Using another 1 day ticket to "park hop" on the same day

[Maistre Gracey]

Makes perfect sense. Disney only makes a percentage of it's money off tickets. They make money by having guests stay in the parks longer. Giving them a cheaper way to stay in their parks for fewer days is what you're basically advocating which is the thing that doesn't make any sense. If you understand the economics of pricing and where Disney's money comes from - it's completely logical.

i understand economics all too well...
But what makes you think more time would be spent in the parks? There is. no proof of that.. They could be running into the shop to buy something. Or, they could be going to get a late night snack at Epcot, and could not get in thus Disney losing money.

 

[Dr.Mickey]

Lots of people have suggested it - they're just wrong! : )

Sorry, Dave. Dang touch screen fired off my post before I finished it. I went on to say I had already figured that out a couple of years ago.

 

[DavidNYC]

i understand economics all too well...
But what makes you think more time would be spent in the parks? There is. no proof of that.. They could be running into the shop to buy something. Or, they could be going to get a late night snack at Epcot, and could not get in thus Disney losing money.

Their pricing system makes it that for $10 extra you can get another full day in the parks once you hit 4 days. It encourages people who want multiple trips into different parks to do one of two things, either extend the trip, or buy the hopper. Allowing someone to buy a six day ticket and use 2 entries on each of 3 days undermines that. I can pretty much guarantee you that Disney has loads of proof as to what keeps people in the parks longer. They've spent millions (maybe billions) of dollars understanding exactly what keeps people in the parks and spending money.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Their pricing system makes it that for $10 extra you can get another full day in the parks once you hit 4 days. It encourages people who want multiple trips into different parks to do one of two things, either extend the trip, or buy the hopper. Allowing someone to buy a six day ticket and use 2 entries on each of 3 days undermines that. I can pretty much guarantee you that Disney has loads of proof as to what keeps people in the parks longer. They've spent millions (maybe billions) of dollars understanding exactly what keeps people in the parks and spending money.

I bet they don't. I used to be a Disney apologist, but over the years I've seen more silly moves than I can count.
My previous example of bridging is a prime one.

 

[ravenclawtrekkie]

"One park per day" is one of the first phrases I learned to say in Spanish at my job. (Still working on the Portuguese.)

 

[Maistre Gracey]

"One park per day" is one of the first phrases I learned to say in Spanish at my job. (Still working on the Portuguese.)

Indeed. So using a second day for a second park makes perfect sense.

 

[ravenclawtrekkie]

Indeed. So using a second day for a second park makes perfect sense.

Perhaps if you're a time traveler and can condense two calendar days into the space of one.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Perhaps if you're a time traveler and can condense two calendar days into the space of one.

Whatever... If the parks are open until 1:00 am, should you then be able to use a second day at midnight??

 

[ravenclawtrekkie]

Whatever... If the parks are open until 1:00 am, should you then be able to use a second day at midnight??

A "business day" is defined as the open of business until the close of business. If that doesn't make sense to you, I'm sorry.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Perhaps if you're a time traveler and can condense two calendar days into the space of one.

Funny thing is, I live 20 minutes away and pay only for a resident pass. It doesn't affect me at all. I'm fighting for you guys, but somehow you are fighting for Disney to take more of your money.

MG

 

[Maistre Gracey]

A "business day" is defined as the open of business until the close of business. If that doesn't make sense to you, I'm sorry.

See above post

 

[Robo]

Makes perfect sense. Disney only makes a percentage of it's money off tickets. They make money by having guests stay in the parks longer. Giving them a cheaper way to stay in their parks for fewer days is what you're basically advocating which is the thing that doesn't make any sense. If you understand the economics of pricing and where Disney's money comes from - it's completely logical.

It also makes perfect sense to charge $10-$25 to enter a WDW park for a full extra day than to buy a full-price ticket to, say, Universal Studios or Sea World for many times that $10.
It tends to keep WDW guests AT a WDW park for an extra day or two or three, rather than heading to the competition.

This is not a theory or a "gee, why do they do that" kind of thing.
It IS designed especially and specifically to make it an incentive for guests to "stay for more days" at WDW.

