Un-Disney-like Behavior

[jeast]

Fey,

Wow.

You've had a hard time, I see. I'm sorry for what you went through. No one should have to deal with that. It sounds like you attended a school district that was out of control and suffered badly for it.

I never asked you to conform to a narrow-minded Christian viewpoint. I actually supported your argument but pointed out your anger. Why are you angry with me?

I'm not big on the whole psycho-babble thing, but you're anger is spilling out at the seams and being transferred onto things that are just not that important (such as a dis-discussion).

For your own sake, I hope you find some way to find healing and forgiveness (I'm not ultra-Christian either, so don't envision me waving a Bible at you). As many nasty people as are out there, there are nice ones, too.

Best of luck to you,
Jennifer

 

[fey_spirit]

Well apparently, it's Disney behavior to trash someone for thinking diffrently then you do... boy Walt would love this. I made one post defending an adults right to speak as they choose and I get villafied... but hey that's tottaly Disney worthy behavior right?

It's supposed to be Un-Disney-like behavior, not a persons rights and freedoms isn't it?

 

[fey_spirit]

And thus the reason the internet is so extremly limited.
I'm not angry with you, yest I am little angry with the people who did those things to me - but I'm not angry with you. I'm sorry if somehow that message was conveyed, because it isn't true. I respect you a lot more then a lot of the folks who have responded to this thus far.

And I will admit this whole thread has angered me a little. It's perfectly acceptable for someone to call me the most selfish person on Dis (Never mind folks who watch child abuse and walk away, never mind parents who think it's ok to force complete strangers to stand in line with a screaming child because it's what's best for their family, and so forth and so on.) It's ok for someone to basically call me an uneducated moron... and to flat out attack me when all I said was that we all have to deal with things we don't like from other people when in a public place... attcking me for that is socialy acceptable... but using a few swear words when talking to my friends even in a public place makes me public enemy number one? Yeah that kind of pisses me off.

Fey,

Wow.

You've had a hard time, I see. I'm sorry for what you went through. No one should have to deal with that. It sounds like you attended a school district that was out of control and suffered badly for it.

I never asked you to conform to a narrow-minded Christian viewpoint. I actually supported your argument but pointed out your anger. Why are you angry with me?

I'm not big on the whole psycho-babble thing, but you're anger is spilling out at the seams and being transferred onto things that are just not that important (such as a dis-discussion).

For your own sake, I hope you find some way to find healing and forgiveness (I'm not ultra-Christian either, so don't envision me waving a Bible at you). As many nasty people as are out there, there are nice ones, too.

Best of luck to you,
Jennifer

 

[Boncho]

Well apparently, it's Disney behavior to trash someone for thinking diffrently then you do... boy Walt would love this. I made one post defending an adults right to speak as they choose and I get villafied... but hey that's tottaly Disney worthy behavior right?

Hey, chill out. I don't think it's Disney behavior, and I don't think it's right for them to jump all over you just because you didn't agree with them. I was just wanting people to get back on the topic instead of the nastiness that was going on. Your response to my post was no better than their response to yours. Maybe everybody should just sit back and take a deep breath?

 

[fey_spirit]

I'm sorry (No sarcasam) based upon the content of your post (which adressed only someone defending their rights) I justafibly (I think) thought you were adressing only me and reacted accordingly. Apparently I was wrong, so I apologize. And I promise, the moment they stop attacking me I'll back off...

At this point I just want it to be over, but I wont just stand here and be kicked either.

Hey, chill out. I don't think it's Disney behavior, and I don't think it's right for them to jump all over you just because you didn't agree with them. I was just wanting people to get back on the topic instead of the nastiness that was going on. Your response to my post was no better than their response to yours. Maybe everybody should just sit back and take a deep breath?

 

[Boncho]

I'm sorry (No sarcasam) based upon the content of your post (which adressed only someone defending their rights) I justafibly (I think) thought you were adressing only me and reacted accordingly. Apparently I was wrong, so I apologize. And I promise, the moment they stop attacking me I'll back off...

At this point I just want it to be over, but I wont just stand here and be kicked either.

Apology accepted

 

[BamaTigger]

BACK TO THE ORIGINAL TOPIC!


Sometimes it irrates me to see a CM not smile or really rude!

 

[fey_spirit]

One question I forgot to ask though, what exactly do you think I need forgivness for?

Fey,
For your own sake, I hope you find some way to find healing and forgiveness (I'm not ultra-Christian either, so don't envision me waving a Bible at you). As many nasty people as are out there, there are nice ones, too.

Best of luck to you,
Jennifer

 

[fey_spirit]

Hey, I don't mind not smileing - we can all have those kinds of days...
But those CMs at Six Flags (do you realize that's what they call themselves now? At least according to one of the workers running the tin lizzies) really take the ****y prize.

I mean, not smileing sure ok...
But completely blowing off a guest, and ignoring a question so they can go on talking to their friends? I mean what do they think this is, Universal (JK tottaly JK... about Universal anyway).

BACK TO THE ORIGINAL TOPIC!


Sometimes it irrates me to see a CM not smile or really rude!

 

[fey_spirit]

Ok the timeing of the below is just Ironic... it really wasn't meant as a curse word... in this context it has a completly diffrent meaning...

Hey, I don't mind not smileing - we can all have those kinds of days...
But those CMs at Six Flags (do you realize that's what they call themselves now? At least according to one of the workers running the tin lizzies) really take the ****y prize.

I mean, not smileing sure ok...
But completely blowing off a guest, and ignoring a question so they can go on talking to their friends? I mean what do they think this is, Universal (JK tottaly JK... about Universal anyway).

 

[BamaTigger]

OK....this thread aint fun no more. Im leaving this one alone!

