Twelve Months of Training and Travel

[eandesmom]

We do have an anticipated time that is over a minute per mile different. It is just that an expected finish of 1:32 and and expected finish of 1:46 Don't seem like all that different to me. AND as far as corral placement. It probably will mean only a corral difference. (maybe 2 depending on if one of us gets bumped) I think the cut off for B last year was 1:30 (so I would be C unless bumped up) Cut off for C I think was 1:45 (so if he did get bumped it could be C for him as well) My thought is we are likely both to be in C.

Yeah I can see where it might feel that way, that one minute gets a little shorter when it's a 10 miler I guess. It really does depend on who registers though as to where that break is. Fun to guess but a 14 min difference in finish time is significant even if it doesn't feel like it based on Disney corrals. To put it in perspective, Jeff would come in at about a 1:18 estimated finish and I'd be at 1:30 based on our current POT's which is only a 12 min difference. In reality I'd personally expect to come in more like 1:34-1:43 depending on the heat and humidity . We too would only be one corral apart assuming I didn't get bumped down. And as you know, Jeff is significantly faster! So don't let that get to you at all.

I am getting there. I think that I have to accept that at some point I will slow. I just didn't think it would be before I turned 50

Well, continuous improvement isn't never ending, sadly. At least not in huge leaps and bounds without additional effort. I sure wish it was (speaking for me of course lol). And you aren't slowing, you just are maybe not getting much faster.

I have felt this from the start of my running. I feel as though forcing someone who is over 40 to change their biomechanics isn't a good thing. I have been moving this way for this long... this is natural to me. It is why my one "real" injury (the peroneal tendonitis) came as a result of stability shoes forcing me into a different strike than what was normal for me. (plus I think I tend to supinate a tad and only overpronate in certain shoes)

Jeff and I have had this conversation several times. I am of the school of thought that everyone should run however their body is built to run. He is an engineer. Who fully believes in heel striking as the most efficient load mechanism. From an engineering perspective of course He says he "trained" himself to heel strike back in the day when he first started running. It's what he knows and works for him. For me, it definitely is not how I run. I don't think either are wrong.

yep, I think someone told me it is like 30 seconds because it seems to me that I calculated that an 11:30 pace would not be out of the realm of possibility if it were 80 or so. Which stinks! But..given how warm it was on Tuesday I could totally see why. I did not run in the highest of the day, but wow...even earlier it was warm and I did feel like my energy was being sucked out of me in order to fuel the rising heat in the air.

After yesterday, I'm going with the 30 seconds. BLEH. I think the heat rose 10 degrees over the course of my run.

I am not sure what has been up with the humidity here. I check each morning when I go out and it is always up over 70% if not closer to 100%.

Early morning is usually high, I actually think that's pretty normal for here in the summer

I think the "excusing" is part of my trouble too. So while I look for a concrete reason for my pace I suspect that it really is more due to that mental game.

I know it is. I definitely "excused" yesterday. True. It was hot. My legs were chafing. My bunion hurt.

Still excuses. I didn't have to walk a couple of times, or take a bio break. I chose to. Did it stay within the "easy pace" that McMillan would have me at? Yes. Did I really need it to be that easy? Or was I just copping out, being a little bit lazy, a little bit unmotivated, knowing I was well within the range that I am supposed to be for an easy run as well as a long run, telling myself that I'm pushing the miles, no need to push pace too? There's the real question. Excuses. Well except maybe not wanting my legs to actually bleed, I did slow a couple of times just to let them rest and hopefully cool a little and avoid actual skin tear. But the reality is my legs felt fine the whole time, outside of the chafing. I mentally wasn't quite 100% there. That's what it comes down to for me and I need to somehow get past that. I fear somehow it will be easy for me to decide to walk a little at the half, to take a bio break even if I don't truly need to, that it's not supposed to be a PR race for most (though regardless of course, it will be for me) and I'll cop out under the guise of the "experience". If that makes any sense.

