mouseketeer song were dropped from two of the shows because Disney is either in a dispute (with the Mousketeers) or no longer owns the rights to the music (in the Tiki Room show). Either way, the result is that while they continued to air the UNedited full length shows on Walt Disney Presents on TV, those of us who paid for the DVD box set got screwed! And you can bet it will happen again because The Disney Company is a cheap SOB these days.
 
Geez, I bought the DL Treasure, along with Silly Symphonies & Mickey Mouse, a couple days again. I was mad that the Mickey cartoons weren't in widescreen (a reasonable assumption, no?), but the DL ones are edited?!

The Ei$ner boys just swiped $100 off of me! :mad:
 














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