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Aw man, we love Toon Lagoon. But I get it. We're just old school and love old cartoons.
I agree - but how many folks walk through there and have no idea who half of the characters are?
Popeye is a really well done and fun ride IMO and yeah it gets people - but I'm guessing many don't know much about the characters.

The burger at Wimpy's was the best burger I had on property - honestly better than the sit down places in City walk - but no one knows who Wimpy is.

Same for most of the other characters - Cathy, Beetle Baily, Family Circus, Blondie, Dudley Do-right, Hagar the Horrible - I remember them all and still have comics from many of them - but they are not really relevant anymore.

Just updating it to some more recent IP would probably be a boost to the area - even a small boost is better than no boost.

There is some sort of Stadium there as well I think so there is space to grow as well.

All that said - I think there are other area in much more of a need of updating - The Lost Continent needs to be addressed, Fear Factor stadium has been closed forever - yeah its used for HHN, but still wasted space the rest of the year.
We all know something has to happen with Simpsons.
Fast & Furious needs to be addressed IMO - should have always been a rollercoaster not that lame screen ride.
RRR - we all suspect that is gone at some point in the near future.
There are lots of rumors about Marvel recently - the same ones from the last 10 years - but I cant see it changing any time soon unless Disney is going to pay up.

So my thought is once Epic is up and running Universal has a lot they can do to make the existing parks better.
I suspect they can address half the things above before Disney finishes what they have promised.
 
I agree - but how many folks walk through there and have no idea who half of the characters are?
Popeye is a really well done and fun ride IMO and yeah it gets people - but I'm guessing many don't know much about the characters.

The burger at Wimpy's was the best burger I had on property - honestly better than the sit down places in City walk - but no one knows who Wimpy is.

Same for most of the other characters - Cathy, Beetle Baily, Family Circus, Blondie, Dudley Do-right, Hagar the Horrible - I remember them all and still have comics from many of them - but they are not really relevant anymore.

Just updating it to some more recent IP would probably be a boost to the area - even a small boost is better than no boost.

There is some sort of Stadium there as well I think so there is space to grow as well.

All that said - I think there are other area in much more of a need of updating - The Lost Continent needs to be addressed, Fear Factor stadium has been closed forever - yeah its used for HHN, but still wasted space the rest of the year.
We all know something has to happen with Simpsons.
Fast & Furious needs to be addressed IMO - should have always been a rollercoaster not that lame screen ride.
RRR - we all suspect that is gone at some point in the near future.
There are lots of rumors about Marvel recently - the same ones from the last 10 years - but I cant see it changing any time soon unless Disney is going to pay up.

So my thought is once Epic is up and running Universal has a lot they can do to make the existing parks better.
I suspect they can address half the things above before Disney finishes what they have promised.
Yeah, I get it. Few people know those characters anymore.

Totally agree that other areas need more attention, though. Most of the existing parks is pretty lame still. Don't know that they will get to it right away, though, after the massive investment that is EU. They may need time to recoup.
 
So my thought is once Epic is up and running Universal has a lot they can do to make the existing parks better.
I suspect they can address half the things above before Disney finishes what they have promised.
I agree. Regardless of what they do with the existing parks relative to what the attraction will be I don't think you'll see multiple years for a walk through attraction or 5 years for a clone attraction.
 
Yeah, I get it. Few people know those characters anymore.

Totally agree that other areas need more attention, though. Most of the existing parks is pretty lame still. Don't know that they will get to it right away, though, after the massive investment that is EU. They may need time to recoup.
I share this opinion. I feel like once EU opens, people will go to the 2 OG parks for Harry Potter, and not much else.
 

I share this opinion. I feel like once EU opens, people will go to the 2 OG parks for Harry Potter, and not much else.
A lot of people currently only go to the OG parks primarily for Harry Potter as it is. You can find people at the Orlando Airport asking how to get to "the Harry Potter park." But I hope if that trend continues with EU, that's just more of an incentive for Universal to fix the rest of the OG parks! Eventually, at least...
 