As for if it hurt you...mattered. yeah, I am with you. I am not sure. In the end you ran an incredible race and took home a price in your division. That is something to definitely celebrate. However when you start to second guess and realize you may have even been able to due better... or better yet when you KNOW you could do better that is when it really does start to be a question of if it mattered or not. Course, in the end I suppose it only matters if it matters to you regardless of how well or poor you did.

I am not sure I've had a race where I didn't "know" I could do better. If I have it would be that first 10K. There is almost always something that could be improved. Sometimes quite minor and sometimes less so.

Last year, they were paused. So the time and miles stopped while I got my drink or took my potty break. I kinda feel like you are right. I mean... those pauses gave my body a chance to "recharge" and so I do not know it is fair to compare one time to another.

I've started leaving all my pauses and breaks in. While I may not like the numbers, at the end of the day it feels a little more honest to me. The only time I'll adjust is for a stoplight. That's not a race condition.

I would really like to think that I will do 100 a month from now until January 1. However, it is a bit crazy. While I have the halfs that will take my miles up... I also have a lot of tapers in there. So I could see that being a challenge. we will see though.

100 also doesn't give much chance for recovery, tapers aside! IF I stick to my plan (and I expect I will even if I whine a little lol), I'll come in at 81 for July and 89 for August. YIKES!

Railroad days does look like fun, Jeff wasn't into driving up there but you never know, I need to re-look at it. Only other think we are considering is Torchlight.

So guess what? We finally have a plan of who is going.

When I first formed the notion of this trip in my head I really thought it would just be Steve, Zoe and myself. Then I was made to realize that there was a small problem with this plan.


What to do with Miss Zoe while Steve and I are at the race??!! I kinda feel like she is almost to a point where leaving her sleeping in the room would have been ok. Well maybe in another year or two. maybe 3. She will be just weeks shy of 10 when we are there in January.

The question became who.

Who did we know who could afford the airfare (we didn't want that added cost), could chip in their own spending money (again we didn't want that cost), had that time available (vacation time or school can certainly get in the way of fun), was not a huge person (we will be in a studio and having 2 boys who are like bulls in a china shop constantly - it would be nice to have a small person who we wouldn't be tripping over constantly), was not prone to eating the amount required for a small army (again see "didn't want added cost" comment), who would appreciate going (I will explain how that factors in) and who would WANT to go (shocking as it may sound not everyone wants to take a trip to Disney).



After going down our list we quickly decided that many of our family members would be out for one reason or another. This made us think of our nieces. We have 5 total none of whom have been to Disney and 4 of whom are all of babysitting age.

My brother's daughter fell off the list because I rarely speak to my brother and have not seen her since well before her dad and mom got divorced. (maybe as much as 10 years ago? )

Steve's brother has 3 girls total. 2 are older than Zoe. The "appreciate" came into play here. The oldest will graduate in 2015 from high school so my first thought was that this would be a great way to celebrate that. However, there is baggage there that needs not going into a long story over. Suffice it to say two things caused not only the older one but the next one to fall off our list. Both are things that are the fault of the parents and not the girls. Entitlement and Reciprocity. Both parents feel as though things should be given to them. (side tmi rant.. yes, they "needed" to get all new furniture for their home..like the entire home.. got fil to cosign on a loan and then never made payments so now fil is paying for their furniture. Steve's sister.. she took out a second mortgage on her home so bil could have health coverage and other things for his family... so yes, they are over the top entitled) So we knew that if we offered for one they would be upset if we didn't offer to take all of them. Also I personally am a bit petty regarding starting to give anything to their kids. I used to. I use to be a good aunt that sent them stuff all the time. However nothing came to my kids... not even for christmas. So when Kira graduated and then later got married and there was not even a card... yep, I am petty. At that point I cut things back just to Christmas presents. (even though they still send nothing and never say thank you)

I can relate to this. We really really struggled with this regarding my nephew that did not make the NYE trip. We offered food and room and park ticket. All my brother and/or his ex needed to come up with was flight and spending money. And they couldn't/wouldn't. It is their choice but grr it made me mad. At the same time none of us wanted to feed the problem...the problem of him expecting everyone else to pay for stuff while he spends his money on (what we see as) less important things.

