UGH! Can't people dress up anymore??

[ntsammy5]

I can certainly see how it's much better to forgo all sense of ceremony or specialness in all occasions. Jeans and sneakers should of course be worn to weddings, funerals, graduations, five star restaurants, job interviews, church, and to every and all special occasions.

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I've worn jeans and sneakers to all of these events except a job interview - haven't had one of those in a long while. If you had been to church lately you'd know how common that attire is. BTW who sets the standards anyhow. And please tell me exactly what purpose a necktie serves. For 37 years in the US Army I wore uniforms (NG & active) and for 30 years as a banker I wore suits every day. Not so much any more.

 

[mkingdomlvr]

I just spent 2 weeks visiting family for the holidays and we spent a good bit of time in different eating establishments, in different churches and a graduation party. If you promised me a million dollars, I still couldn't tell you what anyone was wearing-including ME!!!

What I do remember is everyone's smiles and laughter, the stories we told and the spontaneous recitation of lines from "A Christmas Story" that started with our table and spread to the others around us. I remember how beautiful the music was at the church we went to on Christmas eve, and how great the sermon was at the church we went to on NYE.

If the attire and manners of strangers causes someone that much upset, perhaps it would make more sense to host dinner parties at one's home. That way, only people who would dress and behave the way the host wants them to would be allowed to attend.

 

[MELSMICE]

I once heard, "you can never be over dressed, only under dressed", and refer to that when I dress to go somewhere.

I don't believe I am elitist, snobbish, shallow or materialistic because of the way I choose to dress. I wear jeans/sneakers when I see fit & dress nicer when I feel that I should.

I believe the way a person dresses & presents themselves says a lot about that individual. JMO.

 

[mkingdomlvr]

I once heard, "you can never be over dressed, only under dressed", and refer to that when I dress to go somewhere.

I don't believe I am elitist, snobbish, shallow or materialistic because of the way I choose to dress. I wear jeans/sneakers when I see fit & dress nicer when I feel that I should.

I believe the way a person dresses & presents themselves says a lot about that individual. JMO.

What you wear makes you feel good about yourself-and there's nothing wrong with that. I don't think that's snobby at all.

What sounds snobby to me is when a person comments negatively about other people's clothing, insinuating that those who do not choose to dress as they do are somehow inferior as people. I've known wonderful people who dress like slobs and hateful people who look like they just stepped out of a Ralph Lauren ad. Clothes do NOT make the person. In my experience the heart makes the person.

 

[Debbie7452]

I vote more "appropriate" dress for certain occasions, although I am not the fashion police or anything. My family still wears "church clothes" to church on Sunday! Shocking, I know. We are very much in the minority. Especially the kids...luckily they don't complain about wearing the nice clothes, that's just how it is for our family.

Sometimes I feel out of place all dressed up in a sea casually dressed folks.

 

[MELSMICE]

I vote more "appropriate" dress for certain occasions, although I am not the fashion police or anything. My family still wears "church clothes" to church on Sunday! Shocking, I know. We are very much in the minority. Especially the kids...luckily they don't complain about wearing the nice clothes, that's just how it is for our family.

Sometimes I feel out of place all dressed up in a sea casually dressed folks.

I think you have said it the best - "more appropriate"!!!

 

[bicker]

I once heard, "you can never be over dressed, only under dressed"

No doubt said by someone who prefers if everyone was over-dressed!

You can be both over-dressed, and under-dressed, though not both at the same time. The only difference is that they won't refuse to serve your if you're over-dressed.

I believe the way a person dresses & presents themselves says a lot about that individual. JMO.

I believe the way a person treats others says a lot about that individual. How they dress has practically no value as an indicator. I've been treated poorly by the finest-dressed people, and I've been treated well by the coarsest-dressed people.

 

[yeartolate]

I believe the way a person treats others says a lot about that individual. How they dress has practically no value as an indicator. I've been treated poorly by the finest-dressed people, and I've been treated well by the coarsest-dressed people.

Well there is a mouthful.

I just cannot recall anybody wearing jeans and a sweatshirt ever impacting on my meal whatsoever. It does not make me feel slighted since I decided to dress up.

On the other hand, I have had meals impacted by snobby people harrassing waiters over miniscule issues searching for freebies or comps. My meals have been impacted by rude loud people. My meals have been impacted by customers wearing way too much fragrance.(I would prefer a moderate BO smell to overfragranced) But someone wearing jeans?

I just can't figure out how casual wear impacts my dining experience. I cannot remember even noticing. I think if I did notice, that would be a sign that I needed more intriguing dining companions.

 

[ols386]

No doubt said by someone who prefers if everyone was over-dressed!

You can be both over-dressed, and under-dressed, though not both at the same time. The only difference is that they won't refuse to serve your if you're over-dressed.

I believe the way a person treats others says a lot about that individual. How they dress has practically no value as an indicator. I've been treated poorly by the finest-dressed people, and I've been treated well by the coarsest-dressed people.

I agree with your last paragraph, but I also believe that sometimes, right or wrong, we are judged on our appearance. I wouldn't go into a job interview, for an office position, dressed in blue jeans and tennis shoes.

 

[daisax]

I think most people would agree that clothing sends a message (especially in the professional world).

