US to declare war on Syria and Iran?

[TheDoctor]

The Baker/Hamilton Iraq Study Group strongly recommended that the US negotiate with and hold talks with Iran and Syria. Bush did not listen to this recommendation and instead made a not so veil threat against Iran and Syria. In effect, bush rejected his daddy's top man's advice and wants to escalate the conflict.

We are losing the war in Iraq now. Instead of dealing with this, bush wants to escalate the war by bringing Syria and Iran into the conflict. Bush is only sending 21,000 troops to Iraq because that is all the US has available and we want to attack two other countries? Where are we going to get the forces to take on Iran and Syria?

Iran has an active missle program and have some shore to ship missiles that could probably shut down all oil shipments through the Straits of Hormutz I guess that oil prices were too low and bush needed to get the prices higher.

 

[TheDoctor]

bush did not waste any time in taking the war to Iran. Last night the US committed an act of war under international law against Iran. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070111/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

BAGHDAD, Iraq - U.S.-led multinational forces detained six Iranians Thursday at Tehran's diplomatic mission in the northern city of Irbil, Iraqi officials said, as President Bush accused Iran and Syria of aiding militants and promised to "interrupt" the flow of support as part of his new war strategy. ....

In Tehran, Iran's Foreign Ministry summoned the Iraqi and Swiss ambassadors and "demanded an explanation" about the incident. Switzerland represents American interests in Iran, where there is no U.S. Embassy.

Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini told state-run radio that the raid was "against a diplomatic mission" since the "presence of Iranian staffers in Irbil was legal." Hosseini claimed the action by coalition forces reflected a "continuation of pressure" on Iran, aiming to "create tension" between Iraq and its neighbors.

If this building was a consulate, then attacking it was an act of war under international law. Bush is trying to diviert attention from his failed war in Iraq by trying to get the American public to focus on Iran. I do not think that this will work.

 

[ButchJohnson]

We're all bored with the current one, we need a few new ones.

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

Not exactly answering your question, but what do you think Achmedenijad is thinking right now? Dumping 20K troops at his back door is sure to get a rise out of him.

 

[LakeAriel]

I think when all is said and done Bush's legacy will be that he started WWIII. That is if anyone is left to record it.

 

[Cool-Beans]

I think when all is said and done Bush's legacy will be that he started WWIII. That is if anyone is left to record it.

The attack on America started this war.

 

[LakeAriel]

The attack on America started this war.

It preceded this war. George Bush started this war. Iraq had nothing to do with the attack on America on 9/11.

 

[JennyMominRI]

The attack on America started this war.

You realize that the war in Iraq is the reason Iran can stand around wavomg their arms saying Look at me! Look at me ,Right?
Iraq is basically the country that kept Iran under control..They knew if they got too loud and annying Iraq would shut them up..Now Iraq is a wreck and there is noone to stop Iran.

Why do you think we were on Iraq's side during the Iran vs Iraq war?

 

[BalooTheBear]

I really don't like to weigh in on this threads, I try to avoid them if at all possible.... But.....

I understand all your rights to free speech and all that ACLU liberties to post what you want and all. And, I know y'all will probably want to flame me (which if that's what does it for you, then by all means go for it....). And, I am not trying to deny y'all any of those rights....

But, give it a rest already.......................

 

[Cool-Beans]

It preceded this war. George Bush started this war. Iraq had nothing to do with the attack on America on 9/11.

You're the one who called it World War III. If you are counting the whole thing as one big war, it begins on September 11, 2001.

ETA: 2001, not 2991.

 

[JennyMominRI]

I really don't like to weigh in on this threads, I try to avoid them if at all possible.... But.....

I understand all your rights to free speech and all that ACLU liberties to post what you want and all. And, I know y'all will probably want to flame me (which if that's what does it for you, then by all means go for it....). And, I am not trying to deny y'all any of those rights....

But, give it a rest already.......................

Which *side* should give it a rest?