14 is a really lovely age actually. Old enough to take the job seriously but still really enjoy Disney. And young enough that missing school (middle school I assume) is really not an issue for a few days. This will be a very special trip for her!

 

[annmarieda]

Ann, that sounds like a great line up of "characters" to go on the trip. Your niece looks cute.

Thanks, Karin. Miss P is a sweetie for sure. It will be fun to have her along

Oh, and btw - there is one like your SIL/BIL?? in every family. I have a cousin who after we invited and paid for her and her little girl's trip to DLP decided a week shy of travel date that she "did not feel like it".
We were left with the cost and when I told her that this was the first and last time we would invite her, she chose no longer to speak to us ...... her loss, we spoilt that little girl rotten.

It is such a shame.... when those we care about over look the things we attempt to do for them. I know I shouldn't take it out on the girls... I had started to relax until I saw a picture on facebook that was posted with one of them at some protest or rally with a sign that read "my mother taught me to share" I just kinda feel like they might be learning some wrong messages. Not that sharing is bad... but sharing in my mind does not mean what I think they think it does. It is not a one way street.

Yeah I can see where it might feel that way, that one minute gets a little shorter when it's a 10 miler I guess. It really does depend on who registers though as to where that break is. Fun to guess but a 14 min difference in finish time is significant even if it doesn't feel like it based on Disney corrals. To put it in perspective, Jeff would come in at about a 1:18 estimated finish and I'd be at 1:30 based on our current POT's which is only a 12 min difference. In reality I'd personally expect to come in more like 1:34-1:43 depending on the heat and humidity . We too would only be one corral apart assuming I didn't get bumped down. And as you know, Jeff is significantly faster! So don't let that get to you at all.

Well, for now the plan will be to not fight the heat and humidity at ToT and just run together to enjoy the race. So it won't matter what corral either of us are in. Course, he is doing his version of training which amounts to one for ever 3 or 4 of my days. Course... he is such a pill...for him he still progresses. I would end up being a slug on a couch if I did not run but once ever week and a half.

Well, continuous improvement isn't never ending, sadly. At least not in huge leaps and bounds without additional effort. I sure wish it was (speaking for me of course lol). And you aren't slowing, you just are maybe not getting much faster.

I think that is it in a nutshell... and so I pretty much am just not getting faster.

Jeff and I have had this conversation several times. I am of the school of thought that everyone should run however their body is built to run. He is an engineer. Who fully believes in heel striking as the most efficient load mechanism. From an engineering perspective of course He says he "trained" himself to heel strike back in the day when he first started running. It's what he knows and works for him. For me, it definitely is not how I run. I don't think either are wrong.

I really don't try to correct. I just think for whatever reason things are shifting for me a tad. Which I am fine with... if I allow my body to dictate how it needs to move while not completely losing form, I figure I am going to be less prone to injury.

After yesterday, I'm going with the 30 seconds. BLEH. I think the heat rose 10 degrees over the course of my run.

Bleh is right! I bet you are right... 10 degrees in a hour or so seems exactly how fast the temps have been rising.

Early morning is usually high, I actually think that's pretty normal for here in the summer

I think you are right.

I know it is. I definitely "excused" yesterday. True. It was hot. My legs were chafing. My bunion hurt.

I am so sorry you had to experience the chafing. it totally sucks. Not only does it hurt, but it really makes the run difficult. At least for me once that friction starts to happen it is like I slow down. Yuck...