The disagreement comes over whether there's inherent disrespect or ignorance in wearing jeans to eat barbecue, Brazilian or otherwise.

For many, eating out is a leisure activity, one they enjoy frequently, and it no longer holds a lot of cachet, even at places where the entrees are expensive.

 

[bicker]

I agree with your last paragraph, but I also believe that sometimes, right or wrong, we are judged on our appearance.

That doesn't contradict, one bit, what folks were saying. People do judge others on their appearance, but the point some folks were making in this thread is that is the cases they're talking about, the judge-er is in the wrong, not the judged.

 

[wvjules]

I don't like how jeans and tennis shoes look together. I also only own a few t-shirts and sweatshirts and only wear them to the gym or Disney. I hate how I look in them.

I dress to make myself feel and look better and don't care how others dress when they go out.

 

[ols386]

That doesn't contradict, one bit, what folks were saying. People do judge others on their appearance, but the point some folks were making in this thread is that is the cases they're talking about, the judge-er is in the wrong, not the judged.

Agree. I can't speak for anyone else, but I know I've judged sometimes. I'm not proud of it, but I know I've done it.

 

[fairykin]

My best friends husband is a Surgeon. Last time I went to visit her, He took us out to dinner. We waited for him to come home.. he got called in on an emergency..then had to do rounds. When he finally got home.. we were dressed nicely..and He after being on His feet all day put on some orthopedic tennis shoes.. nice khaki's and a button down shirt with a jacket.

This L.A. restraunt we went to would not let us in because He had on tennis shoes.

It was a moment of *Such* Shallowness. I'll Never Forget it.

This man who saves lives.. was turned away because he had on sneakers.

Shallow Stupidity.

 

[ntsammy5]

I can't believe this thing has 170+ posts!

 

[Bluestars]

Saw a girl/woman in Target yesterday in her jammies & slippers.

What?! You mean I have been dressing up all this time in my jeans and tennis shoes when I could have just rolled out of bed and left the house in my jammies? Who knew?

I guess I am self-absorbed because I just don't care what people wear. If I could get away with it, I would live in T-shirts, bare feet, and shorts. I have to wear a dress, skirt, or dress pants every day to work. It gets old fast. When I am off work, I like to be comfortable.

 

[mhsjax]

Which, if true, is a decision society has made.

They actually do. You're exaggerating.

I do note the sarcasm, but you need to note that a lot of this is a reflection of how too many people have shown too much disrespect for the rights of others to live their lives in accordance with their own beliefs and values. If people treated everyone else with uniform respect and dignity for the life each person is leading, based on that person's beliefs and values rather than their own, then there wouldn't be any reason to establish "rights".

Legislators aren't morons, no matter what whiners wish to contend: They pass laws based on sound foundations, specific instances where people did things that significantly violated society's consensus morality. The problem with laws (and rules), is that they cannot always be crafted finely enough to draw a clear delineation. Sometimes laws fail to cover situations that should be cover, or cover situations that shouldn't be covered. That is the price of the imprecise nature of the human experience. (In other words, that's life.) It is better to have laws (and rules), even though sometimes they miss the mark by a marginal amount than to have no laws (or rules) and have rampant, gross transgression.

Well, in this case, it is hard to know what you mean by labeling that as sarcasm. The reality is that the OP can readily be classified as a "ME ME ME" perspective, since it puts the OP's personal preferences regarding dining experiences over that of others.

Well in my opinion legislators are idiots, and I am sorry I don't think that they pass laws on sound foundations, but I am not going to argue that, we are talking about the way society handles things, not what is law. I think to show up wearing sweats and a jacket is disgusting. Sorry but no amount of your educated speeches is going to change my mind, I mean we all know just how upstanding the politicians are who make these rules,, Spare me, it comes down to as my mother in law who had only a 6th grade education would say "act like somebody"/ She would never have gone out of the house without dressing appropriately.

 

[bicker]

And with that last word in your posting, "appropriately," you've effectively said nothing, since the word, "appropriately," is subjective, which was the point that a lot of us have been making all along.

 

[bicker]

And with that last word in your posting, "appropriately," you've effectively said nothing, since the word, "appropriately," is subjective, which was the point that a lot of us have been making all along.

 

[mhsjax]

Yes, but not all Mom's look "comfortable" because they can't afford a spa day. I love being comfortable. I live in my crocs and sneakers. I hate shoes, just can't ever find any that are truly comfortable. And the assumptions about hair and makeup .. yecch! Mascara runs, even face foundation runs when your eyes run in the winter, eyeliner smudges, lipstick wears off and has to be reapplied - whew! I just don't really care to take my precious time in my life checking these things all day long. I'm me. And I'm happy being me. If people judge me on shoes and makeup well, too bad, because I just couldn't be bothered! And I know lots of Mom's like me, that stuff just isn't important to us. All I can say is, like me or hate me, whatever you want, but don't expect me to be like you. I'm me.

wow, I just can't believe how a teacher making a comment about some moms looking like they don't have time for themselves could be offensive, I mean Sauve shampoo does it all the time, Its their biggest commercial right now. And I am a mom of 3 and yes I do care how I look and I take the time to check and see if my mascara runs. Nobody said that you're not ok with being you, but alot of moms would love a spa day. Some people get offended too easily.