Totally fell down the Rabbit Hole like Alice, I need some advice ASAP - See post 103

oh.....my....god

I am so glad that both of my DDILs like Disney.

egads - she sounds like she's nuts. Why does she care? She's not very mature if she lets this stuff bother her.
 
You should have mentioned that you are also a grown women with a dancing pickle in your signature on a public forum, that would have reallly pushed her over the edge. :rotfl2:
 
Penny, if you are having a mid-life crisis, I must be having one as well. Your DIL should only hope that one day she is as close to her children as you are to yours. You sound like you are a wonderful family and enjoy spending time together. Your relationship with Sarah reminds me so much of my relationship with my daughter. I wouldn't change the time I spend with my daughter for anything or anyone. I imagine you feel the same.

Someday, your DIL will probably look back on that conversation and wonder what she'd been thinking to say such things. In the meantime, just chalk it up to immaturity and let it go.
 
No advice, just :hug:. You sound like the kind of MIL I want to be when I grow up! Lots of people here attend the local games, it's a small community, and it's a lot of fun to support the teams even if you don't have a child currently playing. I've also told my husband I want to have the house to hang out when DD is older, if only to keep an eye out for her and her friends. I also think it's awesome you have such a good relationship with your DD, it definitely sounds like there's some jealousy issues with your DILs. I hope things improve for you, they should definitely abide by the 'if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything rule'!

P.S. My MIL is at Disney right now! :goodvibes
 

If you stayed home on friday nights instead of going to the football games, then you would be home and available to take her children so they could go out. If your busy doing all those fun things, then your not there for them.

I wonder if this states their case....
devotion to daughter is much higher priority than grandchildren....

OP:
You asked for quick advice....
When one responds too quickly out of hurt or anger, it really doesn't have much of a chance to be positive or productive.

It does not sound like you have experienced your DIL's to be demanding selfish be-otches.... and that this is a rude awakening... Well, I know I am not much good until I take the time to mull over a cup of coffee upon awakening....

Maybe your DIL's are becoming demanding and selfish. But, something tells me that there is more to this than is immediately apparent.

If they are simply being selfish and disrespectful, etc... then that is the angle that you need to address. (when and how appropriate) If there are some pent up underlying issues, then patience and listening are probably the best way to uncover these things.

:grouphug:
 
I am sure are, and you have!!!! :grouphug:

However, there seems to be no doubt that there are some underlying issues. And, whether justified or not, the big ugly green monster is probably one of them. (feelings do not have to be rational or justified)

My brain tells me that this is actually originating with your sons.

Unless you were truly SOOOOO close to your DILs that they feel like they are blood family and have the right to make demands and have expectations... This is probably originating with your sons.

I guess anything is possible but I don't think so and this is why.

I called son two (the husband of three hour away DIL) and he was really upset. He says two DILs are talking together and he and DIL were not speaking because of it.

I told him I love him but not to have trouble with his wife over me. I'm a big girl and I'll make it but they have two babies (three and six months) and his family is the most important thing in the world.

As much as I love him I cannot let my feeling cause them problems. Just knowing he doesn't agree helped.

As for son number one, it isn;t his style. If he had a problem with me believe me I would know it.

Penny
 
Seriously, I'm trying to think of a circumstance that would having me calling my MIL with a laundry list of "concerns" engineered to make her feel like crap.

I can't.

I am sorry for the hurt you're feeling.

I so agree with you!

lucyanna, I am so sorry you are going through this.

I thought I had seen it all on the dis but I have to admit that this takes the cake. Live your life and do not ever feel guilty over choosing to live a happy, full and fun one.:thumbsup2
 
I guess anything is possible but I don't think so and this is why.

I called son two (the husband of three hour away DIL) and he was really upset. He says two DILs are talking together and he and DIL were not speaking because of it.

I told him I love him but not to have trouble with his wife over me. I'm a big girl and I'll make it but they have two babies (three and six months) and his family is the most important thing in the world.

As much as I love him I cannot let my feeling cause them problems. Just knowing he doesn't agree helped.

As for son number one, it isn;t his style. If he had a problem with me believe me I would know it.

Penny

WOW... just WOW! :sad2:

I am thoroughly impressed with your response to your son....

:hug:
 
PS: If your two DIL's are truly playing this kind of game.... I would suggest that you do not take personal phone calls from them. Just your sons. (same goes for other things like email.)
 
My brain tells me that this is actually originating with your sons.
(did you go to every one of their and their girlfriends events??? Did you go on nice one-on-one trips (comparable to Disney) with them? )

Unless you were truly SOOOOO close to your DILs that they feel like they are blood family and have the right to make demands and have expectations... This is probably originating with your sons. And, in any event, your son's are the ones that you should address this with if it becomes imperative.
My spidey sense says that you are probably right. The sons are jealous of the OP's relationship with the DD (who is nearly half their age). In addition, you get a telephone-type game where DS#1 calls up DS#2 and DS#2 tells DIL#2 and what the OP does and what DIL#2 hears have been exaggerated.

