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[pigletgirl]

People interpret things wrong or read into something too much. Frankly its silly to be so upset over something somebody said via internet.

 

[kjs1976]

People interpret things wrong or read into something too much. Frankly its silly to be so upset over something somebody said via internet.

This is, of course, IYHO pigletgirl...

I agree with the OP. When I joined the Dis 9 years ago, it was never this bad. Only in the last year or two has it gotten self-righteous and rude.

I joined the Dis because people were kind and didn't post all the comments OP made a laundry list of. I belonged to other Disney boards, but pretty much abandoned them and stuck withe the Dis. Now I feel I need to be wary when I post or at least know I'm going to get a few rude ones and to ignore them.

Agreed, OP, and well said!

 

["Got Disney"]

People interpret things wrong or read into something too much. Frankly its silly to be so upset over something somebody said via internet.

True...however when someone posts something that they want help or advise with because they are upset.....the last thing they need is a poster or more posting with a really nasty attitude even if they dont agree with what they have to say...

common curtosy is important not only in person but on a board.

just because one is on a board does not mean it is okay to bully another.

We are not talking about debating politics where things can surely get nasty....I know I am on many political boards and we have seen how this was getting annoying here on the DIS when it was allowed here....
When you enter a board like that you know that you need to enter with your ar gear on.....

But this is an information board....about Disney and the like.....there is a big difference....at least IMO.

But hey...I have better things to do than to come here and insult someone just because my opinion is different....call me crazy if ya want and no doubt some of you will

 

[rie'smom]

This is, of course, IYHO pigletgirl...

I agree with the OP. When I joined the Dis 9 years ago, it was never this bad. Only in the last year or two has it gotten self-righteous and rude.

I joined the Dis because people were kind and didn't post all the comments OP made a laundry list of. I belonged to other Disney boards, but pretty much abandoned them and stuck withe the Dis. Now I feel I need to be wary when I post or at least know I'm going to get a few rude ones and to ignore them.

Agreed, OP, and well said!

I've been on the boards for 7 years ( lost my first ID) and have seen PLENTY of rude replies since day 1. IMO, the replies are no worse nor more numerous since I joined the DIS.

 

[maxiesmom]

I agree with the OP. When I joined the Dis 9 years ago, it was never this bad. Only in the last year or two has it gotten self-righteous and rude.

When I joined the Dis many years ago, I don't remember there being so many posts by people wanting validation for doing things they knew were wrong. And now there seems to be those kinds of posts on almost a daily basis. Maybe that is adding to the hostile environment on both sides?

Can I use someone else's pass? No. Don't you know how much money I am spending on this trip? Disney should be glad I am going at all, and you are a a mean, nasty person for telling me no!

Is it ok if I have 10 people in my villa? No, that villa is only supposed to hold 8. Who cares, they won't catch me anyway!

The best ones lately have been people posting polls, and then arguing with people who have a point of view that they don't agree with.

These boards would be much more friendly if people:

A: Didn't ask a question about doing something they already know is wrong.
B: Didn't ask people their opinions, and then argue with them when they don't agree with them.

 

[AKL_Megs]

I don't care what anyone on here says...

DON'T use my DECORATIVE TOWELS!

 

[rie'smom]

When I joined the Dis many years ago, I don't remember there being so many posts by people wanting validation for doing things they knew were wrong. And now there seems to be those kinds of posts on almost a daily basis. Maybe that is adding to the hostile environment on both sides?

Can I use someone else's pass? No. Don't you know how much money I am spending on this trip? Disney should be glad I am going at all, and you are a a mean, nasty person for telling me no!

Is it ok if I have 10 people in my villa? No, that villa is only supposed to hold 8. Who cares, they won't catch me anyway!

The best ones lately have been people posting polls, and then arguing with people who have a point of view that they don't agree with.

These boards would be much more friendly if people:

A: Didn't ask a question about doing something they already know is wrong.
B: Didn't ask people their opinions, and then argue with them when they don't agree with them.

"A friend met up with a guy she dated in college. Sparks flew.They started texting each other and now they want to meet. Both are married with kids. Is this ok?" Everyone says no. The OP defends said friend. A few pages later surprise, the "friend" is the OP who is now angry that everyone said what they thought, so he/she takes their toys and goes home. These are the posts that kill me.
Some threads have me shaking my head because why on Earth would anyone ask a bunch of strangers for marital or medical advice.

 

[phorsenuf]

These boards would be much more friendly if people:

A: Didn't ask a question about doing something they already know is wrong.
B: Didn't ask people their opinions, and then argue with them when they don't agree with them.

But they wouldn't be as fun.

 

[LilyWDW]

When I joined the Dis many years ago, I don't remember there being so many posts by people wanting validation for doing things they knew were wrong. And now there seems to be those kinds of posts on almost a daily basis. Maybe that is adding to the hostile environment on both sides?

Can I use someone else's pass? No. Don't you know how much money I am spending on this trip? Disney should be glad I am going at all, and you are a a mean, nasty person for telling me no!

Is it ok if I have 10 people in my villa? No, that villa is only supposed to hold 8. Who cares, they won't catch me anyway!

