Ugh, dh has a court date while we are at Disney

[robinb]

In the OP's defense, I don't see any years in the dates of her trips. It is possible that the June trip wasn't June 2009.

Ah, you're right. It was 2008 . Sorry OP!

 

[dipin]

Technically you pay into unemployment...so it's not totally sponging.

But there is no way I'd be taking that trip. We had to change our plans this year because we had some big expenses, and you know what, my kids got over it.

while technically people pay into unemployment, a major requirement for being eligible for unemployment is being ready to work and actively looking for a job. I doubt either will be taking place at WDW. So the OP's husband will be guilty of unemployment fraud, and will have to repay everything he has received, plus fines and court costs.

I would hope this is a joke, as advertising to the world (and asking for help getting away with) unemployment insurance fraud is not really the smartest thing to do. Setting aside how I personally feel about taking wdw trips while unemployed, there is enough information in the OP for anyone who might be familiar with you to identify you and turn you in.

 

[C.Ann]

ITA. You DH should not even be taking a vacation as he should be actively seeking full time work as a condition of collecting unemployment. His former employer will have a field day with it if they find out! The best thing for him to do is to take the phone call back at the resort while you and the kids high tail it out of the room and to the ADR. Have your home phone forwarded to his cell phone so he can take the call on his home phone number. I sincerely hope that everything works out for you and this doesn't blow up in his face. It would really stink to lose unemployment insurance over a vacation.

Sad, but true.. Rather than worrying about ADR's, you should be worrying about his former employer - or the unemployment office - catching wind of where he is..

Since unemployment is being extended for people now they are becoming much less tolerant of people not seeking employment daily and having records (actual paper records) as proof of such..

 

[surfgirl]

Honestly, your husband has some chutzpah. He has a court hearing that is going to determine eligibility for unemployment benefits that he may owe 4 1/2 months back for and he is going to do it from a phone call in a crowded dining room on vacation ? Do you realize what exactly you are saying ?

Whether or not you choose to take the vacation (no comment), I would have him be in court. What happens if he doesn't get cell reception ?

What is he going to answer when they ask him where he is ? Is he prepared to lie ? Because if he isn't, then he's lost the case. If he is, he is commiting perjury. And he should be ready for that question.

And for me, it wouldn't be worth it... but I guess you've already thought that through.

 

[mama2ethan04]

Since the OP was only looking for an answer to "do we reschedule the ADR or go on with out him" I'll say- go on without him. The rest of you need to back off- she wasn't asking for your opinion on whether they should take the trip or not. We all have our issues, let's not throw stones.

 

[Teresa Pitman]

Maybe he's going to apply for work at WDW.

Teresa

 

[denegate]

Since the OP was only looking for an answer to "do we reschedule the ADR or go on with out him" I'll say- go on without him. The rest of you need to back off- she wasn't asking for your opinion on whether they should take the trip or not. We all have our issues, let's not throw stones.

My thoughts also. I make it a point to try to answer the questions as asked and not pass judgement on people and families I do not even know.

 

[Kickapoo Joie Juice]

Since the OP was only looking for an answer to "do we reschedule the ADR or go on with out him" I'll say- go on without him. The rest of you need to back off- she wasn't asking for your opinion on whether they should take the trip or not. We all have our issues, let's not throw stones.

I see that you are new to the disboards...

 

[mom2faith]

I see that you are new to the disboards...

 

[Kickapoo Joie Juice]

My thoughts also. I make it a point to try to answer the questions as asked and not pass judgement on people and families I do not even know.

Just for fun, how about I rephrase the OP's original question so it wouldn't have caused several pages of whaaaaa!!!!

"Dh has an important phone call to take while we're at Disney. I'm concerned it may run over our original ADR set 20 minutes later. Should I reschedule the ADR so we all get to start eating at the same time or would it be a problem if Dh has to catch up to us once we've started eating."


See, if this was REALLY what the OP was asking, all the other information would have been completely unnecessary. Completely. The fact that it's in there along with the trip ticker still leads me to believe something else is going on, my original assertion is that it's a joke...

 

[mama2ethan04]

I see that you are new to the disboards...