I don't have any advise, other than I love your dancing banana and I DON'T think you're old ... I'm only 4 years younger than you and I have a DD in 5th grade!
 
Yes!!! Somebody here understands.....

While the sons are 'males of the species' (hahahah!!! a joke, alright), and may not even recognize or be aware of these issues and feelings.... Their wifes could be taking hold of these things, and then all the exaggerations and emotional stuff.... and it all takes off.
 
PS: I too am an 'older' mama, with a son only 11.... and I love the dancing banana, etc.!!!! :banana:
Oops! I meant "pickle" and not banana. The yellow guy is pretty innocuous but blue dancing banana means something else altogether ... something that neither DIL would approve her "elderly" MIL doing :scared1:!
 
My sweet husband says to take a day and stay calm. I asked him if there was any justification to any of this and he says not. Sometimes it is hard to see yourself clearly and I thought maybe I had failed in some way I couldn't see.

He suggested I ask DIL two why she felt the need to discuss us with her friends or family. He says to tell her if anyone has a problem with us going anywhere to ask them why they feel the need to keep up with what we are doing.

He says he loves me just like I am. :lovestruc

As for my daughter, she is wonderful! says she knows herself and doesn't feel the need to go out and party to have fun. It seems both DILs have told her the best part of college is partying and going out.

Please don't get me wrong. I still think these are two good mothers and wives. They are both college educated and responsible. I really don't understand what is going on. It seems maybe I'm just not as available to keep their children as they would like?

Thank you all for taking the time to answer.

Penny
 
DIL number two called me to express "some concerns" she has about me.

What an extremely odd thing to do!?!?!:confused3 Especially since everything you posted about yourself and your family seem perfectly normal. I think I would have "some concerns" about your DIL.:rotfl:

Not to make light of the situation, but if I got a phone call like that, I think the first thing I'd do is laugh. The second thing I'd do is worry about the DIL, especially since, according to what you posted about her, it sounds totally out of character.

My husband and I have been married for 31 years. We have a ten year age span between our oldest (DS29) and youngest (DD19), so we were in our fifties when our youngest graduated from high school a few years ago. Now I'm not exactly sure how someone in their fifties is supposed to act, but we probably aren't doing it right.:lmao:

We became grandparents a year ago when our DD25 and DSIL28 presented us with a precious grandson.:lovestruc I always thought being a grandma would make me feel old, but it's just the opposite.

We have always been a very close-knit family. Because of the age difference between my youngest and her two older siblings, she and I have spent a lot of time together and have taken a lot of special trips (yes, even to Disney:)). The older two were off at college or work and didn't have the same schedule as the youngest. I totally understand the special relationship you have with your daughter, and I don't see it as odd at all.:confused3

I'm in my mid-fifties and I'm a grandmother, but it doesn't keep me from living life to the fullest or from living my life the way I want to live it. Life is too short not to enjoy it! Your DIL would probably have a lot of concerns about me if she ever walked into my house during one of our Beatles Rock Band sessions. She'd find me banging away on the drums while one daughter plays the guitar and the other sings at the microphone.:rotfl: Or if she was walking around the lake last week when DD19 and I took a couple of Razor scooters around the lake.:laughing:

:hug: for you. Even though I say I'd probably laugh (or wonder what was in the brownies she baked and ate before making the call), if I had a DIL (or SIL) that called me up with a list of concerns, I know it would also hurt my feelings.
 
My brain tells me that this is actually originating with your sons.
(did you go to every one of their and their girlfriends events??? Did you go on nice one-on-one trips (comparable to Disney) with them? )

Unless you were truly SOOOOO close to your DILs that they feel like they are blood family and have the right to make demands and have expectations... This is probably originating with your sons. And, in any event, your son's are the ones that you should address this with if it becomes imperative.


I'm not justifying the DIL's because I would NEVER call mine and tell her what I felt were her shortcomings. But this is what I'm thinking. The boys probably see the daughter as "the golden child" who you spend all your time on and feel a little slighted.

I still think the DIL must have been drunk or something because the phone call is crazy!!
 
I haven't read all of the responses... but here is my 2 cents.

Your DILs have been talking to each other and are jealous of all the attention Sarah gets, or all the $ you are spending on her, or both. Either jealous for themselves, or their husbands, or their children. Have they invited you to do something that you couldn't, because of football games etc? They probably wish you were providing free babysitting rather than being involved in Sarah's school.

You are not out of line. It is your life and you can spend it doing whatever you want! It sounds like perhaps they would like it if you spent more time with their little ones. Perhaps you could take the little ones to a game with you? Or even just invite them over to do something at your home, more often than you are doing that now.

