Twi..akward?

[Hollywoodhaha]

Rob is a really great actor in everything BUT twilight.

 

[LoraJ]

Rob is a really great actor in everything BUT twilight.

Loved him in Water for Elephants. He's filming Cosmopolis w/David Cronenberg right now. Big departure from Edward Cullen.

And I can't wait to see Kristen in On the Road.

 

[si-am]

As a English Literature major, one of my pet peeves when I was in college were scholars that look down on young adult and/or popular fiction.

That doesn't mean I like Twilight. It never appealed to me. But, I found Harry Potter to be very entertaining and spoke to me on multiple levels. Certainly a little bit of the prose was awkward here and there, but the story itself was compelling. Charles Dickens? Boring (except A Christmas Carol). F. Scott Fitzgerald? Irritating. D. H. Lawrence? Oh, please just kill me. J. D. Salinger? Never finished reading Catcher in the Rye because I hated the character of Holden Caulfield so much.

I'd prefer Neil Gaiman or Douglas Adams any day of the week. Plus there are many, many children's literature books and authors that are very good. Lois Lowry, Mildred D. Taylor, Roald Dahl, Gary Paulsen, etc.

Subjective. See here you're doing exactly what you think professors shouldn't.

Dickens is awesome, in my opinion. One of my favorite authors.

 

[NYEmomma]

Ill-legimate prose isn't a YA phenomenon. There's plenty of adult book garbage to go around. Sookie Stackhouse anyone? Plenty popular, but not exactly award winning writing, simply "fun".

I think YA books serve a purpose. Not quite adult, not quite child. It speaks to them on their teenage level. Harry Potter was supposed to be YA and look how that turned out. Generally YA books deal with younger main characters, I don't see a problem with a genre geared like that.

I think there are plenty of quality works in the YA genre... but Twilight in particular really bothers me because it seems to have spurred this new phenomenon with YA books. I walk into Borders and the biggest section right in the middle of the store are shelves and shelves of mythical/fantasy/paranormal teen books and they're all just crap. I've read Meyer... Stiefvater... some series about witches that was so spectacularly god awful that I didn't even finish it. It's like Twilight got mega-popular and there was a mad rush by publishers to get ANYTHING at all remotely similar to it out to market. Despite the fact that they're all the same storyline, just with different characters (werewolves, warlocks, demons, etc. etc. etc.), and they're all so poorly written.

To me, there's a difference between a "fun" book (which I'm on board with 100%) and something produced by an author that's just NOT up to snuff. What irritates me is that it seems like publishers have lower standards for what's publishable with YA books. I think teens deserve something better... it can still be light, fluffy & fun (heck, it can even be cliched! ).

Maybe I'm not reading the right YA novels. It just seems like the market is saturated with this CRAP.

Has anyone read the blog, Mark Reads Twilight?? Funniest blog I had read in a long, long time. He apparently reads other books now too... including the Hunger Games. I'm really interested in reading his comments on that trilogy.

 

[Planogirl]

I've noticed too that so much of the teen market is all about vampires and similar now. I just wonder how a good author even gets noticed buried in all of that stuff. And yes, books about vampires and the like can certainly be well written.

Taylor Lautner is the other guy's name? I heard a conversation that seemed to indicate that he might be the one to watch in the coming years. I don't know enough about any of them to really know myself.

 

[surfergirl602]

I would find Kristen much more appealing if she would just close her mouth every once and a while!!!

 

[surfergirl602]

Loved him in Water for Elephants. He's filming Cosmopolis w/David Cronenberg right now. Big departure from Edward Cullen.

Don't forget Kevin Durand. YUM.

 

[hellokitty86]

I once read that Stephanie Myers had Henry Cavill in her head for the roll of Edward.

He was too old for the movies (and to dark I think). But just for some eye candy!

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...page=1&ndsp=63&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&tx=55&ty=41

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Love him! He was great in The Tudors.

