Vacation Magic - I mean, Disney Files

Deb & Bill

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Did you get the newest edition with Jack Sparrow on the cover? It has less DVC news in it again. 10.5 pages out of 32 with any DVC information on it. And I'm kind of stretching it at times. Going downhill again. Ms. Bilby had 2/3 of a page with a farewell column and Mr Potrock (wasn't he Fred Flintstone's boss??) had 1/3 of the page.

And nothing at all about GF Villas.
 
Yes, we got it today.

I was also hoping for a hint about Grand Floridian. I mostly want to know if it will have 3 bathrooms in the 2 bd... but whatever...
 
Did you get the newest edition with Jack Sparrow on the cover? It has less DVC news in it again. 10.5 pages out of 32 with any DVC information on it. And I'm kind of stretching it at times. Going downhill again. Ms. Bilby had 2/3 of a page with a farewell column and Mr Potrock (wasn't he Fred Flintstone's boss??) had 1/3 of the page.

And nothing at all about GF Villas.
There is a lot of scuttlebutt going around on other sites, and among my DVC friends on Facebook that Disney is worried we are using our DVC villas, but going off property much more. That is the case with me, except off property means DLR instead of WDW. We haven't been to WDW in 3 years, and some say that is the reason we DVC members were offered the huge discount on the AP. Perhaps all the non DVC articles in the magazine is another attempt to keep us from going off property.
 
I think that there will be complaints about the Disfiles no matter what they do. Personally, I like it much better now than I liked it years ago. There were a bunch of interesting little articles. Let's face it, we are all members of DVC because we love Disney, and that magazine whets the appetite for going down there again. I love the little "behind the scenes" stuff.

I can't imagine that it would easy to produce a magazine just about DVC, and if so, I think it would be totally boring.
 

I think that there will be complaints about the Disfiles no matter what they do. Personally, I like it much better now than I liked it years ago. There were a bunch of interesting little articles. Let's face it, we are all members of DVC because we love Disney, and that magazine whets the appetite for going down there again. I love the little "behind the scenes" stuff.

I can't imagine that it would easy to produce a magazine just about DVC, and if so, I think it would be totally boring.
Personally, I'd love to see the magazine offer ideas within driving distance to our villa in FLA. If we go back to FLA we want to see NASA, and whatever we have been missing outside of Disney by staying on property and only going to the parks. Doing the same old, same old for years at WDW gets old. Looking for fresh stuff to see.
 
Did you get the newest edition with Jack Sparrow on the cover? It has less DVC news in it again. 10.5 pages out of 32 with any DVC information on it. And I'm kind of stretching it at times. Going downhill again.

It's always going to be a cyclical thing. DVC doesn't exactly move a light speed. Some quarters they can share info about Saratoga Springs refurbs, AP discounts and other new perks. Other quarters there just isn't a lot happening and they have to dig deeper with tennis discounts.

Speaking as someone who follows DVC news pretty closely, it's been a really uneventful year so far.

It was a pretty boring issue but (IMO) that has more to do with a lack of any noteworthy happenings than poor editorial decisions.

And nothing at all about GF Villas.

Not until they are licensed and ready to sell.
 
I'd love to see the magazine offer ideas within driving distance to our villa in FLA.
I'll go out on a limb to suggest that there is zero chance---none, nada, zip---that any Disney publication will give you non-Disney suggestions for spending your time and money.
 
There is a lot of scuttlebutt going around on other sites, and among my DVC friends on Facebook that Disney is worried we are using our DVC villas, but going off property much more. .....(snip).....

I think this is the real reason for the $399 DVC PAP offer last fall. Perhaps if they deem it successful, they will offer it again or make it "permanent".
 
I know this will never happen, but I'd like to see an occasional feature on one of the "old" Florida attractions, like Gatorland, or the history of Cypress Gardens (now Legoland), Silver Springs, World of Orchids, etc. A lot of those more classic attractions have a relaxing charm all their own.

A NASA article would be great, too.

Articles on some old defunct attractions and their history would be interesting.

I certainly would not expect ever to see any articles about a major competitor, but these more classic side trips would be interesting.

