Universal announces details on diagon alley

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Today UOR had a live webcast open to everyone to watch as they announced new details on the diagon alley expansion. They showed off new concept art and renderings. They talked about the different shops, restaurants and attractions that would be in diagon alley. The gringotts ride is supposed to be thrilling but not as thrilling as the ride in WWoHP. The Hogarth express was also a topic of discussion as they discussed how that would be a major attraction and that you will need a two park lass in order to ride.

http://blog.wdwinfo.com/2014/01/23/the-wizarding-world-of-harry-potter-diagon-alley-live-webcast/

What do you guys think? Will this be a huge hit? Will you go? How will Disney respond? Will Disney respond?
 
Looks great thanks.
 
The art looks beautiful. I look forward to visiting and trying the Gringotts ride and the train... but it seems a but heavy on the shopping...
 
The theming looks quite good, and merchandise will be unique. The train compartments in the webcast are cool. Gringots is supposed to be a family ride so that will be fun to see how that turns out.

I want to walk through knock turn alley.
 

I can't wait to see how Diagon Alley compares to the version from the Studio Tour. This is going to be awesome! :cool1:
 
yep. Two park pass needed. Apparently they will make everyone leave the train when it reaches its destination (no round trips), so you must have admission to the other park.
 
I watched it. We have a week long stay there in September (our first ever Orlando trip not on WDW property in fact).

Overall these were my impressions:

1. Universal is continuing to improve on their theming and detail work. The Gringott's Vault room they did the presentation from was really interesting to look at.

2. The fellow dressed as a Gringott's goblin who kept shuffling across in back was a crackup. At least, I assume he was really there, and it wasn't a screen projection; the video wasn't HD and he was largely hidden by the speakers so yeah. I found myself hoping they have goblins in the bank as permanent cast members when DA opens - I want my picture with a bank goblin. :)

3. The Neville kid grew up and totally changed...? Some of those actors have changed a lot, and some still look exactly the same (the Weasley twin actor, aside from the darker hair).

4. The girl who played Luna is an awful lot like her character.

5. The inside of the Hogwarts Express looked as true as could be. The only thing I found myself wondering was how many people they can fit on that train per ride. That could end up being quite the line.

6. The concept art looks wonderful, and I hope the real thing lives up to it. Since they did a pretty good job with Hogsmeade, I expect the London side will be even better, now that they have the confidence to know HP is successful there and some practice at it.

7. I'm glad they are opening an Ollivanders' over in DA. I don't know if they are closing the Hogsmeade one, but a new one in DA that holds a lot more people will be nice.

8. Personally I'm glad about all the shops. I don't want to go into HP land and just ride a ride and leave. I want to hang out and feel like I'm there; having a lot of streets and shops will help that feeling of immersion. The variety of shops seems like it will be good.

9. Leaky Cauldron - I was hoping to see pictures or footage, but all they showed was a clip from the movie. But it will be there for dining, as with the Three Broomsticks. I hope it has a unique and different menu than TB.

10. Florean Fortescue's Ice Cream Parlor - only shown as concept art but yay!

11. They didn't provide many details about the Knight Bus, only to say one would be there - not a ride I'm guessing but some sort of interactive thing maybe. Honestly I was hoping they would turn the Knight Bus into a variable ride simulator like Star Tours (seriously how fun would that be, ripping around London with the shrunken Dre Head as your guide?! :rotfl:).

12. Glad they are redoing the Hogsmeade candy store. Too crowded and small. Also hoping that spreading the merchandise types out between different dedicated stores helps make it possible to see more of it. Looking at all the Zonko toys and wizarding candy imagined real was part of the fun of IoA Hogsmeade, regardless of whether you bought any of it.

13. Disappointed that they're only adding 2 attractions (the train and the bank) and reproducing 1 existing attraction (Ollivander's). They really should have added 1 or 2 more attractions to DA. They did say they were still keeping a few secrets, and those buildings could be hiding something, I suppose.

14. Gringott's Bank ride. Yay!

15. I expected more "real" photos of completed site work and information than they provided. I'm not sure why they even did this today, except that they have that HP weekend event going on right now and the actors were conveniently in town for it. They didn't really announce anything we didn't already know about - I mean we all knew there was a bank ride, a train ride, the Leaky Cauldron, and of course there would be shopping.

Almost expected a date announcement, but then realized they won't do it for a couple of reasons. First, what if construction delays run them late; and second, they don't want to cannibalize attendance 2nd quarter. I see plenty of people who are booking for June and "hoping". If they put out a date, and it's July, their parks will be much more empty in June because everyone who can easily postpone their trips will postpone, as long as they're not inside costly cancellation windows and such. In light of all that I wouldn't be surprised to only have 30-60 days notice of the official opening date.
 
I watched it. We have a week long stay there in September (our first ever Orlando trip not on WDW property in fact).

Overall these were my impressions:

1. Universal is continuing to improve on their theming and detail work. The Gringott's Vault room they did the presentation from was really interesting to look at.

2. The fellow dressed as a Gringott's goblin who kept shuffling across in back was a crackup. At least, I assume he was really there, and it wasn't a screen projection; the video wasn't HD and he was largely hidden by the speakers so yeah. I found myself hoping they have goblins in the bank as permanent cast members when DA opens - I want my picture with a bank goblin. :)

3. The Neville kid grew up and totally changed...? Some of those actors have changed a lot, and some still look exactly the same (the Weasley twin actor, aside from the darker hair).

