TURKISH morality leaves USA in the dust!!!!

[EROS]

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) - Turkey's parliament abolished the death penalty and granted more rights to minority Kurds Saturday, taking a major step forward in its bid to join the European Union.

The EU made abolishing the death penalty a condition for Turkey to join the group, while international groups have long lobbied for an end to restrictions on Kurdish education and language-use.

In Brussels, an EU statement welcomed the moves as "significant steps toward better protection of human rights and the rights of minorities in Turkey," but said it would carefully monitor their implementation.

The United States strongly supports the predominantly Muslim but secular nation's EU membership. Washington has touted NATO-member Turkey as a possible model for other Muslim states.

Saturday's measures will replace the death penalty with life imprisonment without the possibility of parole. Capital punishment remains on the books, however, during times of war.

Turkey has not executed anyone since 1984, although courts regularly impose death sentences. Dozens of people are on death row.

 

[Bob O]

A bad move by Turkey and it shows the furthur folly of being involved in international orginzations such as the EU or UN where they try to take away a countries sovernity to go along with the group ideas of how things should be done. Its not to any countries benefit to join a orginzation that will strip you of your rights to govern yourself in the manner you choose to do.

 

[Mamu]

Do you really believe this rubbish? Most never make it to court.

 

[EROS]

BOB, sooooooooooooooooo sorry that you're disappointed . However, on a PLUS note, I think that you'd lovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvve Turkish prisons ; the guards there really know how to extend hospitality and Pixie Dust to each and every prisoner ...........

 

[Bob O]

EROS What was the movie that featured turkish prisons, Midnight Run?? Their prisons may bee a little harsh but IMHO prisons should be harsh and should be run in the same manner as they were at the time of this countries founding. If it wasnt cruel and unusual punishment when the constitution was written it shouldnt be now. For alot of criminals going to prison is a improvement in their lifestyle so it is no deterrent.

 

[TheLionKing]

::sits back with a box of

 

[EROS]

BOB, I KNOW that you must have this movie in your,"Our penal system sucks because it's toooooooooo soft on felons" collection . Hey, the good people of nearby Salem, Ma. just loved to use stocks, dunking, and even stoning in the 1700s. Of course, they "accidentally" convicted and executed a few innocents of witchcraft, but their heart was probably in the right place, right??

 

[Bob O]

TLK, i hope you share the popcorn!!!! I can use some when i see Signs tomorrow!!
Yeah midnight express was the movie!! The witches of salem didnt have lawyers and most of the liberal media to defend their actions did they?? And to me that wouldnt have been a crime! Maybe we could learn from Iraq-People who sexaully assualt and then kill children could be placed into a sack
and then thrown off a cliff, and then if they live they could be hung!!! Of course i would offer the criminal a chance to have a trial and a lawyer but once the verdict is in the filling of the sack could begin!!

 

[JohnTBap]

Originally posted by EROS


ANKARA, Turkey (AP) - Turkey's parliament abolished the death penalty and granted more rights to minority Kurds Saturday, taking a major step forward in its bid to join the European Union.

I'm a little behind in studying my facts on Turkey, admittedly, but the above concerns me more than the abolishment of the death penalty. It seems as though there are at least two groups (maybe more?) in Turkish society and that these groups do not enjoy equal rights. This, to me, is more disturbing than the death penalty simply because it has the power to affect the quality of life for a greater number of people.

 

[EROS]

JTB, of course we know that Jesus loved alllllllllllll of his children . Unfortunately, the world does NOT adhere to the New Testatment, though I'm certain that YOU follow it to the letter because you always seem to turn the other cheek to me . In any event, even in "democratic" societies like the good ole U.S. of A. we KNOW that all citizens have never been treated equally...........any SOUTHENER like yourself knows that . Even in the Massachusetts "land of the Kennedys" we've had institutionalized racism for years.......not just against blacks; there were many signs in the late 1800s, early 1900s that said:
IRISH NEED NOT APPLY .

 

[JohnTBap]

Yes, I agree that there is a gap between theory and practice. At least we have the theory, which they do not. This leaves me to assert that the title of this thread is a hyperbole. In fact, they aren't even abolishing the death penalty because of their beliefs but rather are doing it because of pressure from external sources.

 

[EROS]

Originally posted by JohnTBap
At least we have the theory, which they do not. .

We've had "the theory" since the Declaration of Independence was signed. Of course, let's not forget that many of the original signers had SLAVES. America has always been a land of equality and equal opportunity for all............NOT!!!.

Hey, I thought that you only did biblical commentaries ......

 

[JohnTBap]

I'm sure you're not aware that my curriculum for Social Studies is American History, so I do try to be a little knowledgable, but I KNOW that I could never match wits with a Ivy League Bostonian such as yourself.

Sorry if I crashed your thread sunshine.


Back to FLUFF.

 

[EROS]

JOHNTBAP, shouldn't you be out there procreating or cooking or cleaning the house??? . Where in the Bible does it say that WOMEN should concern themselves with geopolitical concerns????

 

[TheLionKing]

I think I will need to refill my popcorn tub.

 

[glo]

TLK can you get me some while you are there???

 

[EROS]

GLO, I think that JTB must be toooooooooooo busy procreating to be able to respond to my post . I'll share the popcorn with you IF you'll add some of those hot Cuban spices .....

 

[Bob O]

Of course in Mass. the kennedy's arent treated equally and can even get away with murder with only a slap on the hand!!!
Is the US perfect, no, but we do have procdures to undo the wrongs we have created. And do you think many people who are black would want to leave this country and live in the freedom loving countries of Africa??

 

[EROS]

Originally posted by Bob O
Of course in Mass. the kennedy's arent treated equally and can even get away with murder with only a slap on the hand!!!

Hey, BOB, we FINALLY agree about something . If you or I had driven Mary Jo across that bridge, we would have been found guilty of involuntary manslaughter faster than Bill Clinton could unzip his trousers ......

We may have institutional ways to address gross and illegal discrimination, but it ALSO takes political will............

 

[WebmasterAlex]

I think JTB got ya... it has NOTHING to do with their morality... it's exclusively an economic and politcal decision based on the benefits they feel they will reap by gaining EU membership.