Still excuses. I didn't have to walk a couple of times, or take a bio break. I chose to. Did it stay within the "easy pace" that McMillan would have me at? Yes. Did I really need it to be that easy? Or was I just copping out, being a little bit lazy, a little bit unmotivated, knowing I was well within the range that I am supposed to be for an easy run as well as a long run, telling myself that I'm pushing the miles, no need to push pace too? There's the real question. Excuses. Well except maybe not wanting my legs to actually bleed, I did slow a couple of times just to let them rest and hopefully cool a little and avoid actual skin tear. But the reality is my legs felt fine the whole time, outside of the chafing. I mentally wasn't quite 100% there. That's what it comes down to for me and I need to somehow get past that. I fear somehow it will be easy for me to decide to walk a little at the half, to take a bio break even if I don't truly need to, that it's not supposed to be a PR race for most (though regardless of course, it will be for me) and I'll cop out under the guise of the "experience". If that makes any sense.

It does make sense. And honestly, I think I fall victim to it at each disney race. It is probably why I only do halfs at disney. I have an "excuse" should I need one. I think I will probably walk through water stops, but attempt to run the entire half outside of that. It is a mind game for sure and I think that is my game plan that I am forming in my head. It is amazing what we can do or don't do if we tell ourselves we have to or allow ourselves not to.

I am not sure I've had a race where I didn't "know" I could do better. If I have it would be that first 10K. There is almost always something that could be improved. Sometimes quite minor and sometimes less so.

Yeah.. I suppose you are right. I guess it is all a matter of how minor. Walk up a hill you knew you could have ran or not sprint at the end are a ways from each other on the spectrum.

I've started leaving all my pauses and breaks in. While I may not like the numbers, at the end of the day it feels a little more honest to me. The only time I'll adjust is for a stoplight. That's not a race condition.

I actually was thinking about this recently and remembering a discussion we once had on it. I had said that I figured I needed a true running pace so I would have an idea of how much time I could break and still be ok. Now though, I think I am more of your opinion that a break might give a better indication of race conditions. I don't know.... I have been wondering about it that is for sure.

100 also doesn't give much chance for recovery, tapers aside! IF I stick to my plan (and I expect I will even if I whine a little lol), I'll come in at 81 for July and 89 for August. YIKES!

Isn't it just crazy to think?

Railroad days does look like fun, Jeff wasn't into driving up there but you never know, I need to re-look at it. Only other think we are considering is Torchlight.

Snoqualmie is still quite a drive for us, but parking is easy peasy. I kinda always worry about parking for the Seattle races. I think that has been one of the reason I have shied away from them.

I can relate to this. We really really struggled with this regarding my nephew that did not make the NYE trip. We offered food and room and park ticket. All my brother and/or his ex needed to come up with was flight and spending money. And they couldn't/wouldn't. It is their choice but grr it made me mad. At the same time none of us wanted to feed the problem...the problem of him expecting everyone else to pay for stuff while he spends his money on (what we see as) less important things.

It is very frustrating. I can appreciate we all spend money on various things. What is important to one is not necessarily important to another. But...

14 is a really lovely age actually. Old enough to take the job seriously but still really enjoy Disney. And young enough that missing school (middle school I assume) is really not an issue for a few days. This will be a very special trip for her!

Yep, this is kinda how I looked at it. While if she were older maybe she could take Zoe out of the room... I think that there are more positives to her being just old enough that it out weighs that she might be a tad young. Also...Zoe is use to being home with Alex and despite the fact he is "in charge" (after all he will be 19 on his next bday) she really (if I am honest) tends to herself more than not. He knows where she is... makes sure she gets a lunch.. but that is about it. So she is pretty capable herself. So between the two of them I am pretty sure they will be just fine.

 

[swwake]

Miss P is so cute! How exciting that you're taking her along. You may remember we took my niece in Dec 2011 - as a gift to her. She loves Disney and aspires to do the CP and maybe one day be a princess face character.

 

[KatMark]

Ann, I am so glad you have the "who is going" settled. And this sounds like the absolute perfect solution for you. And I think Zoe will really love having a girl closer to her age to hang with during the trip.

 

[Ariel484]

I forgot to mention a couple things.

