Using round trip for one-way ... question

LittleDino

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Hi all,

I've been searching for decent air fare from Newark NJ (EWR) to Columbus OH (CMH). I only want a one way flight... however, the only non-stop flights are offered through Continental. I've noticed for my date that a one-way flight costs $349... but if I choose a "return" date... the price of the flight is $173. I'd much rather pay the lower fare. If I buy the round trip fare, will I be penalized if I don't take the return leg of the flight?

Thanks in advance!!

PS - If you've got any other ways to find a cheap flight for this route let me know. :)
 
I have done this and just thrown the return away...
 
No problem, as long as you are throwing away the *return* leg, and not the *outbound* leg. As soon as you miss a flight, the remainder of your itinerary is typically cancelled.
 
Keep in mind that this is a known practice in the airline biz, called "Throwaway Ticketing". Some airlines don't care -- others do. For example, US Airways says, "US Airways specifically prohibits the practices commonly known as: ... "Throw Away Ticketing" - the use of round-trip excursion fares for one-way travel. ... Where a ticket is invalidated as a result of the customer's non-compliance with any term or condition of sale, US Airways has the right in its sole discretion to: ... Assess the customer for the reasonable remaining value of the ticket, which shall be no less than the difference between the fare actually paid and the lowest fare applicable to the customer's actual itinerary"

They've not done that, as far as I know, to any individual passenger, but they, and the other major airlines, have assessed travel agents for difference between the roundtrip fare and the one-way fare for tickets where it is evident that the Throwaway Ticketing practice was effected.
 

Thanks for your answers. It will be the return portion of the flight that I'd "miss."

So should I call the airline after I've made the 1st flight and say I won't be on the return leg? Or should I just not show up and let them figure it out? :rolleyes1
 
That's a real hard question. Telling them in advance almost relieves you of the moral issue, but raises the chances that they'll say you have to pay the difference. Not telling them leaves you basically in a position where you're violating the contract you made with them.
 
Brian Noble said:
No problem, as long as you are throwing away the *return* leg, and not the *outbound* leg. As soon as you miss a flight, the remainder of your itinerary is typically cancelled.

Very true! I knew a girl who did this once :earseek: :earseek:

Anne
 
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Call after you fly out and before you return and tell them due to:

1) family emergency
2) illness keeping you from flying (middle ear problem, etc.)
3) other good reason to keep you from traveling like your boss needs you to jet to a third place they don't service

that you won't be flying them home. If they start to waffle, become a bit indignant. This usually does the trick.

I've had all three as valid excuses. I'll leave the ethical side of this to you to ponder :)
 
I did this on an Austrailian trip. My sister who lives in Sydney came to US to live when my DM was very ill. She made her own flight arrangments for the flight over here. When it was time to go back 2 years later almost. I found a deal of $750 RT out of LAX. It was the same flight she had tried to book for $1498. I just booked for her as a RT. I told the ticket agent what I was doing and he said just have her call a week or so prior to the return flight and tell them she will not be able to return for family reasons. Tell them she realizes there will not be a refund of the difference :rotfl2: . This gives them some time to rebook that seat so they get another $1498 off another person for a one way flight. LOL
 
I'm not sure I'd call it a moral obligation---the airlines expect a certain fraction of their customers to not show up. Plus, it's not clear to me that buying a ticket obligates you to fly---at least I've never seen that in any contract of carriage that I've read. It's certainly nice to call them and tell them you can't fly, though, since it makes it easier for them to sell another seat, and I can't imagine any CSR actually trying to charge you for doing so.

However, I have heard of airlines cancelling FF miles or trying to back-charge customers, but only when you are using throwaways for something called "back to back" ticketing. For example, suppose I have a business trip to SEA from DTW, where I want to leave Monday morning and return Friday night. Suppose that trip costs $500. But, if I were to come back on Sunday morning (with a Saturday stay) the trip only costs $200. A back-to-back trip would be: book a round trip Monday DTW->SEA, Sunday SEA->DTW. Book a *second* round trip Friday SEA->DTW, Sunday DTW->SEA. Then, fly the first halves of each leg, and throw away the second halves.