 

[Cool-Beans]

You realize that the war in Iraq is the reason Iran can stand around wavomg their arms saying Look at me! Look at me ,Right?
Iraq is basically the country that kept Iran under control..They knew if they got too loud and annying Iraq would shut them up..Now Iraq is a wreck and there is noone to stop Iran.

Why do you think we were on Iraq's side during the Iran vs Iraq war?

Because they don't like each other and it was better to get the Iraqis to fight it than our boys.

Iran, historically, has no love for us, either. Someone has to take care of them...it's been a long time coming. If it were us, that'd be nice. If it is Israel, so be it. Good for Israel.

And I'm thrilled that people are starting to talk about flippin Syria, which (IMHO) is the worst of the bunch.

 

[TheDoctor]

The attack on America started this war.

Wrong. Neither Iraq nor Iran was involved in the attack on Sept. 11. The war in Iraq and now the attacks on Iran are going to make or have made the area less secure and more dangerous. I can provide links and nice quotes from the Senate Intelligence Committee report that establishes that there were no links between Saddam/Iraq and Sept. 11 or Al Qaeda if you want.

 

[pansmermaidzlagoon]

I have a bad feeling that is what this whole "surge" is about.

which reminds me:
on our news last night they interviewed people on Bush's speech. They went to a local VFW where the consensus was against Bush. They interviewed one veteran who said there was no winning this war, it was already lost - a "surge" is what happens to water or something else, not troops - and that the whole thing just reminds him of Vietnam where they did troop build up after troop build up until the American people had had enough!!! He was clearly disgusted with Bush and the whole mess.

 

[Cool-Beans]

Wrong. Neither Iraq nor Iran was involved in the attack on Sept. 11. The war in Iraq and now the attacks on Iran are going to make or have made the area less secure and more dangerous. I can provide links and nice quotes from the Senate Intelligence Committee report that establishes that there were no links between Saddam/Iraq and Sept. 11 or Al Qaeda if you want.

Again, if you are calling it WWIII, one big war, there is no question about when it began. September 11, 2001.

 

[BalooTheBear]

Which *side* should give it a rest?

I'd prefer both sides.... If that was possible. But, there always seems to be the same ones starting these threads to let us all know what we are missing... As, if we don't read or watch the news.

I'm not choosing sides - My side for my country, our military, and our president!!!

I'm just getting so tired of seeing the same threads starting and always complaining about something that no one who who reads this can do anything about.....

That is the side I am saying give it a rest to.... We get it already!!!!!!!!

 

[TheDoctor]

Iran, historically, has no love for us, either. Someone has to take care of them...it's been a long time coming.

You realize that Iran cooperated and assisted the US in the attack on Al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanstan? The US received some significant and valuable help in the attacking the people who really attacked the US on Sept. 11.

 

[JennyMominRI]

I'd prefer both sides.... If that was possible. But, there always seems to be the same ones starting these threads to let us all know what we are missing... As, if we don't read or watch the news.

I'm not choosing sides - My side for my country, our military, and our president!!!

I'm just getting so tired of seeing the same threads starting and always complaining about something that no one who who reads this can do anything about.....

That is the side I am saying give it a rest to.... We get it already!!!!!!!!

We absolutely can do something about it and we have an obligation to this country and most especially to our military to do something about it.

 

[Cool-Beans]

You realize that Iran cooperated and assisted the US in the attack on Al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanstan? The US received some significant and valuable help in the attacking the people who really attacked the US on Sept. 11.

While you consider them your good buds they work on bombs to kill you.

They even announced that they ripped up UN papers and are going to work even harder on their bombs.

Whether you think they are good guys or not doesn't matter. They don't like you, they're going to try to kill you and will succeed eventually if they aren't stopped. Well, they might not kill you personally, but they'll kill Americans and Israelis.

 

[BalooTheBear]

We absolutely can do something about it and we have an obligation to this country and most especially to our military to do something about it.

Not going to go there....... I support our country and our military 100%...