 

[tessiemez]

I'd say the ratio of books with less-than-stellar writing (at the library they encourage us not to call a book a piece of crap) is the same with adult fiction as with YA. I've never seen people get irate at any other writer's success like they do with Stephenie Meyer. I say--she found her niche, and sales say she's really good at what she does, so why don't we all just read what appeals to us? There tends to be a little something for everyone out there.

But, really, on topic--having read and enjoyed the books, I felt the movies had varying degrees of suckitude (they seem to be getting better as the series progresses), and YES, Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart are just tremendously awkward people. I think they're both kind of adorable in that way, but Kristen maybe needs some lessons on, y'know, talking to other human beings.

That having been said ... they are everywhere too much. I can't say how relieved I was when I Am Number 4 and Beastly were released. Now the teen girls in the library swoon over Alex Pettyfer instead.

ETA: Anyone who hasn't seen Twilight should watch it with Rifftrax. I've not laughed that hard in a long time.

 

[LoraJ]

I would find Kristen much more appealing if she would just close her mouth every once and a while!!!

This is what I don't get, that you can't like someone because they tend to breathe through their mouth. Do you dislike people you know in real life who do that?

 

[FlightlessDuck]

Subjective. See here you're doing exactly what you think professors shouldn't.

Dickens is awesome, in my opinion. One of my favorite authors.

I didn't say Dickens or Salinger wasn't literature and worthy of being read by someone. I just said I didn't like them.

 

[Jennasis]

I think there are plenty of quality works in the YA genre... but Twilight in particular really bothers me because it seems to have spurred this new phenomenon with YA books. I walk into Borders and the biggest section right in the middle of the store are shelves and shelves of mythical/fantasy/paranormal teen books and they're all just crap. I've read Meyer... Stiefvater... some series about witches that was so spectacularly god awful that I didn't even finish it. It's like Twilight got mega-popular and there was a mad rush by publishers to get ANYTHING at all remotely similar to it out to market. Despite the fact that they're all the same storyline, just with different characters (werewolves, warlocks, demons, etc. etc. etc.), and they're all so poorly written.

To me, there's a difference between a "fun" book (which I'm on board with 100%) and something produced by an author that's just NOT up to snuff. What irritates me is that it seems like publishers have lower standards for what's publishable with YA books. I think teens deserve something better... it can still be light, fluffy & fun (heck, it can even be cliched! ).

Maybe I'm not reading the right YA novels. It just seems like the market is saturated with this CRAP.

Has anyone read the blog, Mark Reads Twilight?? Funniest blog I had read in a long, long time. He apparently reads other books now too... including the Hunger Games. I'm really interested in reading his comments on that trilogy.

I didn't particularly care for the Hunger Games either. The first book was "okay"...and just okay, The second one I bailed on when it started to get ridiculous.

 

[NYEmomma]

I didn't particularly care for the Hunger Games either. The first book was "okay"...and just okay, The second one I bailed on when it started to get ridiculous.

I actually really REALLY enjoyed the first book, but it just went downhill from there. The second one wasn't bad but wasn't great. The third one seemed absolutely ridiculous... like she was being forced to write it by the publishers and really had no plot/plan for it so it was all off the cuff. It seemed forced and unnatural and kind of pathetic.

 

[luvsJack]

I think the Twilight books are what they are. I read all 4 in a very short amount of time during the summer while at the beach and the lake with dd. They were perfect for that. Not too complicated to read and enjoyable. I didn't expect them to be "classic literature" or such. I think that they were very much meant to be popular with teens and they are/were

Planogirl is right, walk into the YA section of the book store and all you will find is some variation of vampires. I too hope something else comes out soon to get rid of that some. I would love to see a new series start that is completely away from vampires (dd would love to see more werewolves but that is just her Taylor crush talking )

The movies are popular because the books are popular and because someone had the intelligence to put some very nice looking young men in the lead roles (and there has to be at least a few mom's willing to admit they will go just to see Taylor!) Again, decent movies but not meant to be on scale with the classics. Not oscar contenders by any stretch, just high money makers.