First, remember my burger ban for the month of June? Well, I survived. (barely) I think Red Robin knew I was avoiding burgers. It was crazy how many emails I got with images of juicy burgers telling me that I could come in and get a discount on one. What torture! My kids thought I was crazy. The last week was hard. Especially when Alex would mock me about "disciplining" myself. I think that word has come to mean only negative things to younger people. To me discipline is just an exercise of control... self or otherwise. Something to correct behavior or to train. It doesn't have to mean negative things. July 1st though, I had a cheeseburger from Mickey D's. Just the small one...nothing fancy. It was disappointing. I should have known it would be. Now though, I am kinda no longer craving a burger. Maybe I just need a really good one.

Yay for surviving no-burger June! Now go get yourself a REAL burger!

Second, I twisted my ankle while hiking last thursday. I wasn't watching my footing, slipped off a rock and twisted my ankle. Obviously not too terrible given I could run on it. It just makes me frustrated with myself for putting myself at "risk" like that. As I said, it isn't terrible given I was able to run 11 miles on Saturday. It is just that when running or not, I have to pay attention to it because it isn't pain free. Seems like if I turn on that foot or land on it just right it ends up making my ankle ache the rest of the day. The heat does it no favors either. I have trouble with edema. My ankles have been known to swell up to the point of not being able to see that little joint on the side of my foot. When this happens my old injury on the other ankle acts up. So I have both my ankles that just are achy right now. I need to dig out my compression socks for at night to get this under control. Tuesday was a run day and a hot one. So I did spend the evening doing an ice bath for both feet. It did help. I ran today though and am achey again... sooo I am thinking ice and compression will be the festivities of the evening. Maybe the combination will get it completely under control...

So glad your ankle is okay! I hope you can figure out a good solution for those achy ankles, that sounds sort of terrible.

AND because shopping in always important when it comes to training.

Obviously I agree with this.

I purchased a couple new to me sparkle skirts. I think one is going to work perfect for the ToT and then the other probably I will use for January. I actually might use one for the ToT and the PHM. (speaking of which registration is now just 6 days away. )

OOOOH NEW SPARKLESKIRTS!!! Can't wait to see some pictures!

Today Sweaty Bands is having a sale. 40% off. So I got quite a few bands Mostly I picked based on the races I have coming up. However a couple I threw in just for fun. Well, fun and given that I will be doing the ToT in 2015 I couldn't resist one that will be perfect for that race. After all...is it ever too early to start planning your running outfit for a disney race?

So I promise, once I get the outfits complete I will start to post pictures of them. I can't wait everything to come.

40% off Sweaty Bands is a great deal! They used to never go on sale and I feel like they have been a bit more often lately.

And OF COURSE it's never too early to plan a Disney race outfit!!

So guess what? We finally have a plan of who is going.

That has got to be a relief. Sounds like you came up with a great solution - hooray for Miss P! Should be a really fun weekend. You clearly put a lot of thought into it and I hope she enjoys herself!!

 

[annmarieda]

Just had to share... registered for the phm!!!

 

[KatMark]

Just had to share... registered for the phm!!!

 

[ZellyB]

Just had to share... registered for the phm!!!

Awesome!!

 

[dizneeat]

Just had to share... registered for the phm!!!

Yeah, congratulations!!!

 

[MEK]

Just had to share... registered for the phm!!!

I just saw on Facebook that Danielle (IheartDDuck) just registered for this and then I remembered that you and Cynthia were doing it.

I was supposed to be going to DL that week.

But then Denny said he didn't want to go to DL until later in the year.

But I have DVC points that I want to use.

So I switched my plans to WDW/Vero Beach (tentatively). It's not the 7 month window yet.

I might have to come out and cheer you gals on. But it actually looks like such a fun race and even I can run better than the 16 minute mile cut off.

Hmmmmmm

 

[Woth2982]

Just had to share... registered for the phm!!!

Yay!!! I am still trying to decide if I am gonna or not.

 

[sumlee]

Just had to share... registered for the phm!!!

Woo-hoo! Awesome!!!