I usually do two WDW trips per year at 8 or 9 nights per trip. Even with an annual pass, on an extended trip of 9 or 10 days I may not want to do a Disney park every single day. I need a little "down time."
 
Since DVC Members pay for the publication to be published and mailed, I would like to see 2/3 DVC content and 1/3 Disney.

Use it as a way to communicate between DVC Management and owners. Share upcoming refurb plans, a Q&A section, construction details on new resorts, info on members sharing how they use their membership. Spotlight other members of the DVC team, a MS Advisor, a team lead, a resort manager, a Mousekeeper.

Tips on planning, best time to call MS, new perks, how a reservation wait list works.

The content possibilities are endless.

I would also like to see an opt out option for the printed version and make the publication available online the day that the printed version is mailed.

:earsboy: Bill
 
Since DVC Members pay for the publication to be published and mailed, I would like to see 2/3 DVC content and 1/3 Disney.

Use it as a way to communicate between DVC Management and owners. Share upcoming refurb plans, a Q&A section, construction details on new resorts, info on members sharing how they use their membership. Spotlight other members of the DVC team, a MS Advisor, a team lead, a resort manager, a Mousekeeper.

Tips on planning, best time to call MS, new perks, how a reservation wait list works.

The content possibilities are endless.

I would also like to see an opt out option for the printed version and make the publication available online the day that the printed version is mailed.

:earsboy: Bill

This would be great. I have not been a member for long like many of you and this information would be great. It would be fantastic if the PAP deal was made permanent. Interesting theory about the off property stuff, and never will they give you ideas to spend your money that won't go into their pocket! :rotfl2:
 
It would be nice if they could take a little Flower and Garden Festival and take it to the DVC resorts - maybe dress up the main check in area ala F&G. Same with Food & Wine. Dress up the restaurant at the resort with a touch of F&W with small samples of the main dishes to be purchased for lesser amounts. Show off their wares. Sell a DVC F&G or F&W t-shirt. Advertise both of them at one time. Everyone wants a new DVC t-shirt (as long as it is 100% cotton, not that recycled crap).

Then write about those in DF. Two birds with one stone.
 
Since DVC Members pay for the publication to be published and mailed..........

Are you sure about this? I have been told that DVD (sales arm) pays for this, not members.

I see no benefit that warrants using Member dues for this publication, but there are certainly benefits to Disney.
 
It doesn't seem to have the sales/marketing disclaimer ("THIS PROMOTIONAL MATERIAL IS BEING USED FOR THE PURPOSE OF SOLICITING SALES OF TIMESHARE INTERESTS.") so I'm guessing it is not from DVD.
 
Are you sure about this? I have been told that DVD (sales arm) pays for this, not members.

I see no benefit that warrants using Member dues for this publication, but there are certainly benefits to Disney.

The "Member Activities" component of our dues pays for a our quarterly news letter, association meetings (Dapper Dans), printing and postage, and recreation activities and events at the resorts.

For BCV in 2013 the cost budgeted is $786,036, BLT $887,108, VWL $350,007, and AKV $1,264,437. Seems like a lot of money.

I assumed that Disney Files was the quarterly news letter, maybe I am incorrect.

:earsboy: Bill
 
There is a lot of scuttlebutt going around on other sites, and among my DVC friends on Facebook that Disney is worried we are using our DVC villas, but going off property much more. That is the case with me, except off property means DLR instead of WDW. We haven't been to WDW in 3 years, and some say that is the reason we DVC members were offered the huge discount on the AP. Perhaps all the non DVC articles in the magazine is another attempt to keep us from going off property.

That discounted PAP is an excellent way to keep people on property, worked for us.
 
There is a lot of scuttlebutt going around on other sites, and among my DVC friends on Facebook that Disney is worried we are using our DVC villas, but going off property much more. That is the case with me, except off property means DLR instead of WDW. We haven't been to WDW in 3 years, and some say that is the reason we DVC members were offered the huge discount on the AP. Perhaps all the non DVC articles in the magazine is another attempt to keep us from going off property.


