Tragic story

That happens in hospitals all across the country on a regular basis. A major part of the problem is the over prescribing of antibiotics to patients who really don't need them but insist on leaving the doctors office with a script which have made many bacteria resistant to treatment.

Anne
 
Ok I agree that antibiotics are way overprescribed, but people do not go in to deliver a baby and come out a quadruple amputee on a regular basis.

Alos, I don't see how saying "yes, another patient on your floor had the same bacteria," violates any patient privacy laws. It's not like there was a public list of who was on the floor.
 
Ok I agree that antibiotics are way overprescribed, but people do not go in to deliver a baby and come out a quadruple amputee on a regular basis.

Alos, I don't see how saying "yes, another patient on your floor had the same bacteria," violates any patient privacy laws. It's not like there was a public list of who was on the floor.


I think that statement is misleading...

it says she developed complications and 12 days later was transported and had her quadruple amputation due to the afflictions mentioned in the article.

It isn't like they did a c-section and said...well...since were here...let's chop off her arms and legs.


I've lived here since 1997 and must say that in the nearly 10 years--that is the one and only case...so to imply it doesn't happen on a regular basis....well indeed you are correct.
 

I do agree that people in hospitals contract some forms of strep everyday. My dh did when he was in the hospital for over a month.
If she was in the hospital for 12 days due to complications, I would think her Dr. kept her informed as to what those complications were. It seems to me she wants to know how she contracted the disease, if the hospital says another patient had it on her floor, then that means someone on the hospital staff did not follow procedure for cross contamination, by washing hands before touching another patient. That is how most diseases are spread thruout the hospital. I am no expert, but it seems to me that the hospital is trying very hard to ward off a law suit but is handling the whole situation very badly.
 
Women go in to deliver a bay, and come out with no legs or arms? :confused3

No, people go in for routine medical procedures and end up having a limb amputated to save their life after getting a severe systemic bacterial infection.

Anne
 
Wow! If you get sick at WDW make sure you aren't taken to Orlando Regional Medical Center!

Please note that the problem surfaced at a different hospital. The woman was taken to ORMC for the surgery. To the original poster, could you please modify the title as it is misleading.
 
Women go in to deliver a bay, and come out with no legs or arms? :confused3


That isn't what happened. She had complications, 12 days after delivery she was transferred and with what she had--I suppose she could die...or be a quad amputee.

I think the biggest deal in the article is she isn't being properly informed on how this happened per Fla State Law.

In any case--she didn't show up, deliver, and they decide she needs to have all her limbs cut off.


This thread is just full of misunderstanding when the article has plenty of information to indicate she wasn't amputated by accident or anything.
 
Wow! If you get sick at WDW make sure you aren't taken to Orlando Regional Medical Center!

http://www.wftv.com/news/6253589/detail.html

This poor woman, I can't believe it!


This could happen at any hospital anywhere across the country. The only way to avoid something like this from ever happening again is never go into any hospital anywhere.

One thing I don't get thoguh is what is she trying to find out? She knows she caught the infection at the hospital so what am I missing. Does she want to know exactly how? Because how would anybody know that?
 
One thing I don't get thoguh is what is she trying to find out? She knows she caught the infection at the hospital so what am I missing. Does she want to know exactly how? Because how would anybody know that?

Here is my thought. Hospitals probably do internal reviews when something like this happens. I am guessing there was either some health code violation uncovered which would implicate the hospital in some sort of negligence or wrongdoing, or there is some information in the report they cannot reveal for HIPPA purposes.

If it was HIPPA-related, they could redact the name of the patient with the infection, and still release the information.

If it was a typical case of "she got a staph infection," I don't think they would object to the release of information.

I think they are hiding something, and are buying time to get their ducks in a row before they release it.

I would hire an attorney if I were her.

Denae
 
One thing I don't get thoguh is what is she trying to find out? She knows she caught the infection at the hospital so what am I missing. Does she want to know exactly how? Because how would anybody know that?

I think it would be important to know the "how" (not names or anything) b/c if there was a problem in the hospital as a result of negligence, she would be entitled to some compensation. However--since there probably wasn't an outbreak on the maternity ward, she may have just fell victim to bad circumstance.

They sited a Florida Law about a Patient's right to know--so even if it doesn't result in a lawsuit or compensation, the simple matter is she is entitled to know why she required the amputations and how she came to need that course of action.

Since the hospital is unwilling to cooperate--this is why this story has become such a big deal.

They are either hiding something OR they cannot reconcie HIPAA against the other law.

The circumstances are quite suspicious.
 
"Woke up from surgery and I had no arms and no legs. No one told me anything. My arms and legs were just gone."

The article is kind of obtuse. Am I to understand from this quote from the patient that she had no idea going into surgery that losing all her limbs was a possibility? If so, WOW.
 