 

[eandesmom]

Just had to share... registered for the phm!!!

Me too me too me too!!!!

Lol!

Yay!

I did find it odd they had the team option there but then when you clicked the link it said everyone had to register first and then you set up a team. Kind of looked like maybe one person registers the team? Confusing a bit but didn't seem like something we had to do right away.

 

[Twoboysnmygirl]

Just had to share... registered for the phm!!!

Whooohooo!!

 

[Ariel484]

Just had to share... registered for the phm!!!

Yay!!! Sometimes that is the most stressful part of these Disney races!

 

[annmarieda]

Miss P is so cute! How exciting that you're taking her along. You may remember we took my niece in Dec 2011 - as a gift to her. She loves Disney and aspires to do the CP and maybe one day be a princess face character.

I remember you taking your niece. Such a shame we never met up on that trip. I know you and Ashley were able to run into each other... I may be a tad jealous of her for that.

Ann, I am so glad you have the "who is going" settled. And this sounds like the absolute perfect solution for you. And I think Zoe will really love having a girl closer to her age to hang with during the trip.

I too am so glad. I think it will be fun to have someone else along with us. I do feel a tad guilty that it can't be all of them. I really feel every kid should go to disney at least once.

Yay for surviving no-burger June! Now go get yourself a REAL burger!

Well, in 10 days time I have now had 5 burgers. A couple have been real failures..a couple were good and one was just ok. I have a problem with burgers obviously.

So glad your ankle is okay! I hope you can figure out a good solution for those achy ankles, that sounds sort of terrible.

It is totally fine now.. they do ache when it gets hot and they swell...but nothing that would stop my running.

Obviously I agree with this.

Yeah, I am thinking both of us had a good week of shopping

OOOOH NEW SPARKLESKIRTS!!! Can't wait to see some pictures!

Well as I told you I totally messed one up. It came to me in almost new condition. It was said to have been warn only for like one run. But it was musty smelling like it had been in a garage. I threw it by itself into my HE washer on delicate. The glitter washed away in at least 50% of the spots. Now, the good news is that the swirls on the skirt (it is a mimosa) are not exact. So with a fine point glitter bond I should be able to trace over them just fine. The issue is matching the glitter. I bought an orange jewel fabric glitter made by Tulip. I am really really hoping it matches. Orange is hard... too yellow or too brown is what I was coming up against. I need more of a red orange. Once I get it fixed (if I get it fixed, but I am optimistic) I will post it with my race outfit. One way or another I am running in it for the ToT and either the donald or the phm.

This is the other one I got. She is missing some of her sparkles but was sold to me really cheap so I totally don't mind. Plus can you really tell that she is shedding?

40% off Sweaty Bands is a great deal! They used to never go on sale and I feel like they have been a bit more often lately.

I wonder if people feel that $15 to $20 for a head band is a bit high? But what isn't pricey when it comes to running?

And OF COURSE it's never too early to plan a Disney race outfit!!

Once it comes I will be able to decide on a shirt and or skirt. Both RT and SS have some options that might match...but then again might totally not. I think I will plan to bring it to an expo to color match it.

That has got to be a relief. Sounds like you came up with a great solution - hooray for Miss P! Should be a really fun weekend. You clearly put a lot of thought into it and I hope she enjoys herself!!

I think it will be a lot of fun. I can't wait to have her there!

It really was exciting! So much of this year has been spent contemplating this race. It was just a relief to finally register.

Awesome!!

It will be. It isn't my favorite disney race, but it is very fun and I can't wait to have another gal around to enjoy this "women centered" race with. Last time I did it, dh and dd came to support me. It just kinda wasn't the same

Yeah, congratulations!!!

Thanks! I just wish that someone was not breaking from routine and would be there during that time.

I just saw on Facebook that Danielle (IheartDDuck) just registered for this and then I remembered that you and Cynthia were doing it.

I was supposed to be going to DL that week.

But then Denny said he didn't want to go to DL until later in the year.

But I have DVC points that I want to use.

