Two of my girls want to take me

I have some of the evenings free so we are planning on seeing Luminous at EPCOT and fireworks at MK on the evenings of my conference

If you have a super late night at your conference, you can always trek to the Polynesian Resort and watch the fireworks from there. Park at Disney Springs (free) and take the bus to the Polynesian. You can watch them on the beach while enjoying a drink and/ or Dole Whip. I also highly recommend the pulled pork nachos from the QS. They play the same soundtrack in the parks. You can also see the nightly Electrical Water Pageant.

You can see the Epcot fireworks very well from Boardwalk / Yacht & Beach Clubs. Another great activity - you can walk from Epcot’s World Showcase to the Hollywood Studios entrance, passing the aforementioned hotels (plus Swan and Dolphin). You can also take the boat (free) which travels the same route and stops at all the hotels.
 
If you have someone to take the wheel and plan, then enjoy it! I am always the planner in my family, whether it's Disney, Hawaii, Portland...anywhere
I'd like to say I'd enjoy someone else doing it but actually in reality I am an obsessive type A planner and probably really couldn't! But if you can, go with it!:lovestruc
This is usually me as well! But I've recently been thrown a few curve balls that made me feel like stepping aside and letting someone else take the wheel for a bit.
 
At DLR, LLSP are very easy to purchase. At WDW, with advance purchasing, how difficult it is to book LLSP in advance? How difficult are they to book same day?

From a strategic booking standpoint, is it better to reserve all of our LLMP for the various days and then go back within the hour to book our LLSP rides? Or do LLSP sell out right away?
 
Thank you! Keep the the great suggestions coming. I added Ogas at 9:30 to my list. I've heard that Tron is also very cool at night.
Nighttime is really my favorite time at WDW. Even ignoring the fireworks, just how everything's lit up and how different many of the attractions can be. (I tend to go during the holiday season now, just because of how much more nighttime there is. Plus, with everything decorated, resort-hopping is amazing.)

I assume it won't be "night" when you're there, but Expedition Everest is amazing at night, and is typically close to walk-on during the last hour. (It'll be 40 minutes and busy at like 6pm, then be walk-on an hour later. It's always a little surprising.) In recent trips, I've tended to arrive at AK at noon and close it rather than worry about mornings. FOP as the last ride of the day at close is amazing - and might even give you a chance to see Pandora in the dark afterwards.

I think I mentioned in this thread that I will be there for a conference before our visit. I have some of the evenings free so we are planning on seeing Luminous at EPCOT and fireworks at MK on the evenings of my conference. We won't focus on rides but will just get our bearings on those afternoon/evenings. The following week, when we are spending the full day in the parks, we don't have to worry about lining up for shows. I'm not sure how much shorter the lines are when others are waiting for fireworks or Fantasmic.
LAS2AMS hit some of the best thoughts - there's a lot you can do at night, even without entering the parks.

When I go to Epcot and I'm planning to close, I'll park at DHS and take the Skyliner or walk so that I can hang out in the Epcot resorts area afterward. (Pro tip: shortest walk from DHS is to take a right after the tennis court and head toward the main resort building, then take the stairs down to the boardwalk area.) FYI: depending on when you get there - DHS often stops charging for parking around 6pm.

Poly is the probably best choice for the MK fireworks, though I have a soft spot for the same at Contemporary - there's a viewing spot on 4 outside the ramp to Bay Lake Tower. I'll sometimes grab a wrap at Contempo Cafe and sit there. (It is a very unimpressive location, but it's a nice quiet spot if you're in the mood for that kind of thing.) Then I'll sometimes head back to the pier behind the resort for the Electric Water Pageant. But that might be a bit lower-key than you're looking for.


WDW really is the opposite of DLR in that it tends to die out at night, especially on weeknights. The broader school of thought seems to be finishing a day at MK, Epcot, and/or Disney Springs.

I'm not much of a crowds person, so I usually hit rides during the fireworks (and people seem to bail on MK after them). I hate to admit it - I'm not actually sure I've ever seen Luminous in its entirety. :D Since most people start in Future World, that section is kind of a dead zone at night, especially once people start moving to World Showcase for the fireworks.

Random: try not to get caught in the Sunset Blvd area (RnR Coaster, ToT) near the end of Fantasmic if you can help it. (I often score a late LL over there and forget it's happening - it's not fun.)

All of the restaurants that look attractive to us are in AK or AKL. We are two adults without kids. I'm not looking for a Napa Rose type of environment or a character meal. Do you have any favorite restaurants? If so, why are they your favorite?
I'm a little bit out of my element as far as actual restaurants go. I was definitely more of a restaurant-goer during my AP years (pre-pandemic), and they've shaken the etch-a-sketch so hard since the pandemic that everything is basically "new" in one way or another. And, frustratingly, some of the restaurants can be amazing one minute and not-great the next. (Be Our Guest was supposedly amazing for a long time, then became excruciatingly bad - at least it sounds like they got it back to something not-terrible.)