My ILs are "go, go, go, go" people and I could care less where they go. I do get irritated occasionally... like the time they went on a 6 day vacation in the middle of my DHs(their son's) 10 day visit to see them. We live overseas and he was in the USA 10 days, and they chose to leave during that time. Perhaps they feel there are times you should be around, that you aren't?

My sister and her DH are in their 50s, their kids are all grown. They still go to cross country meets at the college that their daughter attended. She graduated 2 years ago. They LIKE it. Who cares what they do?? My best friend's dad went to every football game of the High School, even though he never had a kid on the team. He LIKED it!

You can like what you want and spend your time doing what you want to. They are going to be irritated. That's ok. You aren't doing anything wrong. I imagine if you start babysitting more, or spending more money on them, or whatever it is that they are irritated about... there will still be something.

Also.... it is sort of natural for DILs to get irritated with MILs, right? Sure some people say they have great MILs, but the norm is that they irritate. So just keep on living your life and don't worry! Your sons are fine. You are right when you say you don't want to hurt your sons marriage over this. Just let it go. Perhaps DIL feels better now and won't bug you anymore!

Good luck! Hang in there!
Katy
 
It sounds like you are a fabulous Mom, Mother-In-Law, and Grandmother!

You have many roles you are trying to fulfill. IMO Mother is the first, especially to your DD who is still in your home. Then Mom to your kids, then Grandmother to your grandchildren.

I love my MIL, she is the best, but what I want the most from her is for my children to have a grandmother who loves them! And it sounds like you are doing that in spades!

As a DIL, I would say that your last responsibility should be to any DIL!
 
My sweet husband says to take a day and stay calm. I asked him if there was any justification to any of this and he says not. Sometimes it is hard to see yourself clearly and I thought maybe I had failed in some way I couldn't see.

[ . . . ] He says he loves me just like I am. :lovestruc

As for my daughter, she is wonderful! says she knows herself and doesn't feel the need to go out and party to have fun. It seems both DILs have told her the best part of college is partying and going out.

[ . . . ] Thank you all for taking the time to answer.

Penny


Waiting a while before responding sounds very sensible. After all, it took Alice a while to get her bearings after falling down the rabbit hole!

First off, you sound like an absolutely lovely mother, grandmother, wife - and mother-in-law. If there is anything wrong in the picture, it seems to be at the DIL end. You have definitely not failed! :hug:

I'm very sorry that the situation has caused a (I hope, only temporary) rift between one of your sons and his wife. Not good. Son No. 1 and his wife may be having other problems, given that their three-year-old has now been joined by a new baby.

Can I say that there is a bright side that you should bear in mind? Both DILs do seem to care about you enough to tell you their concerns, even if these concerns make DIL no. 1 sound rather self-centered ("why don't you babysit my kids more?") and DIL no. 2 sound like she may have lost whatever sense of proportion she ever had ("why do you like WDW so much?").

I can understand that it is a jaw-dropper of a situation. (Gosh, I'm still trying to recover from the shock of anyone saying that you can like WDW too much!) But please don't let these two calls from your DILs get you down, or even worse, mar your good relationship with your sons, or your relationship with your DILs (and your grandchildren). There may be jealousy involved, there definitely seems to be overanalysis involved.

One strong reason can be that your two DILs are listening very selectively to what your sons tell them about you, your husband and Sarah, and are then getting on the telephone to one another wondering what is the matter with you, and getting reinforcement from one another. This may be a recent development, as suggested by the fact that you got a one-two punch from your two DILs at about the same time.

You've gotten a lot of good advice from other posters, and will undoubtedly weigh it all when considering how to respond.

With DIL No. 1, perhaps no response is necessary; you sound like you are happy to babysit, and there really is no reason for you to volunteer any more than you already do.

With DIL No. 2, the comment about liking WDW is so beyond the pale that you can ignore it completely. (You probably already have a long-term plan to sneakily subvert your grandchildren, indoctrinating them into the wonders of Disney ...). By all means, continue to tailgate and enjoy high school football; getting out and enjoying the game is reason enough, knowing people on the team (even if on the bench) is an added plus. And congratulate yourself for having such a wonderful home that your daughter and her boyfriend like spending time there! The pseudo psycho-babble regarding the relationship between you and your mother, and you having a second childhood, sounds rather hurtful, but as such I would just ignore it as babble.

You've got a wonderful husband, daughter, sons and grandchildren. We should all be as lucky as you. In time, your DILs will appreciate this!
 
There's a whole lot of difference between immature and young at heart. I sure plan to stay young at heart as long as I can, and if that means embarrassing any in-laws I may acquire along the way, then that's their problem.

You sound like you have a great balance between family commitments and just doing stuff you love doing - so I'd try to ignore whatever jealous nonsense is happening elsewhere.
 



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