The best ones lately have been people posting polls, and then arguing with people who have a point of view that they don't agree with.

These boards would be much more friendly if people:

A: Didn't ask a question about doing something they already know is wrong.
B: Didn't ask people their opinions, and then argue with them when they don't agree with them.

And a LOT of this would be stopped if people read stickies and took a few days to just READ. Within a week it is easy to figure out what the hot button issues are and that it is against policy here to post about getting around Disney's rules. If people would follow the rules, do a little homework by reading stickies, and reading before posting. I was on these boards for about 6 months before I actually joined and made my first post. By then I had read all the informative stickies and found out that some topics are just NOT good to post (refillable mugs, room occupancy, anti stroller/wheelchair/scooter, ect).

I think some posters on this thread are looking at different things as well. Myself, I am thinking about the posts where OPs ask about breaking the rules, post a long winded post about whatever and then don't like the answers, and hot button issues. If you ask about breaking occupancy laws/rules, then expect some rough answers. If you are going to post about taking your kids out of school, expect some people not to agree with you.

Others, I think are talking about some posters on here who personally attack others (had that happen to me recently while defending another poster being attacked), giving answers that have no meaning/no point to the thread, or just trying to stir the pot. This is shown in the post in the Theme Park section mentioned earlier. I think even those of us who don't agree with the OP here will admit there are posters on this board (really, on any board I have ever been a part of) who like to start trouble and be jerks.

 

[Wonders10]

The one the OP missed that is my favourite is the use of the smilie. Apparently when you flame another poster for 3 paragraphs, it's all OK and we are all friends because you put the at the end. Where did that come from .

I can't believe how dumb and uneducated you are to not know that!!!

Totally j/k...your post actually did make me laugh out loud. I see it ALL the time. Rude comments + = kumbaya.

 

[maxiesmom]

Totally j/k...your post actually did make me laugh out loud. I see it ALL the time. Rude comments + = kumbaya.

That must be the on line equivilant of going "Bless her heart" after you say something mean. "Poor thing is so stupid, she can't tie her shoes without help. Bless her heart!"

 

[Lanshark]

I'm assuming that you never experienced the debate board

 

[drag n' fly]

So pretty much everything on DisBoards ...

 

[PixieDustandEeyore]

I remember reading on the resort board someone asked how much milk was as they planned to have breakfast in their room and people attacked them saying if they need to have breakfast in the room they shouldnt stay at the boardwalk. I was highly amused how a simple question became a multiple person attack.

I enjoyed your initial post and Megs Im stealing your decorative towels

 

[maxiesmom]

I remember reading on the resort board someone asked how much milk was as they planned to have breakfast in their room and people attacked them saying if they need to have breakfast in the room they shouldnt stay at the boardwalk. I was highly amused how a simple question became a multiple person attack.

That is silly.

I was just told by another poster to go back to the Transportation Board where I (apparently) belong, as I dared to answer what was a transportation related question on the resorts board. A poster was upset that they would have to pay a change fee to change the date on their non-refundable ticket. Which is typical. When a couple of us pointed that out, I was singled out and told to go back and post where I belong.

I understand that it is easy to blame the airline for every little thing that goes wrong, but sometimes, it is not their fault. How can people spend hundreds of dollars on an airline ticket and not know what that gets them?

 

[Eeyore'sthebest]

Heck this is part of the fun of the Dis.

I was on a weight loss surgery board and this one poster got so bad that I actually stopped reading the entire board. She had never had WLS but was scheduled for it 6 months down the road. She answered every post (with multiple responses) with advice and guidance based off of what she had read!!! Yep, I can read a book and different websites but actually going through the experience is entirely different. However, she had so insinuated herself into the board that the older posters thought she was fabulous even if some of the advice she gave was incorrect. So whenever I said something I always got "Well she's just trying to be helpful." I did stick around just long enough for her to have her own surgery and start posting with "Wow this is harder than I thought" I left after that. Couldn't take it any longer.

 

[bicker]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";37721112]We are not talking about debating politics where things can surely get nasty...[/QUOTE]Perhaps, but thinking about it deeper, I think the reality is that everything for which reasonable people disagree work just like politics. While it was politics and religion, specifically, that aren't permitted here, the reality is that the core of the quandary is actually disagreement. It is only a matter of how passionate the disagreement is. Politics and religion just tend to always be on the high-side with regard to passion, but they are no where near the only aspects of reasonable disagreement that evoke strong passion.

The fact that we're talking about a vacation resort does not mean that passions cannot possibly run high. The issues raised are only very rarely about the content of the attractions, the comfort of the beds, or the taste of the food. In discussing WDW, discussions very often run into matters that transcend the creative.

1) People are spending big money for these vacations, so many discussions are going to be driven to matters of trade, marketing, economics, commerce, offer and acceptance, provision and delivery, terms and conditions, promises and expectation.

2) The nature of a vacation resort, and the means to get to and from it, are such that people are necessarily interacting with others, in a manner other than their typical day-to-day. That brings another large set of conflict points into the discussion, such as the sharing of a limited offering, the obligations to others that may degrade one's own experience, competition for scarce offerings, fair allocation, priority and primacy.