In more recent trips, I'm more counter-service on the early side, then I'll go to Disney Springs for an Earl sandwich after park close. (I usually stay over off 535, so it's basically on the way to the hotel.)

I like Satu'li Canteen (AK) a lot. Sadly, I found something I loved during my first visit there (passholder preview) and just keep getting the same thing. :D The bowls have such an interesting blend of flavors, and I love the blueberry mousse thing.

The Creperie outside Ratatouille at Epcot is another fave. Personally, I'll usually just grab a ratatouille galette and a red berries crepe from the to-go spot and go wander off somewhere to people watch, but they do have the regular sit-down restaurant there.

I have a soft spot for the Hollywood Brown Derby, which might be some slight nostalgia for all of the times I did Dine with an Imagineer there when that was still a thing, so I wouldn't necessarily put this way high on the list. The Cobb Salad and the Grapefruit Cake are unique to there - usually my go-to.

For MK counter-service, I like Pecos Bill's (mobile order). There's not a tremendous variety at MK in general, but the food there is really good for what it is. The main dining area can be slammed, but if you head toward the far side of the restaurant (away from the cashiers) and hang a left, there are a couple of extra seating areas that people don't seem to realize are there. (There's one in the far back that's almost invisible.)

To LAS2AMS's point - if your tastes are more AK/AKL - Poly would definitely be up your alley.


I'll do the flip on this - places I'm not as fond of or are complicated.

I did Coral Reef a couple of years ago, and, man, that place should be way, way better than it is. It's amazing to eat food in front of the aquarium, but I was not impressed - it almost felt like a noisy character meal. (I went to a dinner event in the sponsor lounge at The Seas once, and that should definitely be the restaurant spot.)

Space 220 is one that's a challenge to get a reservation. It's probably worth seeing once, but I would lean on getting into the Lounge rather than doing the full prix-fixe meal. (I'm out of practice on the best method of getting in there - there's probably a thread here with the deets.) Even then - it might be worth saving for a later trip.

Some stuff you might want to consider would be things you wouldn't do anywhere else, like the Sci-Fi Diner at DHS, if only because they're almost like attractions. I started trying stuff like that during my later trips, just to hit things I'd never done before - so you could always wait for stuff like that for a later visit.


In the broadest sense, I think WDW almost works best as a tasting experience - try anything once. Do the planning that you're doing - it's a good basis - but don't be afraid to just totally wing it and throw a dart at the map.
 
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For restaurants, I think HS is the worst for good food options but it is improving. We often park hop to or from HS and eat at another park or hotel.

I like Skipper Canteen and Columbia House at MK. A lot of people enjoy Liberty Tree Tavern.

Epcot has a multitude of good places to eat. I like Le Cellier in the Canada pavilion best but it’s getting expensive. We snagged Space 220 for our next trip but that is mostly because of the ambiance - my kid really wants to go there.

Almost everything at AK and AKL is delicious.

Steakhouse 71 at the Contemporary gets good reviews (apparently the burger at lunch is the best), and it’s easy to access via the monorail. If you’re looking for fancy dinners you might check out Flying Fish (Boardwalk), Narcossee (Grand Floridian), or Topolinos (Riviera). If you’re into character meals, there are a ton, depending on who you want to see.

I think a monorail tour of the hotels is worth the time if you want to break away from the parks. Hop in to the Enchanted Rose and Trader Sam’s for drinks if you like on the way. (TS often has a line though.)

You won’t get to everything you want to see but you’ll have a great time, I’m sure!
 
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Did I mention that we are staying off site?
Are you driving? Make sure you budget for parking costs. Also you can’t park at the resorts unless you have a dining reservation there.

You could park at Disney Springs for free but the buses form DS only go to the resorts, not to parks.
 
Thanks, I understand parking. Our off site accommodations are free which is the only reason that we can stay for as long as we are staying and do as much as we are doing. If we had to pay for accommodations, the trip would be cost prohibitive.
 
There was a time where it was worth it for one person to get an AP to cover parking and discounts, but I feel like it's harder to say that now. My family used to get APs to do trips at the beginning and end of the covered year, which might still be worth it if the trips are long enough.

For anyone trying to get around parking:

If you get desperate and need a direct bus (read: AK) from Disney Springs, you can always park in the Strawberry lot and walk over to the bus stop at Saratoga Springs by the main building (or from the Lime deck to the Congress Park stop). (Sometimes, if I fly and don't rent a car, I'll stay close-ish to Disney Springs and head to SSR to get to the parks.)