So I switched my plans to WDW/Vero Beach (tentatively). It's not the 7 month window yet.

I might have to come out and cheer you gals on. But it actually looks like such a fun race and even I can run better than the 16 minute mile cut off.

Hmmmmmm

Well, I know Cynthia has had plenty of opportunity to see you...but meeting you would certainly be a treat for me. And I might be a tad biased, but I always think everyone should try a disney race. They are SO fun!! I am sure you could do it an not get swept.

Yay!!! I am still trying to decide if I am gonna or not.

Well, GSC is sold out to early registration so if that was your goal...you have to wait till next week. If not... I think there are still early registration spots for the other races.

Woo-hoo! Awesome!!!

Thanks! I am looking forward to doing this race. It will be a short trip (the shortest I have ever done to the east coast but I think it will be very special.

Me too me too me too!!!!

Lol!

Yay!

I am so glad!!! Would kinda suck in a MAJOR way if somehow you were unable to register.

I did find it odd they had the team option there but then when you clicked the link it said everyone had to register first and then you set up a team. Kind of looked like maybe one person registers the team? Confusing a bit but didn't seem like something we had to do right away.

It was my understanding that each of us had to register as an individual first. So I have no idea why that was even on there.

Whooohooo!!

I am pretty excited! I love girls trips so this will be a real treat.

Yay!!! Sometimes that is the most stressful part of these Disney races!

right? OMG, and the DVC discount code was not working so I was frantically trying to use it without losing my place. It was a relief when I finally just completed the registration. I guess the discount some of us who emailed RD about the discount not working have already received word that they will get that refunded.

 

[dizneeat]

Thanks! I just wish that someone was not breaking from routine and would be there during that time.

Someone is letting you down?????? I wonder who it could be.

 

[eandesmom]

Well, in 10 days time I have now had 5 burgers. A couple have been real failures..a couple were good and one was just ok. I have a problem with burgers obviously.

We will HAVE to have one in DL. Hopefully the Trader Sam's one Friday night!

I wonder if people feel that $15 to $20 for a head band is a bit high? But what isn't pricey when it comes to running?

It is high, it's why I only have 2. The Lulu one I want is only $14 and I keep hesitating as that seems like a lot. the other 2 I got on clearance for around $5 each lol. But I need more, it's definitely become a requirement for me for summer long runs.

Once it comes I will be able to decide on a shirt and or skirt. Both RT and SS have some options that might match...but then again might totally not. I think I will plan to bring it to an expo to color match it.

I never really thought about sparkles coming off, that is a total drag and way too high maintenance for me. In the summer I can only wear things once before washing and I do toss it all in the machine. Granted, all tech fabrics, no mixing with cotton and on a short cycle but I can see where that wouldn't work with sparkles.

It will be. It isn't my favorite disney race, but it is very fun and I can't wait to have another gal around to enjoy this "women centered" race with. Last time I did it, dh and dd came to support me. It just kinda wasn't the same

No, it would not be the same if it was with Jeff. Girls trip! I also wish Karin was going to be there at the same time!!!!!!!!!!

Well, I know Cynthia has had plenty of opportunity to see you...but meeting you would certainly be a treat for me. And I might be a tad biased, but I always think everyone should try a disney race. They are SO fun!! I am sure you could do it an not get swept.

She wouldn't be remotely close to being swept. She could walk it tomorrow I bet and not be swept.

Her feet would not be happy but I don't think she'd be swept.

Thanks! I am looking forward to doing this race. It will be a short trip (the shortest I have ever done to the east coast but I think it will be very special.

This will be my 3rd girls trip of that length and while yes, it's shorter than ideal it's also kind of perfect to not feel totally guilty ditching the gang at home. The red eye does help maximize it, as does the late return.

It will be VERY special.

I am so glad!!! Would kinda suck in a MAJOR way if somehow you were unable to register.

No kidding!!!! that would be a nightmare all around.

It was my understanding that each of us had to register as an individual first. So I have no idea why that was even on there.

agreed!