So being a "Dis Veteran" means you're allowed to be rude or judgmental? I may be new to disboards, but not new to message boards. I'm a manager on a 3500 member message board, we follow rule #1 "respect your fellow member". If you can't follow that rule, you can't play. Even if it's a joke. Maybe it's a newbie that doesn't realize putting it all out there will get you flamed. Again I say,

 

[bumbershoot]

I can't help but think this is a joke. I mean, really? A breakfast vs. ALL YOUR UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS?

I'm going to assume it's a joke, because if it isn't, then I would theoretically have to point out how totally irresponsible you are being to your four children by blowing money you don't have on a vacation you shouldn't be taking, and the biggest issue you have is if you think you can make breakfast. :headache

You know that's not what the question is AT ALL, right?

Choice 1: schedule the breakfast for later, AFTER his call should be over. maybe the call won't be, though.

Choice 2: mom and kids go to the b'fast while hubby takes the call. I have an assumption that, since the b'fast is relatively early, they won't be IN the parks already, and he will be in the quiet of their room.

reschedule the adr to a later time hoping that the court thing is over quickly or keep as schedule take the kids to breakfast and have him meet up with you at the park when he is finished?

... is being ready to work and actively looking for a job. I doubt either will be taking place at WDW. So the OP's husband will be guilty of unemployment fraud...

Hubby never took unemployment. But we took a pre-planned and pre-paid vacation during the last week of his department's existence, and had TWO phone interviews from various areas of Disneyland Resort, and also had more phone calls about other jobs he'd tried for.

If he had had an offer that needed to start immediately, we would have sent him right back up home. Since he was officially employed until the Monday after our vacation (they made the end date one day into June so they could get benefits through June, though no one was going to be working on that day...it was exit interview day, however), he really couldn't have started a new job, but if it was a make or break thing, he would have gone.

Now hubby is in an industry where you start with phone interviews, at least one, so that makes a difference.

But not everyone out of the state is incapable of looking for work!

As it was, we had the most excellent benefit of being in the Grand Cal lobby when he was officially offered a job contracting at a large company in a Seattle suburb! We'll never experience the Grand Cal lobby in the same way.

... and he is going to do it from a phone call in a crowded dining room on vacation ?

Nowhere in the post should anyone have gotten the idea that he would be in the dining room during the call. The point was to delay the b'fast until the call should be over, or they go on without him.



OP, just let him stay in the quiet of the room while you guys go off for b'fast. If you want to change the b'fast venue for something hubby might not miss as much, maybe try that. Be out of the room before his call, and make sure he's totally prepared! Obviously he'll also be available for phone interviews while you're on your trip, so make SURE that phone is on and he checks his voicemails often, so he can run off back to the room to call them back!

As for having a home phone transferred to a cell..why? We ONLY have cellphones and no one gave hubby a hard time for possibly not being home during interviews. I can't imagine why it might bother unemployment people if he's on a cell!

 

[robinb]

As for having a home phone transferred to a cell..why? We ONLY have cellphones and no one gave hubby a hard time for possibly not being home during interviews. I can't imagine why it might bother unemployment people if he's on a cell!

I suggested that because the unemployment people might only have his home phone and it would look off to ask them to call on a different phone. I didn't think the husband would want to stick out.

ETA: Taking a pre-planned vacation while actually on left-over vacation time is a LOT different than planning a vacation after being laid off and then taking it 5 moths later while still unemployed.

 

[a1tinkfans]

Dh is currently unemployed and receiving unemployment. Our Disney trip was completely paid for before he lost his job so we decided to keep it. Well this week we received a letter for a telephone court heiring as his former employer is fighting his unemployment benifits. It is scheduled for 8am and we have adrs for 8:20. If he misses the appointment, he would more than likely lose and have to pay back all of the unemployment he has received in the last 4 1/2 months. Would you try and reschedule the adr to a later time hoping that the court thing is over quickly or keep as schedule take the kids to breakfast and have him meet up with you at the park when he is finished? The one good thing is that it is by telephone and he does not have to appear in person.