Personally I would not consider DLR being off Disney property. And there is a VGC there as well. I think you are still continuing to drink the Disney Koolaid like many of us are too, whether in WDW, DLR or Aulani.
 
I think this is the real reason for the $399 DVC PAP offer last fall. Perhaps if they deem it successful, they will offer it again or make it "permanent".

I think that is absolutely correct, Carol.
 
There is a lot of scuttlebutt going around on other sites, and among my DVC friends on Facebook that Disney is worried we are using our DVC villas, but going off property much more. That is the case with me, except off property means DLR instead of WDW. We haven't been to WDW in 3 years, and some say that is the reason we DVC members were offered the huge discount on the AP. Perhaps all the non DVC articles in the magazine is another attempt to keep us from going off property.

I think it's both interesting and ironic that this would come up, especially given the fact that we have to remind newbies that come here all the time that DVC essentially only guarantees you a room. Everything else can come and go. Mostly go lately it seems, but I digress.

I think that the initial allure to most of us was the entrapment of WDW and its surroundings and to be encapsulated in the magic, I, for one, got caught in the trap of ignoring all the other costs associated with my travels south outside simply the cost of the "room." It's the board/meals. It's the tickets. It's the transportation back and forth. It's the recurring and ever-rising annual dues.

Don't get me wrong. I love WDW. I suspect I always will. But just as the "rumors" have guessed, we a now focusing our attentions more and more to Orlando as a destination and hence the attractions outside WDW proper. It's the best of both worlds. We almost always go off-site to eat now. The parks are too expensive to eat at and it's a quick diversion down 192 (We stay at AKK and BLT most of the time.) and we're right back in the magic, especially when we eat early, which we do most of the time. There's a lot of Orlando outside the boundaries of WDW and we are investigating it more and more.

For example, Seaworld and Universal are doing more and more to lure WDW guests outside Disney's sacred boundaries. Both have very aggressive AP prices now very much aimed at a captive audience like us; an audience that comes back year after year and many of us multiple times in one year.

As has been said a thousand times on this board, Disney "owes" us nothing except a room. That's what we paid for. That's ours. Guaranteed. They don't really even "owe" it to us. We own it and they are obligated to make it available. The point I'm trying to make is that as most of us age in our memberships, more and more of us will begin to do as we have done of late and venture out more when we are there.

It's true they don't have to "give" us anything, but my bet would be that their initial bet on the come with DVC was that ventures outside the walls would be few and far between. That may have been true, especially at the onset when it was all new to all of us, but as time passes and economic conditions force many of us to stretch our vacation dollars to gain value, we are now seeking better value for our hard-earned dollar. If Disney chooses to continue to raise prices at and in the parks and resorts while continuing to diminish perceived value, this problem is just going to get worse over time.

If Disney wants to keep us and our dollars on-property, they are going to have to earn it "back." Just like they don't owe us anything, we are slowly realizing collectively, I think, as a "group," that we don't owe them anything in return either. Disney is going to have to up the perks associated with DVC or risk totally losing the intended long-term value to them with which I bet the entire system was based. They may have only sold us accommodations, but they're lure was to get us in the parks and resorts to spend our money there and only there.

There's a lot of money to be lost to DVCers traveling and touring off-property. The first person at Disney and figures out a way to "fix it" will be a hero and will be rewarded beyond belief. As long as they sit there like ostriches with their proverbial heads in the sand ignoring what's going on, those dollars are going elsewhere. We get tired of being treated like second-class guests at the resorts too. That has to end as well, because that's part of the reason we venture off-property now too.

Incentive perks for DVCers are good for us but they're good for Disney too. Notice I didn't say good for DVC. The quicker somebody figures out the big picture and looks outside the boundaries of DVC alone, the better off we will be. Disney too. That's my whole point.

{ramble/rant off}
 
{Synopsis of above for those that don't want to read that long post.}

For those of you that always say that DVC doesn't owe us anything, I say, "Correct. But I don't owe them anything either." If you want me to give you something, you need to give me something and if you don't, I'll go to somebody that will. There's lots of places in Orlando and Tampa to spend money while enjoying a "luxury" room at MY DVC.
 



















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