For those late arrivals, I do like the DHS lot, given how centrally-located it is - it's easy to get almost anywhere else from there (or via Boardwalk), and you can always take a bus back to Boardwalk after hours. I'm just not sure how early it becomes free. If the booths are still open, you can just tell them that you made a wrong turn and turn around. (The signage on that new-ish interchange isn't great - people turn into DHS by accident all the time.)

Btw - fyi for the bargain hunters / cheapskates - the Earl at Disney Springs accepts Disneyland MKs for discounts. (I specifically mentioned Disneyland in December, and they were good with it, but I think you can even just wave it at them without specifying.)
 
Does Disney still offer convention tickets? In the mid to late 2000s we did our CPE training at WDW a couple years, and Disney had convention tickets that offered 5 days unlimited admission to Epcot (after 4PM), DHS (after 4PM), AK (after 3PM) and Pleasure Island. They were super cheap - like $60 or $70. “In those days” you could buy a seasonal 4 day / 4 park ticket for $200… for comparison. It seems like yesterday but… it was low season and the parks were empty. And it was over Halloween!!!!!! I think the first year we went there were hardly any decorations up. Hard to believe…

We weren’t staying at WDW, the passes were offered to anyone that qualified.
 
Does Disney still offer convention tickets?
Yep! The deals aren't like they were then, but they offer after-1pm and after-5pm tickets that are only available to convention guests.

Here's a random convention's purchasing site, if you're curious about the offers:
https://disneyevent.com/ldac2025

One big difference - they aren't electronic. They have to be mailed or picked up in person. (And they don't include park reservations.)
 
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Yep! The deals aren't like they were then, but they offer after-1pm and after-5pm tickets that are only available to convention guests.

Here's a random convention's purchasing site, if you're curious about the offers:
https://disneyevent.com/ldac2025

One big difference - they aren't electronic. They have to be mailed or picked up in person. (And they don't include park reservations.)

Dang, almost $85 for a single admission after 5PM. The price to get in after 1PM on a 3D ticket is roughly the same as the 3D tickets they sold last summer. Crazy.
 
I'm very interested in AK, as I have a daughter (well, I have 4 of them but one in particular in this case) who is currently interning at a small zoo in Atascadero while she completes her degree. She graduates in June and then heads for Madagascar and then South Africa (I think). She loves working with animals and is thinking of taking a year off before completing her graduate work :)

edited to add that she was chosen to do a cultural exchange to Australia her Junior year and got to go all over the place in that and nearby countries. The highlight? Getting to see Robert Irwin at Australian National Zoo, who is going to be her husband someday, or so she hopes :D. She took the long way home and got to see all kinds of places and animals en route, and she had saved up the money herself to pay for it :)
Be sure to check out the behind-the-scenes opportunities at AK. There are some paid tours:

Special Events & Tours

but also there's a small veterinary clinic at Conservation Station, so sometimes you can see the staff working on an animal.

Conservation Station

The theming in the Africa and Asia sections is amazing. For example, the queue for Expedition Everest (great ride!) is a "yeti museum" featuring hundreds of folk items that Joe Rohde collected from around the Himalayas.

@DizMe , have you chosen a hotel yet? Given your daughter's interests, it would be great if you could splurge for a savanna-view room at AKL. It's a gorgeous hotel (designed by Peter Dominick, who also did the Grand Californian), and they keep soft lighting on the savannas all night so you can even watch the animals when you're up late. There are multiple activities available, including a tour of the stunning arts and crafts in the lobby, plus culinary events. Many of the CMs are from various African countries, so it's fascinating to talk with them. Yeah, AKL is kind of remote, and the only transportation option is buses, but I've never found that to be an issue.

Can you tell that I really like AK and AKL?? 😁
 
Be sure to check out the behind-the-scenes opportunities at AK. There are some paid tours:

Special Events & Tours

but also there's a small veterinary clinic at Conservation Station, so sometimes you can see the staff working on an animal.

Conservation Station

The theming in the Africa and Asia sections is amazing. For example, the queue for Expedition Everest (great ride!) is a "yeti museum" featuring hundreds of folk items that Joe Rohde collected from around the Himalayas.

@DizMe , have you chosen a hotel yet? Given your daughter's interests, it would be great if you could splurge for a savanna-view room at AKL. It's a gorgeous hotel (designed by Peter Dominick, who also did the Grand Californian), and they keep soft lighting on the savannas all night so you can even watch the animals when you're up late. There are multiple activities available, including a tour of the stunning arts and crafts in the lobby, plus culinary events. Many of the CMs are from various African countries, so it's fascinating to talk with them. Yeah, AKL is kind of remote, and the only transportation option is buses, but I've never found that to be an issue.

Can you tell that I really like AK and AKL?? 😁
Well, the daughter arranging the trip got one that was in her budget and available--Pop Century. Since we're leaving in early March, I guess it was late for one of the more popular places. But that's ok. I don't really have a particular agenda right now.