 

[kimmikayb]

The argument is I got flat out personally attacked for advocating my right to express myself as I see fit, and have been defending myself since.
Ok, and I can respect your reaction to my choice of words... just like I will defend my right to use the, I will defend your right to ignore the person using them, and I will respect your opinion that it lessens my message. So far, so good.

Actually my anger with society started long before I knew I was gay. It started in Jr High when I had to walk through a gym every morning while the socially acceptable people threw books, and rocks, and pencils and everything else they could find at me. And while the teachers turned a blind eye. It happened when they mocked me, threw gum in my hair, tried to force me at knife point to crawl into a class room, and the only thing the teacher would do (because she was scared of them too), was not count me as tardy if I stood my ground and didn't get to come into the room until after the bell forced the kids to take their seats. Why? Becausee I was fat and ugly and didn't fit in.

My anger continued when the most socially acceptable person in my building decided to use my head like a basketball against the concrete parking lot because she found out I was a witch. Then continued when a couple of socially acceptable Christans tried to stone me because I was holding hands outside the church when they came out with a young woman who wasn't even my lover... just a freind going through a hard time.

My anger grew further when I realized that half of this country thinks it's perfectly acceptable to write discrimination against me into the constitution. When I realized that if I went against even the most petty rules or morals of the church - but that the church encouraged folks to use the Bible to support hatered of me, and people who were diffrent then them.

I gave up - I can't be like them...
I don't want to be like them...
I think that the things that they turn a blind eye to, the things that they activly support make them far worse then a handful of explitives could ever make me.

I think issues with you are much deeper then swearing in front of children. I think I'll just keep my kids far, far away from you. You've now become the people who you say turned you into the person you are today. You seem to blame society for all your problems. Can't possibly be your ability to cope?

Swearing is very much, un Disney like behavior. I am 40 years old and I don't like to hear it. If you can't respect the fact that children don't need to hear it at Disney, respect the fact that there are adults who don't want to hear it.

If more people would start caring about the world around them, instead of themselves and "their rights" to do whatever they want....it would be a much better world and things would improve for everyone.

 

[Zoie]

Back to the original topic.....

This actually happened in Disneyland, but same difference for this story...

We were at Tom Sawyer Island waiting for the ferry to come back and take us back to the park. It was a hot day and there was an umbrella there for shade and it was the ONLY shady spot. Half of the shade from the umbrella was behind the rope and the other half in front of the rope. My friend and I were the first ones to the dock and we immediately occupied the shady spot behind the rope. A couple minutes later, two teenage girls and a boy about 9 or 10 walked up. The girls stood behind the rope in the sun for a minute, then crossed the rope and stood where the umbrella shade was.

Perfectly understandable, it was hot, it was the only shady spot available, and it was just BARELY over the rope, still far from the water's edge. The boy however crossed the rope with them and was just wandering around all over the dock, standing on the edge looking at the water, etc. Meanwhile, others began to congregate behind the rope and the ferry was on its way over.

The boy was wearing a Spiderman shirt, and as soon as the ferry was within shouting distance, the cast member on the ferry shouted nicely, "Hey Spiderman, get behind the rope!" He said nothing to the girls, but when he spoke to the boy, they quickly got behind the rope anyway.

The boy did not. Again the cast member, with the ferry now approaching the dock right where the boy was standing, said, "Hey, Spiderman -- get behind the rope before you get hurt!"

The boy did so. A woman standing there as the ferry docked put her hands on the boy's shoulders and said in a nasty tone to the cast member, "Don't tell him what to do -- he is MY responsibility."

The cast member looked at her in disbelief for a second, but responded very nicely and politely, "It's my responsibility to ensure that park rules are followed."

The woman again nastily said, "No, you don't understand -- HE is MY responsibility."

The cast member just let everyone on the boat and didn't respond. We made sure to let him know that we were appalled by that woman's behavior and thought he handled it amazingly well. The child was of course standing there smirking the entire time the woman spoke.

Great, lady -- let's teach your kid that he doesn't HAVE to obey people in authority and the rules don't apply to him... and what do you think she'd be doing if that kid fell off the dock or was injured by the boat landing because he wasn't behind the rope like he was supposed to be? Sue Disney, I'm sure -- no longer would he be HER responsibility, I'm sure...!!

 

[fey_spirit]

I tell you what, you do as someone suggested earlier and walk a mile in my moccasins... if after that you don't grock why I'm a little pissed off at society, and still think it's all my fault because I didn't cope real well by being repeatedly humilated, beaten and battered... then we can talk.

I'm sorry I'm 32 and I don't mind hearing it, exactly what makes you more important then me? Yeah because cursing, and slamming someones head into the ground until they have to go to the hospital are exactly the same thing... saying a curse word is as bad as trying to make someone crawl at knife point, thanks for that little lesson in reality - wow now I really see the light.

And if more people would start to care more about other people's rights instead of expecting everyone to conform to what they think and belive the world and everyone in it should be, the world would be a better place.

I think issues with you are much deeper then swearing in front of children. I think I'll just keep my kids far, far away from you. You've now become the people who you say turned you into the person you are today. You seem to blame society for all your problems. Can't possibly be your ability to cope?

Swearing is very much, un Disney like behavior. I am 40 years old and I don't like to hear it. If you can't respect the fact that children don't need to hear it at Disney, respect the fact that there are adults who don't want to hear it.

If more people would start caring about the world around them, instead of themselves and "their rights" to do whatever they want....it would be a much better world and things would improve for everyone.

 

[nativetxn]

Since this has nothing to do with planning a trip, I'm going to close this now. If you would like to continue the discussion please post on the community board.

Katholyn