UK / England..

[Kernow_Clan]

Wales is a Principality, not a Country. Had to put this into the US thread as well

 

[Richard Bruvofetc]

Wales is a Principality, not a Country. Had to put this into the US thread as well

Wales is a principality AND a country...

the reason its a principality is that its monarch only has the status of a prince.

 

[Kernow_Clan]

I stand corrected

Ok then what constitutes a country????

Ade

 

[Obi Wan Kenobi]

Wales is a principality AND a country...

the reason its a principality is that its monarch only has the status of a prince.

NaaaH,
The Monarch of England's first son is the Prince of wales, and of the Dutchy of Cornwall, see two COUNTIES!
You haven't had a monarch since the battle of Monmouth

 

[VSL]

 

[Bonnie]

I'm with Kernow_Clan in the belief that England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland are not countries, as I don't see how you can have a country within a country. I've always considered them to be constituent parts of the United Kingdom - the United Kingdom being the only country.

 

[Obi Wan Kenobi]

I'm with Kernow_Clan in the belief that England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland are not countries, as I don't see how you can have a country within a country. I've always considered them to be constituent parts of the United Kingdom - the United Kingdom being the only country.

But they are all just parts of the greatest country in the world.....

YORKSHIRE!!

 

[Bonnie]

But they are all just parts of the greatest country in the world.....

YORKSHIRE!!

LOL! Okay, won't argue with you.

 

[emmaness]

I've always thought of the UK as being the country, and England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland as provinces. That said, I do tend to say to people that I'm from Devon, England, rather than Britain or the UK! I don't really know why though, lol!

This is always an interesting topic for discussion.

 

[mickg7dyd]

Hi,
Not sure what all the fuss is about if certain politicians get their way we will all be Europeans with President Blair as our leader...

Mick.

 

[disneyangel]

Hi

I thought I'd enter into the debate as a token Scot.

I think of myself as Scottish in identity (ie history , culture etc) and as being a citizen of the United Kingdom in legality.

I certainly think of England ,Wales , Ireland and Scotland as each being separate countries.

I have to admit it does bug me when Scotland is referred to as part of England and that if praise is due for some sporting event etc. the media label Scottish people as British but if it's for violence or failure in anything we're labelled as Scottish. I have to admit to supporting the English teams once the Scottish ones are out (and it does tend to happen in that order), it's the media's perception that gets to me not the team or nation themselves.

 

[emmaness]

Hi
I think of myself as Scottish in identity (ie history , culture etc) and as being a citizen of the United Kingdom in legality.

I would agree with that, definitely, except with me being English in identity. Simply because there are real cultural differences between the four provinces of the UK! I definitely "feel" English, if you know what I mean.

 

[Bonnie]

I would agree with that, definitely, except with me being English in identity. Simply because there are real cultural differences between the four provinces of the UK! I definitely "feel" English, if you know what I mean.

Yes, I agree with that, too!

It actually annoys me a bit that it's generally considered acceptable for people from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland to refer to themselves as Scottish, Welsh and (Northern) Irish, yet when people from England refer to themselves as English (as opposed to British), everyone gets their knickers in a twist! Because of that, I try to call myself "British" as much as possible, even though I do feel very English as well.

There's a lot of Scottish, Welsh, Irish, and even Cornish pride, and it isn't really looked down on like English pride is! We Brits (or perhaps just the England-dwelling portion of us?) seem to think of patriotism as a very bad thing. I must admit that I don't particularly like the term myself, because I think of it as being related to racism and the BNP! It's a shame, really. I do love our country and its history (I would never want to live anywhere else!) and want to be proud of it, but being proud of Britain / the UK / England is kind of a taboo these days.

 

[Obi Wan Kenobi]

Well, you know what they say
English by birth
Yorkshire by the grace of God

 

[JohnnySharp2]

I always refer to myself as English (not British) - however, with the confusion over our accents I have been asked in Florida many times if I am Welsh or Australian.
I wonder what they make of the geordie accent?

 

[Andrew Bichard]

Ok, lets start with the correct definitions

Great Britain comprises : England, Scotland and Wales
UK is Great Britain + Northern Ireland
British Isles is UK + Eire

Ok, let's get real pedantic! I was born in none of these places, yet I was born in the UK. I'm from Guernsey in the Channel Islands which are part of the UK, as is the Isle of Man.

UK is Great Britain + Northern Ireland + Channel Islands + Isle of Man.

Andrew

 

[Richard Bruvofetc]

......and don't forget Rockall!!!

 

[Ali and boyz]

I used to work for a company that met Americans (sorry all Americans - I love you all) from their plane and you wouldn't believe the numbers of times I was asked if we had electricity here in Scotland

 

[Obi Wan Kenobi]

I used to work for a company that met Americans (sorry all Americans - I love you all) from their plane and you wouldn't believe the numbers of times I was asked if we had electricity here in Scotland

Well, do you?

 

[Tartan Tigger]

I was born and bred in Scotland and consider myself Scottish not British.