The article is kind of obtuse. Am I to understand from this quote from the patient that she had no idea going into surgery that losing all her limbs was a possibility? If so, WOW.

I find that hard to believe. Wouldn't she had to have signed a consent for surgery?
 
I find that hard to believe. Wouldn't she had to have signed a consent for surgery?

I agree--someone had to consent...she was transported to another hospital for this. Someone somewhere was notified and consented even if she did not have the ability to speak on her own behalf. (i.e. whoever was watching her baby)
 
So do you think she knows what happened, but just wants the hospital to release the information itself, therefore admitting some culpability, and making it easier to sue or settle?

Denae
 
So do you think she knows what happened, but just wants the hospital to release the information itself, therefore admitting some culpability, and making it easier to sue or settle?

Denae

I think she was after specific information pertaining to her medical records on the events that took place and per Florida law is entitled to something other than an extremely vague answer.

I'm not jumping to whether it makes things easier or not for her regarding a lawsuit.

The law is what it is and she has a right to know. What she does with that information is up to her--but the hospital can't just withhold it for fear of a lawsuit from the patient (if that is what they are doing). They do not legally have that right.
 
Here is the law--not sure if other states have this...but for right now...her motivation is simply the right to know what happened to her while hospitalized.

I am not a legal eagle--my interpretation of the article is that the patient just wishes to exercise her rights per this bill and nothing more at this time.


Florida Patient's Bill of Rights and Responsibilities.

Florida Statutes Chapter 381(026)


Rights Of Patients.

Responsibilities Of Patients


Purpose Of The Florida Patient's Bill Of Rights And Responsibilities

It is the purpose of this section to promote the interests and well-being of the patients of health care providers and health care facilities and to promote better communication between the patient and the health care provider. It is the intent of the Legislature that health care providers understand their responsibility to give their patients a general understanding of the procedures to be performed on them and to provide information pertaining to their health care so that they may make decisions in an informed manner after considering the information relating to their condition, the available treatment alternatives, and substantial risks and hazards inherent in the treatments. It is the intent of the Legislature that patients have a general understanding of their responsibilities toward health care providers and health care facilities. It is the intent of the Legislature that the provision of such information to a patient eliminate potential misunderstandings between patients and health care providers. It is a public policy of the state that the interests of patients be recognized in a patient's bill of rights and responsibilities and that a health care facility or health care provider may not require a patient to waive his or her rights as a condition of treatment. This section shall not be used for any purpose in any civil or administrative action and neither expands nor limits any rights or remedies provided under any other law.

Rights Of Patients.

Each health care facility or provider shall observe the following standards:

Individual dignity

The individual dignity of a patient must be respected at all times and upon all occasions.

Every patient who is provided health care services retains certain rights to privacy, which must be respected without regard to the patient's economic status or source of payment for his or her care. The patient's rights to privacy must be respected to the extent consistent with providing adequate medical care to the patient and with the efficient administration of the health care facility or provider's office. However, this subparagraph does not preclude necessary and discreet discussion of a patient's case or examination by appropriate medical personnel.

A patient has the right to a prompt and reasonable response to a question or request. A health care facility shall respond in a reasonable manner to the request of a patient's health care provider for medical services to the patient. The health care facility shall also respond in a reasonable manner to the patient's request for other services customarily rendered by the health care facility to the extent such services do not require the approval of the patient's health care provider or are not inconsistent with the patient's treatment.

A patient in a health care facility has the right to retain and use personal clothing or possessions as space permits, unless for him or her to do so would infringe upon the right of another patient or is medically or programmatically contraindicated for documented medical, safety, or programmatic reasons.




Information

A patient has the right to know the name, function, and qualifications of each health care provider who is providing medical services to the patient. A patient may request such information from his or her responsible provider or the health care facility in which he or she is receiving medical services.

A patient in a health care facility has the right to know what patient support services are available in the facility.

A patient has the right to be given by his or her health care provider information concerning diagnosis, planned course of treatment, alternatives, risks, and prognosis, unless it is medically inadvisable or impossible to give this information to the patient, in which case the information must be given to the patient's guardian or a person designated as the patient's representative. A patient has the right to refuse this information.

A patient has the right to refuse any treatment based on information required by this paragraph, except as otherwise provided by law. The responsible provider shall document any such refusal.

A patient in a health care facility has the right to know what facility rules and regulations apply to patient conduct.

A patient has the right to express grievances to a health care provider, a health care facility, or the appropriate state licensing agency regarding alleged violations of patients' rights. A patient has the right to know the health care provider's or health care facility's procedures for expressing a grievance.

A patient in a health care facility who does not speak English has the right to be provided an interpreter when receiving medical services if the facility has a person readily available who can interpret on behalf of the patient.


Financial information and disclosure.