The daughter who loves animals isn't able to go, sadly, because she has finals then. Her twin has finagled a way to be there, though! She worked out how to get away for a short time. Oldest DD can't get away as work is too demanding at the moment and she has an 8-year-old. But we're all going somewhere together this summer and hopefully my son and his family can join in!

Thanks so much for all of the wonderful suggestions! I'm honestly a little overwhelmed at the idea of going right now but I'm so pleased they want to spend this time with me at a place they know I've wanted to go.
 
At DLR, LLSP are very easy to purchase. At WDW, with advance purchasing, how difficult it is to book LLSP in advance? How difficult are they to book same day?

From a strategic booking standpoint, is it better to reserve all of our LLMP for the various days and then go back within the hour to book our LLSP rides? Or do LLSP sell out right away?

I found the thrill-data site super useful. For example, here's a ton of data about the Tron LLSP: https://www.thrill-data.com/lightning-lane/wdw/tronlightcyclerun

There's a ton of variation depending on how busy the parks are, so that's something to keep in mind though.
 
Well, the daughter arranging the trip got one that was in her budget and available--Pop Century. Since we're leaving in early March, I guess it was late for one of the more popular places. But that's ok. I don't really have a particular agenda right now.

The daughter who loves animals isn't able to go, sadly, because she has finals then. Her twin has finagled a way to be there, though! She worked out how to get away for a short time. Oldest DD can't get away as work is too demanding at the moment and she has an 8-year-old. But we're all going somewhere together this summer and hopefully my son and his family can join in!

Thanks so much for all of the wonderful suggestions! I'm honestly a little overwhelmed at the idea of going right now but I'm so pleased they want to spend this time with me at a place they know I've wanted to go.
You girls will have a wonderful time, @DizMe and I'm expecting to read a super trip report upon your return! In the past, I have stayed at Pop Century, All Star Music, Port Orleans Riverside (my fave cause its so lush and quiet!) and Wilderness Lodge. Across all price points. Honestly, they are all great...good beds and clean rooms. At WDW, you dont spend much time there except sleeping and a shower. I am so tired at night, I am asleep as soon as head hits pillow.

It also takes me a few days to unwind when I get back home...I need a vacation from my vacation 😂🤣
 
You girls will have a wonderful time, @DizMe and I'm expecting to read a super trip report upon your return! In the past, I have stayed at Pop Century, All Star Music, Port Orleans Riverside (my fave cause its so lush and quiet!) and Wilderness Lodge. Across all price points. Honestly, they are all great...good beds and clean rooms. At WDW, you dont spend much time there except sleeping and a shower. I am so tired at night, I am asleep as soon as head hits pillow.

It also takes me a few days to unwind when I get back home...I need a vacation from my vacation 😂🤣
LOL!! That's how I'm going to be--needing a vacation from my vacation when I get back!

Thanks for all of the wonderful responses, suggestions, encouragement, pointers, and so on! I've decided to leave it in the hands of my girls and just go along for the ride. I've been so sick this past week with an awful flu; I figure I probably got it at the end of my DL trip or on the plane ride home, but at least it didn't happen WHILE I was at the resort! I've not had the energy or will to look into the WDW trip and am relying on just having a great time with my girls, which I will!
 
Hope you get to feeling better...hubby and I both picked up a cough after Boston/NYC last week...finally getting over before heading off to Montreal for Four Nations. You'll be raring to go come March! And you know, sometimes it's good to let someone else take the wheel for a change...not sure I could at Disney, with my Type A personality but still....😊 if I had a daughter to go with, I wouldn't care what we did! It would be awesome just to be there together.
 
LOL!! That's how I'm going to be--needing a vacation from my vacation when I get back!

Thanks for all of the wonderful responses, suggestions, encouragement, pointers, and so on! I've decided to leave it in the hands of my girls and just go along for the ride. I've been so sick this past week with an awful flu; I figure I probably got it at the end of my DL trip or on the plane ride home, but at least it didn't happen WHILE I was at the resort! I've not had the energy or will to look into the WDW trip and am relying on just having a great time with my girls, which I will!
Oh, no! I'm so sorry you caught the flu. I did, too. That's why we had to cancel our January trip. We were going to be there the same days as you. I hope you feel better very soon, and I like your idea of leaving the planning to your girls. I bet it will make for a more relaxing trip :)

Take care! Rest and hydrate!
 
Oh, no! I'm so sorry you caught the flu. I did, too. That's why we had to cancel our January trip. We were going to be there the same days as you. I hope you feel better very soon, and I like your idea of leaving the planning to your girls. I bet it will make for a more relaxing trip :)

Take care! Rest and hydrate!
Someone in our house has been sick nonstop since Thanksgiving! Definitely a bad winter illness wise.
 












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