Us Travel - Urgent Updated

[mytwotinks]

My hubby just sat beside me and happened to glance at your post, and loved your sense of humor. We then riffed on a few ways to break the rules (yes I was the person who said we couldn't break the rules, but I can hnorously list ways to do it)

I am thinking of a few places I could shove a tube of chap stick! LOL

Kim

The airlines could make a mint selling chapstick on board. People like me who appply chapstick every 10 minutes (every 2 on a flight) are going to be in major puckered up dry lip pain! Don't get me wrong, I think we are all just going to have to suck it up and follow the rules. My poor dh is already worried about all of the whining I am going to do. My first stop when I get off of that plane is going to be to buy a Bonnie Bell lipsmacker!

 

[LakeAriel]

Here's the deal.......
NO matter what war it is, and who is fighting it, innocents will be killed. It is something, unfortunately, that we have to accept. Now I am not saying that we should not be sad about it or feel for the ones that have lost love ones; if it does not pull on your emotions when you see it, there is something wrong with you. BUT!, a country must do what it feels it has to do. Example: WWII the 2 atom bombs in Japan. Thousands of inncoecnt;s lost their lives, but it is something the US felt they had to do to end the war for good.

In Iraq, we are no longer fighting a military force, but groups of peopel who want to control the country. The chaos going on in Iraq is caused by religious groups not wiling to compromise with each other. It is the mind-set of the people not the US. (I have 4 family memebrs over there, and I hear stuff that I am not supposed too. So do not try to argue about this one with me)

Israel and Lebonon: Israel is doing what it feels is nessary to defend itself from a terrorist group! I hope that our country would do the same. For the innocents that are being killed there it is a shame, but Israle has tried to warn them (they have dropped many and many leaflets in areas well before they bomb it, so the civillians have a chance to leave)

And one more thing before I go back to nice guy ladies and gentlemen, I hate to burst your bubble, but we are in WWIII (some would say WWIV, and that the cold-war was WWIII, anyways)!!!! It is a "global" war on terrorism. What the "ef" do you think global means! I say bomb the damn *******s and get it over with!


...In Iraq, we are no longer fighting a military force, but groups of peopel who want to control the country.

Damn people! Trying to control their own country! GASP!

 

[Linzybrooke]

Damn people! Trying to control their own country! GASP!

You know, I wish we could all just agree to disagree but on this comment I have to state my piece. Allowing a militant group intent on murdering the innocent and condeming anyone with an opposing viewpoint (as is the case with these groups) would be like letting the KKK run the United States. Would you feel comfortable living here if that were the case?

Now, can we all PLEASE stop this pointless banter? There is no way to prove who is right or wrong, because the beauty of it is that we are all entitled to our own opinions and thoughts. Sometimes they are best kept unsaid because the arguement just goes in continuous circles.

So, my chapstick buddies. Bonne Belle or Lipsmackers?

 

[Hugpug]

God Bless this country. Stop complaining. Would you rather be blown up or be a little inconvenience for a short while and safe.

 

[LakeAriel]

Allowing a militant group intent on murdering the innocent and condeming anyone with an opposing viewpoint (as is the case with these groups) would be like letting the KKK run the United States. Would you feel comfortable living here if that were the case?


Butcher of Baghdad, evil empire, axis of evil, etc etc sound familiar? It is how this government condemns governments that disagree with us. We need to sit down with our enemies, like it or not. Even moderate Arab states are now infuriated with us for our complete lack of fair handedness in the Middle East.
George Bush cannot converse with heads of States, even dictators. It's very sad.
..and what in the world does the KKK have to do with it? Poor analogy.

 

[Sk8Leigh]

No more politics here for me, no one is enjoying that. And, BTW, I'm a She....

but since I only have one bad eye and I'm not driving the plane

This just cracked me up.

My kids want to bring a CD player and a Nintendo DS for entertainment on the plane. I guess I'll just ask when we check in if those are going to be allowed or not.

I just saw Chertoff on tv and he said that electronics were still allowed. So I would check before you go, but as of now you're ok.

It's a shame we have to go through this but it's for all of our safety so it is what it is. I'm kinda glad I'm flying out of Midway instead of Ohare. Even though they have the same precautions, it's a smaller airport with less travelers.

I'm flying out of Midway to go to DL next month. I'm not sure it's really better! They only have one security area, rather than several in the different terminals. So everyone goes to the same place. But I did just hear today that they were opening up a couple more lines (today?), and will open a few more soon.

 

[pbnjrockette]

They make wet ones to clean your hands, brush-ups to brush your teeth and sunscreen wipes wanna bet someone will come up with a chapstick-type wipe in the very near future?

 

[Jobie]

Here's the deal.......
NO matter what war it is, and who is fighting it, innocents will be killed. It is something, unfortunately, that we have to accept. Now I am not saying that we should not be sad about it or feel for the ones that have lost love ones; if it does not pull on your emotions when you see it, there is something wrong with you. BUT!, a country must do what it feels it has to do. Example: WWII the 2 atom bombs in Japan. Thousands of inncoecnt;s lost their lives, but it is something the US felt they had to do to end the war for good.