A patient has the right to be given, upon request, by the responsible provider, his or her designee, or a representative of the health care facility full information and necessary counseling on the availability of known financial resources for the patient's health care.

A health care provider or a health care facility shall, upon request, disclose to each patient who is eligible for Medicare, in advance of treatment, whether the health care provider or the health care facility in which the patient is receiving medical services accepts assignment under Medicare reimbursement as payment in full for medical services and treatment rendered in the health care provider's office or health care facility.

A health care provider or a health care facility shall, upon request, furnish a patient, prior to provision of medical services, a reasonable estimate of charges for such services. Such reasonable estimate shall not preclude the health care provider or health care facility from exceeding the estimate or making additional charges based on changes in the patient's condition or treatment needs.

A patient has the right to receive a copy of an itemized bill upon request. A patient has a right to be given an explanation of charges upon request.


Access to health care.

A patient has the right to impartial access to medical treatment or accommodations, regardless of race, national origin, religion, handicap, or source of payment.

A patient has the right to treatment for any emergency medical condition that will deteriorate from failure to provide such treatment.

A patient has the right to access any mode of treatment that is, in his or her own judgment and the judgment of his or her health care practitioner, in the best interests of the patient, including complementary or alternative health care treatments, in accordance with the provisions of s. 456.41.

Experimental research

In addition to the provisions of s. 766.103, a patient has the right to know if medical treatment is for purposes of experimental research and to consent prior to participation in such experimental research. For any patient, regardless of ability to pay or source of payment for his or her care, participation must be a voluntary matter; and a patient has the right to refuse to participate. The patient's consent or refusal must be documented in the patient's care record.

Patient's knowledge of rights and responsibilities

In receiving health care, patients have the right to know what their rights and responsibilities are.



Responsibilities Of Patients

Florida law requires that your health care provider or health care facility recognize your rights while you are receiving medical care and that you respect the health care provider's or health care facility's right to expect certain behavior on the part of patients. You may request a copy of the full text of this law from your health care provider or health care facility. A summary of your rights and responsibilities follows:

A patient has the right to be treated with courtesy and respect, with appreciation of his or her individual dignity, and with protection of his or her need for privacy.

A patient has the right to a prompt and reasonable response to questions and requests.

A patient has the right to know who is providing medical services and who is responsible for his or her care.

A patient has the right to know what patient support services are available, including whether an interpreter is available if he or she does not speak English.

A patient has the right to know what rules and regulations apply to his or her conduct.

A patient has the right to be given by the health care provider information concerning diagnosis, planned course of treatment, alternatives, risks, and prognosis.

A patient has the right to refuse any treatment, except as otherwise provided by law.

A patient has the right to be given, upon request, full information and necessary counseling on the availability of known financial resources for his or her care.

A patient who is eligible for Medicare has the right to know, upon request and in advance of treatment, whether the health care provider or health care facility accepts the Medicare assignment rate.

A patient has the right to receive, upon request, prior to treatment, a reasonable estimate of charges for medical care.

A patient has the right to receive a copy of a reasonably clear and understandable, itemized bill and, upon request, to have the charges explained.

A patient has the right to impartial access to medical treatment or accommodations, regardless of race, national origin, religion, handicap, or source of payment.

A patient has the right to treatment for any emergency medical condition that will deteriorate from failure to provide treatment.

A patient has the right to know if medical treatment is for purposes of experimental research and to give his or her consent or refusal to participate in such experimental research.

A patient has the right to express grievances regarding any violation of his or her rights, as stated in Florida law, through the grievance procedure of the health care provider or health care facility which served him or her and to the appropriate state licensing agency.

A patient is responsible for providing to the health care provider, to the best of his or her knowledge, accurate and complete information about present complaints, past illnesses, hospitalizations, medications, and other matters relating to his or her health.

A patient is responsible for reporting unexpected changes in his or her condition to the health care provider.

A patient is responsible for reporting to the health care provider whether he or she comprehends a contemplated course of action and what is expected of him or her.

A patient is responsible for following the treatment plan recommended by the health care provider.

A patient is responsible for keeping appointments and, when he or she is unable to do so for any reason, for notifying the health care provider or health care facility.

A patient is responsible for his or her actions if he or she refuses treatment or does not follow the health care provider's instructions.

A patient is responsible for assuring that the financial obligations of his or her health care are fulfilled as promptly as possible.

A patient is responsible for following health care facility rules and regulations affecting patient care and conduct.
 
I had leg surgery in this hospital 18 years ago, and it was the worst experience ever for me. The surgery was totally botched.The nurses were beyond rude. I left without consent from my doctor, I just had to get out.
That was a long time ago, maybe it has changed, just seeing those initials brings back bad memories.
That being said, I think this lady's situation was very unfortunate, but could have occured anywhere.
 


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