I just watched the video for Wolfman. The seat mechanism reminds me of Crush's Coaster at Disneyland Paris. It will be a hard pass for me although it's advertised as a family coaster.
My gut feeling is that Wolfman will be tamer than Crush, which sounds weird, but I was surprised about Crush. Tight turns, darkness. Wolfman is at least outdoors and doesn’t seem like it’ll be as intense. That said, Universal is REALLY trying to sell this as family friendly, and it’s probably just part of their attempt to sell Universal as a more complete WDW alternative. I can’t necessarily take that advertising at face value.
 
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Yeah - regardless of it being a family coaster - there will be folks that wont do it for the spin factor alone. As for the seating mechanism Ill need to take a look at it.
Sorry I meant the spinning mechanism of the seats. If it's anything similar to Crush I will gladly give it a pass.
 
Sorry I meant the spinning mechanism of the seats. If it's anything similar to Crush I will gladly give it a pass.
Yeah - I think that will be a common thing. With the issues with several of Universals restraint systems for larger folks I always wonder about that.

A lot of people currently only go to the OG parks primarily for Harry Potter as it is. You can find people at the Orlando Airport asking how to get to "the Harry Potter park." But I hope if that trend continues with EU, that's just more of an incentive for Universal to fix the rest of the OG parks! Eventually, at least...
Yeah - still amazes me that people do both parks in a day or a day and a half. I don't go to Universal for less than 5 or 6 days and usually do 10 - although I am thinking about a weekend here and there if the Airfare is so reasonable,

For now. Guessing after epic they will turn their attention to retheming lost continent and then Simpsons
Yes that makes the most sense no doubt.

Would be great if they could switch the ride back to BTTF even for a year - I cant imagine it would be that difficult - but not sure how the Simpsons contract works and what they might have to do to accomplish that - since its a short term thing they could just switch the video and update some software I assume. Don't think anyone would care if they left the rest as is for the year - other than contractual stuff.

There is also always the possibility they are making a Simpsons deal and give up Marvel - but I don't personally like that at all. I much prefer the classic marvel and with the new Wolverine movie being classic Marvel that seems like a plus for Universal. (I've not actually seen the move yet :( )
 
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I was worried they might open during the excruciating hot months of July or August. Memorial would be much better. Still hot, but not as much.
 
Tempted to book a trip in July but I’ve never been to Florida in summer and obviously have no idea what my tolerance for that heat would be like. I can’t imagine it being a lot of fun. It’s either that or I’d probably just hold off until November.
 
Tempted to book a trip in July but I’ve never been to Florida in summer and obviously have no idea what my tolerance for that heat would be like. I can’t imagine it being a lot of fun. It’s either that or I’d probably just hold off until November.

I've had May days that felt like July, August days, that felt like May. August days that REALLY felt like August days. It all depends. I personally don't think everything will even be open by July. Certain parts, yes but full experiences? Probably not
 
We have a trip planned for late aug/ early Sept all in the hopes that Epic will be open. We've been waiting on booking the hotel until the tickets were released or military hotel discounts released.
 
https://www.wsj.com/business/univer...-park-with-marquee-harry-potter-ride-d6e5113b

Universal Plans Early Summer Launch of New Park With Marquee Harry Potter Ride
Wizard-battle attraction is expected to be a major draw as Universal takes on Disney

By Robbie Whelan and Jacob Passy
Oct. 15, 2024 - 9:35 am EDT

Universal is readying its attack on Disney’s theme-park stronghold in Florida.

The company is planning for its 750-acre Universal Epic Universe park to be fully opened as early as Memorial Day weekend of next year—earlier than expected—with tickets on sale as soon as this month, according to people familiar with the matter.

If successful, Universal’s new park could be a major broadside in the theme-park wars, which have intensified in recent years as live entertainment has become more central to generating growth at big media companies like Comcast—Universal’s parent company—and Disney.

Universal said it hasn’t yet confirmed an opening date. The timing of the planned opening could change.

Meeting that Memorial Day target would enable Universal to take advantage of a full summer-vacation season and would be a coup in the company’s long-running rivalry with nearby Walt Disney World. Universal had long said the park was likely to open in summer 2025, though fans and theme-park-industry watchers grew worried earlier this year when the company rolled out a series of updates that listed the opening date as simply 2025.