 

[annmarieda]

Someone is letting you down?????? I wonder who it could be.

Seriously though, you will be missed!

We will HAVE to have one in DL. Hopefully the Trader Sam's one Friday night!

Assuming it is a good one at Trader Sam's, I am totally in. I know the one I had at Hungry Bear did not make me long for another one there.

It is high, it's why I only have 2. The Lulu one I want is only $14 and I keep hesitating as that seems like a lot. the other 2 I got on clearance for around $5 each lol. But I need more, it's definitely become a requirement for me for summer long runs.

I was happy to get them on sale. My total came out to be an average of about $5 each...so I thought it wasn't too bad of a deal. Course, I am cheap and that is still the most I have paid for head bands to date.

I never really thought about sparkles coming off, that is a total drag and way too high maintenance for me. In the summer I can only wear things once before washing and I do toss it all in the machine. Granted, all tech fabrics, no mixing with cotton and on a short cycle but I can see where that wouldn't work with sparkles.

I really really love my comicrelief skirt. I will be honest...that thing gets worn and tossed in the wash and then in the dryer. Not ideal...but it holds up. I think athletic wear should hold up. I guess that is my issue with the more fancy ones. Maybe they are not meant to be worn to run in? I know a lot of people on the fb group wear them to even work. I got the mimosa skirt used (but only worn once). I paid less then new for it. (amazingly a lot the skirts go for the cost of new with the seller paying shipping) It still wasn't cheap... most expensive running item I have purchased next to shoes and the cwx tights. Such a bummer that I washed all the sparkle off. I am really anxiously waiting for the glitter to come so I can try and fix it.

No, it would not be the same if it was with Jeff. Girls trip! I also wish Karin was going to be there at the same time!!!!!!!!!!

Agreed... not that having the guys around isn't fun...but when so many princesses seem to be there with other princesses it seems odd.

She wouldn't be remotely close to being swept. She could walk it tomorrow I bet and not be swept.

Her feet would not be happy but I don't think she'd be swept.

I agree! She could totally do it!

This will be my 3rd girls trip of that length and while yes, it's shorter than ideal it's also kind of perfect to not feel totally guilty ditching the gang at home. The red eye does help maximize it, as does the late return.

I think even though it is shorter.. it will work out nicely because without our families we will each be able to focus on our own needs rather than worry if everyone else is getting to do what they want. So in my mind we need less time.

It will be VERY special.

I am so excited. I think this will be the perfect "last race" in the series I have.

No kidding!!!! that would be a nightmare all around.

Exactly.

 

[Ariel484]

Well as I told you I totally messed one up. It came to me in almost new condition. It was said to have been warn only for like one run. But it was musty smelling like it had been in a garage. I threw it by itself into my HE washer on delicate. The glitter washed away in at least 50% of the spots. Now, the good news is that the swirls on the skirt (it is a mimosa) are not exact. So with a fine point glitter bond I should be able to trace over them just fine. The issue is matching the glitter. I bought an orange jewel fabric glitter made by Tulip. I am really really hoping it matches. Orange is hard... too yellow or too brown is what I was coming up against. I need more of a red orange. Once I get it fixed (if I get it fixed, but I am optimistic) I will post it with my race outfit. One way or another I am running in it for the ToT and either the donald or the phm.

That stinks! I hope you're able to get it back into working condition. Stuff like that really worries me with the SparkleSkirts, so I don't have any of the special sparkly ones - all of the ones I have are the "basic" ones, so they do okay in the washer.

This is the other one I got. She is missing some of her sparkles but was sold to me really cheap so I totally don't mind. Plus can you really tell that she is shedding?

Ooooooh...pretty! I don't think you can tell at all!

I wonder if people feel that $15 to $20 for a head band is a bit high? But what isn't pricey when it comes to running?

I think you're absolutely right. They must not have been selling that many. It seems not to matter too much for say, SS and RT, but SB must have been feeling the pressure to run more sales. Fine by me!