In Iraq, we are no longer fighting a military force, but groups of peopel who want to control the country. The chaos going on in Iraq is caused by religious groups not wiling to compromise with each other. It is the mind-set of the people not the US. (I have 4 family memebrs over there, and I hear stuff that I am not supposed too. So do not try to argue about this one with me)

Israel and Lebonon: Israel is doing what it feels is nessary to defend itself from a terrorist group! I hope that our country would do the same. For the innocents that are being killed there it is a shame, but Israle has tried to warn them (they have dropped many and many leaflets in areas well before they bomb it, so the civillians have a chance to leave)

And one more thing before I go back to nice guy ladies and gentlemen, I hate to burst your bubble, but we are in WWIII (some would say WWIV, and that the cold-war was WWIII, anyways)!!!! It is a "global" war on terrorism. What the "ef" do you think global means! I say bomb the damn *******s and get it over with!


...In Iraq, we are no longer fighting a military force, but groups of peopel who want to control the country.

Damn people! Trying to control their own country! GASP!

Sorry, I did not clearly state what I was trying to say. I was trying to saying that rather than these groups trying to come to an agreement with each other on how to run their country, they are trying to kill each other off instead. Imagine if our fore-fathers did the same thing while they were trying to kick start this country! You know there were many disagreements while they were writing the constitution, but they did not kill each other.

What I meant by "groups" of people, was not government groups, but groups outside of the Iraqi government. They want teh country ran their way, and with no compromise. Many of them have very far right, conservative Islamic ideas, that would lead into another Tali-ban like form of government.

 

[LakeAriel]

Sorry, I did not clearly state what I was trying to say. I was trying to saying that rather than these groups trying to come to an agreement with each other on how to run their country, they are trying to kill each other off instead. Imagine if our fore-fathers did the same thing while they were trying to kick start this country! You know there were many disagreements while they were writing the constitution, but they did not kill each other.

What I meant by "groups" of people, was not government groups, but groups outside of the Iraqi government. They want teh country ran their way, and with no compromise. Many of them have very far right, conservative Islamic ideas, that would lead into another Tali-ban like form of government.

Have you forgotten what we did to the Native Americans? How about what went on during "our very own" Civil War? Ah, Yes, we fought and fought brutally.
Anyway let's hope we all have safe journeys, and stop demonizing other nations for acting as we do!

 

[minnie61650]

Please lets not discuss politics on this thread.
I personally can see very valid points on both sides of the disagreement. There are so many points of view being discussed here. They may vary greatly and many have valid points but I feel this thread should be an information thread not a political thread.

BUT-----
The community board is a place where politics can be discussed. So Please take the discussion over there.


Stepping down from soapbox now.

 

[pugcrazy]

Have you forgotten what we did to the Native Americans? How about what went on during "our very own" Civil War? Ah, Yes, we fought and fought brutally.
Anyway let's hope we all have safe journeys, and stop demonizing other nations for acting as we do!

I really wish that I could live in your world, really do. But I do look at situations with a very critical eye. Yes, the earlier incarnations of our government (the US that is) did some things that they shouldn't be proud of (heck, it was done to half of my personal heritage, but I digress) but I would like to think that as a whole we learned and improved from that. Yes, we had a civil war, yes both sides committed atrocities (Sherman's march, Antioch), but we've come a long way since then.

The earlier analogy of the KKK is a very good one, a small, militant, vocal radical minority trying to impose their will across the majority through terrorism. Granted, the KKK didn't use suicide bombers, but did use lynch mobs, hid their faces, were really "brave" in groups, but cowardly when alone, sound alot like the groups like the Taliban, Al Qeda and Hezbulla. None of these groups represent a nation, they are (unfortunately the KKK still exists) radical extremists and not the policy makers of anyone but themselves. Radical Islam ignores one of the basic precepts of the religion they profess to follow, peace and kindness to others.

Yes, it would be great if all sides could sit down in the Middle East and come to an agreement, but it won't happen in our lifetime. Those conflicts have been around for over 4000 years, and don't show any sign of being resolved without the total elimination of one side or the other.

 

[Jobie]

Have you forgotten what we did to the Native Americans? How about what went on during "our very own" Civil War? Ah, Yes, we fought and fought brutally.
Anyway let's hope we all have safe journeys, and stop demonizing other nations for acting as we do!

As another post mentioned, we have, as a nation, learned from our past mistakes (and still learning) and have moved forward. Why some believe that everything this nation is doing or has done in the past is evil, is beyond me, especially when you consider how many wonderful things this country has to offer.

Apprantly you are only wanting to argue tonight, so this is my last response and we will have to agree to disagree.

 

[xWishes]

AHHH POLITICS! Watch out!!!

So who's excited for DISNEY...YEAH!!!

 

[Nancyg56]

If you're so concerned about the Marines, why don't you go join them?

Sorry THIS sounds harsh, but I have a problem with people telling me how to think.