Someone said that Rob hated the part of Edward. If the reason he looks so "pained" on screen is because he hates the part--that would tell us exactly the opposite of "he is a good actor". A good actor would be able to cover that up very well. Actually a good actor probably would not have taken a part he disliked so much in the first palce. It is really unprofessional of him to "purposely suck" at a part because he doesn't like it--he should have turned the offer down. (If that is the reason, its kind of funny that his "pained" look falls into place with Edward's struggle not to bite Bella)

 

[LoraJ]

I think the Twilight books are what they are. I read all 4 in a very short amount of time during the summer while at the beach and the lake with dd. They were perfect for that. Not too complicated to read and enjoyable. I didn't expect them to be "classic literature" or such. I think that they were very much meant to be popular with teens and they are/were

Planogirl is right, walk into the YA section of the book store and all you will find is some variation of vampires. I too hope something else comes out soon to get rid of that some. I would love to see a new series start that is completely away from vampires (dd would love to see more werewolves but that is just her Taylor crush talking )

The movies are popular because the books are popular and because someone had the intelligence to put some very nice looking young men in the lead roles (and there has to be at least a few mom's willing to admit they will go just to see Taylor!) Again, decent movies but not meant to be on scale with the classics. Not oscar contenders by any stretch, just high money makers.

Someone said that Rob hated the part of Edward. If the reason he looks so "pained" on screen is because he hates the part--that would tell us exactly the opposite of "he is a good actor". A good actor would be able to cover that up very well. Actually a good actor probably would not have taken a part he disliked so much in the first palce. It is really unprofessional of him to "purposely suck" at a part because he doesn't like it--he should have turned the offer down. (If that is the reason, its kind of funny that his "pained" look falls into place with Edward's struggle not to bite Bella)

I don't think Rob hates Edward. From interviews I have seen and from the DVD audio commentaries, it seems like he doesn't get how Edward could put up with Bella and her Jacob stuff among other things he finds flawed with the character. He recently said he really does love Edward and would miss playing him.

 

[charming23]

I enjoyed the Twilight books for what they were, a fun, summer read. I also enjoyed the movies for the same reason.

I will say that I am not a fan of Kristen Stewart. Her acting is not very good, in my opinion. I do however love Robert Pattinson in "Remember Me" and "Water for Elephants".

I forgot the MTV movie awards were on and am not sad I missed them. They have become awful in the past couple of years.

 

[luvsJack]

I don't think Rob hates Edward. From interviews I have seen and from the DVD audio commentaries, it seems like he doesn't get how Edward could put up with Bella and her Jacob stuff among other things he finds flawed with the character. He recently said he really does love Edward and would miss playing him.

ah, see that makes more sense. And I can see how he would question that, but even IRL teen boys (and girls) put up with a LOT of stuff that the rest of us question, all in the name of "love".

 

[tara lynn]

Rob is a really great actor in everything BUT twilight.

I agree. I enjoyed him in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire and a few small British movies I've seen him in and, more recently, I really liked him in Water for Elephants. Don't know what it is about Twilight... poor directing, bad material, lack of effort?

 

[si-am]

I agree. I enjoyed him in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire and a few small British movies I've seen him in and, more recently, I really liked him in Water for Elephants. Don't know what it is about Twilight... poor directing, bad material, lack of effort?

I think it's that the characters themselves in Twilight are so badly written and annoying. Not likable, if you really think about it.

 

[LilyWDW]

I agree. I enjoyed him in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire and a few small British movies I've seen him in and, more recently, I really liked him in Water for Elephants. Don't know what it is about Twilight... poor directing, bad material, lack of effort?

Bad material.

Like I said before, I have read the series. I enjoyed it for what it was... an easy fluff read when I didn't really want to think too hard. I think there was some interesting aspects to the story, but it wasn't the best book out there.

When you have material like that, it is really hard to make a movie from it. It is also really hard to act when that is the stuff you have to work with. Really, most of the characters are one dimensional and have very little depth. As such, there is just not that much for an actor to draw upon to put into the character.