 

[IrishNYC]

Funny thing is, I live 20 minutes away and pay only for a resident pass. It doesn't affect me at all. I'm fighting for you guys, but somehow you are fighting for Disney to take more of your money.

MG

No one is fighting for Disney to take more money. Most everyone here is just explaining the rules as they are: one park per day unless you have a hopper. That's the rules. The end.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Why not just mail Disney a few hundred extra every year "

No one is fighting for Disney to take more money. Most everyone here is just explaining the rules as they are: one park per day unless you have a hopper. That's the rules. The end.

lol!! I understand it's the rule, but my point is it's not a fair rule. The end??

MG

 

[Allison]

Whatever... If the parks are open until 1:00 am, should you then be able to use a second day at midnight??

No.

 

[linzbear]

Why not just mail Disney a few hundred extra every year "

I'm pretty sure everyone does that already.

So it's not fair, don't like it, don't go.

I don't think it's fair that I have to pay a ridiculous buffet price for my 3 year old who barely eats anything. So I don't go. If someone thinks it's unfair they can't use a 6 day ticket over 3 business days, they can just buy the 3 day ticket and spend less money not parkhopping or not go at all. Isn't the phrase, "speak with your wallet" pertinent here?

 

[SureAsLiz]

lol!! I understand it's the rule, but my point is it's not a fair rule. The end??

fair1
fer/
adjective

1. 1.
   in accordance with the rules or standards; legitimate.

adverb

1. 1.
   without cheating or trying to achieve unjust advantage.

Everyone who has a base ticket is allowed entry into 1 park per business day with that ticket
Everyone who has a Park Hopper ticket is allowed into multiple parks per business day with that ticket
Everyone with a specific AP type at time of entry is allowed/not allowed into a park based on the ticket block out days assigned

What wouldn't be fair, would be someone falling out of those guidelines, thus trying to go outside of the rules or trying to achieve an advantage by paying less for entry than if the correct/legitimate ticket was purchased ($10 for an extra day vs $64 PH upgrade).

The whole reason for the change to expiring tickets and the finger scanner is because people (locals) were purchasing the max number of ticket days and then reselling individual days to tourists, despite the fact that tickets are marked for individual use only. Their cheating of the system was unfair because they were breaking the rules for personal gain.

 

[Allison]

Why not just mail Disney a few hundred extra every year "

lol!! I understand it's the rule, but my point is it's not a fair rule. The end??

MG

The consumer buys a ticket from the seller at an agreed upon price with stated entitlements allowing access in a specific way. How is that not fair? It is an agreed upon exchange transaction.

 

[OrangeCountyCommuter]

fair1
fer/
adjective

1. 1.
   in accordance with the rules or standards; legitimate.

adverb

1. 1.
   without cheating or trying to achieve unjust advantage.

Everyone who has a base ticket is allowed entry into 1 park per business day with that ticket
Everyone who has a Park Hopper ticket is allowed into multiple parks per business day with that ticket
Everyone with a specific AP type at time of entry is allowed/not allowed into a park based on the ticket block out days assigned

What wouldn't be fair, would be someone falling out of those guidelines, thus trying to go outside of the rules or trying to achieve an advantage by paying less for entry than if the correct/legitimate ticket was purchased ($10 for an extra day vs $64 PH upgrade).

The whole reason for the change to expiring tickets and the finger scanner is because people (locals) were purchasing the max number of ticket days and then reselling individual days to tourists, despite the fact that tickets are marked for individual use only. Their cheating of the system was unfair because they were breaking the rules for personal gain.

The "whole reason" for expiring tickets was "we can make more money". There were lots of other options to prevent reselling and the 14 time limit actually encourages reselling as people know "well I can't use this, might as well sell it" (And I gave away my extra day last visit. The person I gave it to was able to get in with it. So if Disney had let me keep it until I was coming back they would not have had this "cheating" occur. The truth is the expiration probably is encouraging abuse not discouraging it!)

 

[Jarmo]

Why not just mail Disney a few hundred extra every year "

lol!! I understand it's the rule, but my point is it's not a fair rule. The end??

MG

It's not a stupid or unfair rule because the price structure is built around it. So, if Disney stopped offering very steep discounts for extra days then you would have a point. Right now Disney can offer extremely cheap "extra" days because of the way the park hopping option is implemented.