While I agree that it is pretty silly to get upset about someone liking pizza more than pasta, that's not the only type of discussion we have here. And while I agree that it is silly to allow even passionate disagreement on any of the issues I've listed above to drive you to get personal with someone else, it does seems that there are enough people on each side of every issue so that there will always be someone frustrated enough with seeing an opposing viewpoint voiced that they will stoop to polluting the pool. We have no choice but to live with it, because there is really no way to force everyone to accept that reasonable people can disagree.

 

[bicker]

When I joined the Dis many years ago, I don't remember there being so many posts by people wanting validation for doing things they knew were wrong.

Part of that is because the Internet has prompted so much discussion about how to be exploit and abuse service providers, that so many more people have come to the conclusion that such conduct is acceptable.

And now there seems to be those kinds of posts on almost a daily basis. Maybe that is adding to the hostile environment on both sides?

I do think that this issue has escalated, not necessarily just online, but rather in society overall as well. There seems to be a much more pronounced "Give Me" perspective that is prevailing over society now. It makes sense. The generation that is beginning to dominate the marketplace was called the "Me Generation" and while I was originally pretty skeptical about applying that label so early, it does seem to apply.

We end up with really two clashes: (1) The clash between "us" (meaning the Baby Boomers Generation) with our values and "them" (meaning the Me Generation) with their values; and (2) The clash within the Me Generation between those who embrace and live the "what's good for me" approach, and those who hold to more "what's good for society" perspectives.

Can I use someone else's pass? No. Don't you know how much money I am spending on this trip? Disney should be glad I am going at all, and you are a a mean, nasty person for telling me no!

Is it ok if I have 10 people in my villa? No, that villa is only supposed to hold 8. Who cares, they won't catch me anyway!

The best ones lately have been people posting polls, and then arguing with people who have a point of view that they don't agree with.

These boards would be much more friendly if people:

A: Didn't ask a question about doing something they already know is wrong.
B: Didn't ask people their opinions, and then argue with them when they don't agree with them.

 

[Carly_Roach]

I've been on the boards for 7 years ( lost my first ID) and have seen PLENTY of rude replies since day 1. IMO, the replies are no worse nor more numerous since I joined the DIS.

I agree.

People interpret things wrong or read into something too much. Frankly its silly to be so upset over something somebody said via internet.

And I agree again.

[QUOTE="Got Disney";37721112]But this is an information board....about Disney and the like.....there is a big difference....at least IMO. [/QUOTE] And I'm willing to bet that if people frequent the other forums (the whole reason this board exists), 90% of the time their posts about resorts, travel techniques, tickets, touring, etc will be answered quickly, helpfully and cheerfully.

It seems to me that we get these "Can't we all just get along?" posts every month or so on the CB, to which I have to respond, "Stop spending all your time on the CB and you'll see plenty of positive, upbeat, cheerful people in the other forums." The entire DIS can't be lumped into just the CB. The entire board IS all about trip planning and the CB is merely a very small subset of the DIS community (as it should be).

To give some perspective to all this: If you're spending most of your time at the arcade at the Contemporary Resort (the CB) and never venture out into the rest of the World (the rest of the DIS), then you can't really complain when there are occasional fights, differences of opinions and strong words being heard at the arcade (the CB) and use that experience to say that all of WDW (the DIS) must be like that so you're going to pick up your dolls and go home.

If/when that's the case, I believe WDW (the DIS) shouldn't really be all that concerned about losing their 'arcade only' (CB only) patrons because those customers were never really interested in visiting the parks (the rest of the board) at all; they just want to hang out at the arcade (the CB) and try to run the rest of the park (the DIS) with their complaints from the arcade.

 

[usnuzuloose]

As reading more of this post, I got to thinking about something I read, and how it really began to move me and my heart. I would like to post this story, and in doing so I am not in any way saying anything bad about anyone. In fact I will rewrite it on my own computer and hang it on my fridg so I may read it everyday and remind to not hurt anyone with what I say or do.

There once was a llittle boy who had a bad temper... His father gave hime a bag full of nails and told him that every time he lost his temper, he must hammer a nail into the back of the fence.

The first day the boy had driven 37 nails in the fence... over the next few weeks as he learned to control his temper, the number of nails hammered daily gradually dwindled down. He discovered it was easier to hold his temper than drive nails in to the fence.

Finally the day came when the boy didnt lose his temper at all. He told his father about it, and the father suggested that the boy pull out one nail for each day that he was able to hold his temper.

The days passed and the young boy was finally able to tell his father that all the nails were gone. The father took his son by the hand and led him to the fence, and said you have done well my son, but look at the holes in the fence. The fence will never be the same. When you say things in anger, they leave a scar just like this one.

You can put a knife in a man and draw it out but it wont matter how many times you say I'm sorry the wound will still be there. A verbal wound is as bad as a physical one.

Remember that friends are very rare jewels indeed. They make you smile and encourage you to succeed. They lend an ear, they share words of praise and they alway want to open our hearts to us.


So with that said, please forgive me if I ever said anything to one of you that was not right or made you feel horrible. May my words be uplifting to all. Thanks for reading this. Jo