I usually avoid a judgemental response, but I have to jump in here. My nephew is a Marine serving in Iraq on his third tour. He is joined by so many other brave men and women who are sacrificing basic comforts in order to safegaurd you and your family. The DIS is home to family members of these troups and miss them and worry about them every minute of every day, and who wil not get a complete night's sleep until their loved one steps on US soil.

I really do not care what you think, and would never try to change your opinion, but I would ask that you to try to avoid sarcastic comments that ridicule and minimize the living conditions of our troops stationed overseas. My nephew does not get 5 full hours of sleep a day...he sleeps during the day with temps that are in excess of 115 degrees. He shares his care packages with thise in his unit who do not have the same level of support from home, so would never have the same items that we cannot carry on with us for a 3 hour flight. They would go withour for at least 8 months and sometimes 18 months without these "necessities".

 

[carone0318]

This thread is in regards to the new regulations about flying, could everyone else please take their "other" comments off-line - start a new thread on the Community Board or PM each other.

I am doing my best to scroll past the nonsense, but I really don't want this thread to be locked because I am flying in a week and I would like to stay on top of things.

THANK YOU!

 

[Princess Sammi]

Please lets not discuss politics on this thread.
I personally can see very valid points on both sides of the disagreement. There are so many points of view being discussed here. They may vary greatly and many have valid points but I feel this thread should be an information thread not a political thread.


I totally agree................ and let's move on

 

[JRawkSteady]

I usually avoid a judgemental response, but I have to jump in here. My nephew is a Marine serving in Iraq on his third tour. He is joined by so many other brave men and women who are sacrificing basic comforts in order to safegaurd you and your family. The DIS is home to family members of these troups and miss them and worry about them every minute of every day, and who wil not get a complete night's sleep until their loved one steps on US soil.

I really do not care what you think, and would never try to change your opinion, but I would ask that you to try to avoid sarcastic comments that ridicule and minimize the living conditions of our troops stationed overseas. My nephew does not get 5 full hours of sleep a day...he sleeps during the day with temps that are in excess of 115 degrees. He shares his care packages with thise in his unit who do not have the same level of support from home, so would never have the same items that we cannot carry on with us for a 3 hour flight. They would go withour for at least 8 months and sometimes 18 months without these "necessities".

Nancy, I'm sorry that offended you, but I think you may have taken it the wrong way. I have nothing against the soldiers who decide to join the Marines. I have something against the person who was telling me that my feelings were petty.

Since there is no draft, those in our military choose to be where they are, fully aware of the consequences. It's very different than those who are forced to live without the little things. (Believe me, I would rather NEVER fly than not be able to listen to my music to calm myself down...i don't have a choice when it comes to work). I have my own stance about the military, but that is neither here nor there when you look at the facts. Again, I am sorry if I worded my response wrong.

 

[GoofyBaseballMom26]

I'm going to DISNEY WORLD.. I'm going to DISNEY WORLD .

I'm flying and I am GLAD the precautions are being taken. I quarantee you.. spending a little more for sunscreen is a lot more convenient than having a bomb on my airplane. My goodness... let's keep things in perspective and be glad we live in a county where we can go to Disney World and we can buy sunscreen and our government cares enough about its citizens to put these precautions into place.

I am sooo thankful this plot was uncovered.

 

[LakeAriel]

This thread is in regards to the new regulations about flying, could everyone else please take their "other" comments off-line - start a new thread on the Community Board or PM each other.

I am doing my best to scroll past the nonsense, but I really don't want this thread to be locked because I am flying in a week and I would like to stay on top of things.

THANK YOU!

There is a sticky at the top that will give you all the info you need for your flight. Also contact your airline for up to the minute info!

 

[katytrott]

Ah yes -- there's nothing quite like hearing the words "This is BBC World Service" to take me back "across the pond" to dear old Blighty.

Love your tag -- but must point out that Winnie may have lived in the Hundred Acre Wood in Sussex, but Winnie was from White River, Ontario, Canada.

Hi. I love it when I meet someone who knows the history of the original WTP (sorry totaly off topic). You are right, A.A. Milne and his son Cristopher Robin did indeed get the name Winnie from a bear in Canada (the Pooh bit came from the name they gave a swan that lived in the stream near them, but that's a different story). Just outside of East Grinstead, is Ashdown Forrest, and a village called Hartfield. This is where A.A.Milne lived and where Christopher Robin was brought up. The characters were in fact toys Christopher Robin had (Pooh looked completely differrent to the Pooh we know today, that inspiration came from E.H.Shephard who used his child's teddy). When you visit today you can go on a walking tour through the beautiful countryside which takes you to A.A.Milne's house, the poohstick bridge where they played, the sandy pit and all the other places you read in the stories that actually existed. You can also go to Pooh Corner shop which, according to them, stocks the largest selection of Pooh stuff in the world (certainly the original EH Shephard stuff, not Disney). This store actually dates back to 1690 and in the 1920's Christopher Robin and his nanny "Alice" (the same one you read in AA Milne's poems Now We Are Six and When We Were Young) used to visit to get sweets. Here is the website, sorry I don't know how to post the link though. It has a virtual photo tour around the real areas you see in EH Shephards map drawing (and at the start of the original WTP Disney film)
www.pooh-country.co.uk