4. The girl who played Luna is an awful lot like her character.

5. The inside of the Hogwarts Express looked as true as could be. The only thing I found myself wondering was how many people they can fit on that train per ride. That could end up being quite the line.

6. The concept art looks wonderful, and I hope the real thing lives up to it. Since they did a pretty good job with Hogsmeade, I expect the London side will be even better, now that they have the confidence to know HP is successful there and some practice at it.

7. I'm glad they are opening an Ollivanders' over in DA. I don't know if they are closing the Hogsmeade one, but a new one in DA that holds a lot more people will be nice.

8. Personally I'm glad about all the shops. I don't want to go into HP land and just ride a ride and leave. I want to hang out and feel like I'm there; having a lot of streets and shops will help that feeling of immersion. The variety of shops seems like it will be good.

9. Leaky Cauldron - I was hoping to see pictures or footage, but all they showed was a clip from the movie. But it will be there for dining, as with the Three Broomsticks. I hope it has a unique and different menu than TB.

10. Florean Fortescue's Ice Cream Parlor - only shown as concept art but yay!

11. They didn't provide many details about the Knight Bus, only to say one would be there - not a ride I'm guessing but some sort of interactive thing maybe. Honestly I was hoping they would turn the Knight Bus into a variable ride simulator like Star Tours (seriously how fun would that be, ripping around London with the shrunken Dre Head as your guide?! :rotfl:).

12. Glad they are redoing the Hogsmeade candy store. Too crowded and small. Also hoping that spreading the merchandise types out between different dedicated stores helps make it possible to see more of it. Looking at all the Zonko toys and wizarding candy imagined real was part of the fun of IoA Hogsmeade, regardless of whether you bought any of it.

13. Disappointed that they're only adding 2 attractions (the train and the bank) and reproducing 1 existing attraction (Ollivander's). They really should have added 1 or 2 more attractions to DA. They did say they were still keeping a few secrets, and those buildings could be hiding something, I suppose.

14. Gringott's Bank ride. Yay!

15. I expected more "real" photos of completed site work and information than they provided. I'm not sure why they even did this today, except that they have that HP weekend event going on right now and the actors were conveniently in town for it. They didn't really announce anything we didn't already know about - I mean we all knew there was a bank ride, a train ride, the Leaky Cauldron, and of course there would be shopping.

Almost expected a date announcement, but then realized they won't do it for a couple of reasons. First, what if construction delays run them late; and second, they don't want to cannibalize attendance 2nd quarter. I see plenty of people who are booking for June and "hoping". If they put out a date, and it's July, their parks will be much more empty in June because everyone who can easily postpone their trips will postpone, as long as they're not inside costly cancellation windows and such. In light of all that I wouldn't be surprised to only have 30-60 days notice of the official opening date.

5. Each train can hold up to 168 guests (8 per cabin X 7 cabins per car X 3 cars per train). So even with a 10 minutes cycle time that would be 168 per train X 2 trains X 6 cycles per our = 2016 per hour and I have heard that the number will be even higher then that.
 
5. Each train can hold up to 168 guests (8 per cabin X 7 cabins per car X 3 cars per train). So even with a 10 minutes cycle time that would be 168 per train X 2 trains X 6 cycles per our = 2016 per hour and I have heard that the number will be even higher then that.

Hm. I was really hoping they could do better with the riders per hour throughput than say, the WDW mountains. To compare with rough estimates for the mountains...

Space Mountain: 2100-2500 per hour (with both sides running)
Thunder Mountain: 2400 per hour (with both sides running)
Splash Mountain: 1500 per hour
Matterhorn: 1500 per hour

Those are going to be some crazy crazy waits to ride that train...
 
Hm. I was really hoping they could do better with the riders per hour throughput than say, the WDW mountains. To compare with rough estimates for the mountains...

Space Mountain: 2100-2500 per hour (with both sides running)
Thunder Mountain: 2400 per hour (with both sides running)
Splash Mountain: 1500 per hour
Matterhorn: 1500 per hour

Those are going to be some crazy crazy waits to ride that train...

Well it sounds like it will have better numbers then any of those. As I said that number is just my estimate, a reliable source has said that they are pushing for a higher number.
 
Well it sounds like it will have better numbers then any of those. As I said that number is just my estimate, a reliable source has said that they are pushing for a higher number.

I hope so! :)

Not least because I want to ride it a bunch... pixiedust:

Also, I saw an article today that I believe was written by a press person who was there this last weekend, and saw some of the in progress areas. The article said that the Leaky Cauldron menu was under development with a chef, and that there was a trip to Scotland in April to get Rowling's approval on the dishes. So it sounds like at least some, if not all, of the menu will be different selections than what is available at Three Broomsticks.
 
How will Disney respond? Will Disney respond?

Disney will respond to the opening of this magnificent expansion via Iger throwing out more generalized, unspecific "teasers" that Disney may add "Star Wars" something or other somewhere at sometime.

Oh, and the Avatar apostles here will go on and on about how the still unwritten supposed sequels to that Dancing with Wolves ripoff will create a massive interest in the land Disney is opening years...and years...and years from now.

Meanwhile, attendance at Universal will explode this summer....;)
 
Disney will respond to the opening of this magnificent expansion via Iger throwing out more generalized, unspecific "teasers" that Disney may add "Star Wars" something or other somewhere at sometime. Oh, and the Avatar apostles here will go on and on about how the still unwritten supposed sequels to that Dancing with Wolves ripoff will create a massive interest in the land Disney is opening years...and years...and years from now. Meanwhile, attendance at Universal will explode this summer....;)
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