This works even better if, say, you are a consultant, and have to go to SEA regularly. Then, you can book them in such a way that you get to use both halves, and end up paying less than half price for each trip, and still be home with your family on the weekends. This is also convenient for Mileage Runners, as they can book in a way that sends them to SEA for the week, home for the weekend, then out to SEA and back on the Sunday night departure, and the Monday morning red eye back---collecting double FF miles for a cheaper fare.

Back to back ticketing is a lot less common than it used to be, because airlines have gotten better about eliminating the aribtrage opportunity: Saturday-stay fares have been eliminated by some airlines, and others have started pricing them rationally at just a bit more than half the business class fare. In such cases, it's more expensive to book back-to-back than it is conventionally.

However, airlines have also gotten a lot better at spotting back-to-back ticketing, and (at minimum) they will cancel your FF miles earned on the segments, and they will try to charge you the difference if you are a habitual abuser. To the best of my knowledge, such attempts have never held up in court, but fighting the airline costs money too.

If you back-to-back or throwaway once in a blue moon, you'll probably never be noticed, but the two back-to-back flights need to be on separate airlines (and frequent flyer programs), otherwise it's trivial to spot. However, if you habitually throwaway, even if you never back-to-back on the same FF program, you are likely to call attention to yourself. Business travelers (the ones who could conceivably do this more than once in a blue moon) generally don't bother---I charge all my flight costs either to my research accounts (if I am on University business) or to my clients as time+materials (if I am consulting), and I'd prefer to collect all of my frequent flyer miles on one airline to keep my preferred-flyer status.

I haven't had a situation where a back-to-back ticket was useful for a leisure trip in quite a long time. For that matter, for many of my one-way trips, I haven't even needed to use a throwaway. For example, my in laws live between Baltimore and DC, very near BWI. When the kids have the week off of school, my wife will often drive them down, and if I'm teaching Tu/Th, I'll fly down to join them Thursday night, and drive back with them on Sunday. It's often significantly cheaper to fly one-way to DCA from DTW, and then take the train out to them than it is to buy a round trip throwaway to BWI, and really not any less convenient.
 
Genreally they cfatch you on the Back to back tickets that frequent flyers use. (The way around this is to use two airlines!)

If I were OP I would just buy the roundtrip and not worry about it!
 
Since we are talking airline ticketing strategies, someone mentioned on another thread about beware of "open jaw" flights. Does anyone know they are talking about?
 
Open jaw is into one city and out of another. Not a clue why you would need to "beware". This is a normal acceptable practice that the airlines have no problem with. I have the following coming up on DL for example

ATL to BOS
BOS to TPA
TPA to ATL
 
You leave chicago and fly to orlando.
you drive from orlando to tampa
you fly from tampa to chicago

The drive from orlando to tampa is the open jaw portion of the trip.
 
Plus, it's not clear to me that buying a ticket obligates you to fly---at least I've never seen that in any contract of carriage that I've read.
Read 'em again! :) Many major airlines do indeed make it clear that they're using roundtrip fares to differentiate travelers. They are deliberately offering lower fares to passengers who are on roundtrip itineraries, and penalizing travel agents when passengers violate the CoC.
 
Thanks everyone for your responses.

Bicker - I didn't know about the contract... like most people, I don't pay too close attention to them. ;) I certainly want to do the right thing, so I'll continue to research what other flight options I have. Haven't bought the ticket yet. Who knows? Maybe they'll match the one way price to the round trip price in a few weeks.

And speaking of open jaw... I'm doing that with this trip as well.
CMH to MCO (Disney vacation)
MCO to PHL (flying from Disney to visit relatives)
EWR to CMH (flying from relatives back home)

My relatives live in between Philly and Newark... so either airport works. I'm finding cheaper flights with Newark so far. Already bought one way tickets for the first two legs of the flight... just need that 3rd leg to complete the trip.
 
On the back to backs, I did something similar with my son once, but I didn't know it was a problem, and the airline didn't say anything.

We booked a week family trip to Orlando leaving Friday night and coming back week later Sunday with all of us on the same flights.

Things started getting dicy with my son at school, so we decided he needed to go home for school for the week, so we then booked him on a separate ticket home Sunday night, then back to MCO on Thursday night.

He used all four legs, but just not in order. The airline didn't say anything, and didn't do anything to his miles.

Carol
 














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