In the early stages of the park’s opening, Universal plans to require that visitors purchase multiday passes in order to enter Epic Universe, travel agents briefed on the plans said. Those passes would also include admission to Universal’s other Orlando parks, including Universal Studios Florida, these agents said. Ticket holders would be able to spend only one of the days at Epic Universe, in part because demand is anticipated to be high and the company wants to avoid overcrowding, they said.

The approach could prod visitors into spending multiple days at Universal’s properties and make it harder for some visitors to justify buying passes to Disney’s parks during the same Florida trip, which is a common move for many families.

Universal Epic Universe could snatch about one million visitors from Disney during 2025 and 2026 and boost overall attendance at Universal’s three parks in the area by more than eight million, according to estimates made this year by MoffettNathanson.

“They want people there for more than a weekend,” said Jennifer St. Gelais, owner of Practically Perfect Vacations, a Massachusetts-based travel agency that has received updates from Universal about ticketing plans.

Both Universal and Disney have reported slowing growth in their theme-park divisions after an explosion of pent-up demand following the Covid-19 pandemic.

Revenue and income at Universal’s theme parks both fell in the second quarter from a year earlier, as many tourists were choosing to travel internationally or go on cruises instead of to theme parks, said Michael Cavanagh, president of Universal parent Comcast.

One of the most ambitious elements of Universal Epic Universe is a new Harry Potter-themed area set in the 1920s Paris of the Fantastic Beasts movies. The area is slated to include full-scale replicas of street facades.

The section is anchored by a new attraction based on the Ministry of Magic from the Harry Potter movies—a Capitol-type building of sorts for the wizarding world. Guests visiting the attraction, known as Harry Potter and the Battle at the Ministry, will ride in multidirectional elevator cars and watch as Potter and his wizard pals battle villain Dolores Umbridge and her allies, the Death Eaters, according to preview videos released by Universal and some of the people familiar with the plans.

The attraction is one of the most technically complex Universal has ever built, and seeks to compete on quality with the best rides in the world.

The Ministry of Magic ride is aimed to be what is known in the industry as an “intent-to-visit” attraction—a ride that visitors consider to be worth the price of admission just on its own—said Jim Hill, who runs a theme-park-industry publication and hosts several theme-park podcasts.“It’s a moonshot,” Hill said.

Epic Universe, which Comcast announced in 2019 and was delayed more than a year by the pandemic, is set to include Super Mario Bros. and How to Train Your Dragon themed areas in addition to Harry Potter. Two other areas will include attractions based on new characters and story lines: Celestial Universe—which has an outer-space theme—and Dark Universe, based on monsters from classic movies like “Frankenstein” and “The Wolf Man.”

Universal is hoping that tourists at Epic Universe will be drawn in by large-scale, marquee attractions, like the Donkey Kong roller coaster in Super Nintendo World. That area builds on the success of Universal Pictures’ and Illumination’s “The Super Mario Bros. Movie,” which was last year’s highest-grossing animated film, earning $1.36 billion at the global box office.

In August, Disney announced a slew of new rides and expansions to its Florida theme parks that theme park chief Josh D’Amaro described as finalized ideas that would all eventually be built, rather than “blue sky” ideas that are still in the conceptual stage. He described one such expansion as the biggest “in the park’s entire history.”

More recently, Disney has announced promotions at its Florida parks that extend through the early part of next year’s summer season, including a low-price water park pass and $200-a-night hotel discounts for visitors who buy park passes in packages that include stays at Disney-owned hotels.

Disney Chief Executive Bob Iger said at a May investor conference that when Universal expanded in the past, it brought more visitors to Orlando.

“It’s not something that should be distracting to us or anxiety-provoking,” Iger said of Universal’s new park.

Write to Robbie Whelan at robbie.whelan@wsj.com and Jacob Passy at jacob.passy@wsj.com
 
Tempted to book a trip in July but I’ve never been to Florida in summer and obviously have no idea what my tolerance for that heat would be like. I can’t imagine it being a lot of fun. It’s either that or I’d probably just hold off until November.

If you aren't sure what your tolerance for heat is, I would wait until November. If you do not have to travel during peak season for families, especially families who do not want to pull their children out of school for a trip, November might be better. Also, November gives Epic Universe a chance to figure out any problems/issues and possibly correct or fix them by November.
 












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