Okay, glad you are on vacation...I think.............,
but really.......Collecting Unemployment means you are able to work each day...so FRAUD comes to mind... I really thought this was a joke.......You're at a Disney restaurant and maybe sneaking off to make a call???l. Imagine if they got wind of it and traced the logged in call? Legally they can tape the whole conversation, I'd be real careful about what he was saying.....
So many people are out of work and going on interviews each day for work......and getting nothing...losing homes and families being displaced.....(when you call in or sign in for unemployment you are telling them contractually/legally that you are able to work those days and trying too....)
.......so sorry, having some difficulty drumming up sympathy for your hubby.... and his potential "lost ADR"
I guess the post really bothered me, so, to All.....thats my Vent for the week!

 

[dipin]

Hubby never took unemployment. But we took a pre-planned and pre-paid vacation during the last week of his department's existence, and had TWO phone interviews from various areas of Disneyland Resort, and also had more phone calls about other jobs he'd tried for.

If he had had an offer that needed to start immediately, we would have sent him right back up home. Since he was officially employed until the Monday after our vacation (they made the end date one day into June so they could get benefits through June, though no one was going to be working on that day...it was exit interview day, however), he really couldn't have started a new job, but if it was a make or break thing, he would have gone.

Now hubby is in an industry where you start with phone interviews, at least one, so that makes a difference.

But not everyone out of the state is incapable of looking for work!

I really doubt he will spend his days in the hotel looking for a new job, sending out resumes and looking through the paper. The looking for full time employment requirement does not mean "making a phone call or two between parks" or "looking at classified ads at night after the kids are asleep." And I say this without any aggression towards the OP.

Being eligible for unemployment insurance isn't a gray area where each one can have their own criteria. It is very clear that one needs to be available and actively looking for full time job, and I guarantee that, if reported, the OP's husband would be found guilty of UIA fraud if he does go to disney.

So, the bottom line is that the OP, if she is serious (which I hope she isn't, because regardless of how any of us feel about the situation, there is enough identifying information there that anyone in her area can find out its her and report her husband) is asking for help to commit UIA fraud. This is not judging her character or saying she should do this or that, just the basic legal fact of the matter.

 

[surfgirl]

You know that's not what the question is AT ALL, right?

I can't imagine why it might bother unemployment people if he's on a cell!

Right back at ya...

the question is about taking a call FROM COURT since his former employer is fighting paying unemployment for 4 1/2 months.

It isn't :
option 1) a job interview
option 2) a call about possible work


This is pretty serious if it goes the wrong way and I imagine it would be some big bucks that he will now owe that he has already been paid if he loses. I wouldn't be willing to take the risk to not be in court if this was happening. (I think that was a double negative, but I think you get my point.) This could end up being a REALLLLLLLLY expensive vacation.

As to the second point I quoted... I would imagine that court may not care that he's on a cell, but if they found out he was on vacation in Disney, they may just care a bit. If the attorney for the employer is at all on the ball, he will ask where he is taking the call. Again, not a risk that I'd be willing to take, but I also wouldn't take a vacation to Disney if we were unemployed either. (but I'm not judging, I'm just saying I would or would not do).

 

[M&N]

My friend was laid off and is collecting unemployment. His planned vacation came up. It's not a DW one-just a drive through NC and VA. He went to the unemployment office and told them he would be away and he's not getting his compensation during that time. No problems--no lies.

 

[PinkRhombus]

So being a "Dis Veteran" means you're allowed to be rude or judgmental? I may be new to disboards, but not new to message boards. I'm a manager on a 3500 member message board, we follow rule #1 "respect your fellow member". If you can't follow that rule, you can't play. Even if it's a joke. Maybe it's a newbie that doesn't realize putting it all out there will get you flamed. Again I say,

I don't think they're being rude. Sometimes people need to have some sense knocked their way whether they ask for it or not.

 

[MarriedToAPrince]

I would keep it so that the kids aren't bothering him while he is on the phone.

 

[TwoRoos]

My friend was laid off and is collecting unemployment. His planned vacation came up. It's not a DW one-just a drive through NC and VA. He went to the unemployment office and told them he would be away and he's not getting his compensation during that time. No problems--no lies.

I was just thinking about this very thing today. I replied to this thread earlier, and at the time I wasn't even thinking about the rules for receiving unemployment benefits. I was just answering the question with regards to the ADR and what I would do about it. But after other posters mentioned what they did about the stipulations (actively looking for work, being available), I wondered if it were possible to take a week off of receiving the benefits. It seems that it is. I was in no way trying to help encourage anything wrong. I still wish the best to the OP and her family.