Toddler dies after being left in hot car .....HORRIBLE!!!!

[Planogirl]

OK, assuming that the lady had no where to leave the child, couldn't she have called in sick? I would personally love to know the name of a business who would fire someone because they stayed home with a sick child.

There just had to be a better way than this!

 

[tedsmom]

So EROS, with all your moral outrage over the other folks' opinions about this mother, am I safe to assume that you are going to head up her defense fund and also the fund that will allow her to be able to provide daycare for any other children she may have? Or does your moral outrage stop at WRITING THINGS IN BIG LETTERS ON THE DIS and LABELLING PEOPLE WHOSE OPINIONS DON'T AGREE WITH YOURS AS MEMBERS OF VARIOUS CLUBS?

Not expecting a response, because you usually don't respond to the questions addressed to you.

Haven't been here long, but you're fairly easy to figure out.

With regard to the mom and baby, sad story all around.

 

[Bunchkin]

It is a sad story. But still, what was she thinking (or not thinking as the case seems).
This story hits close to home for me, my mom left my DD (3yrs old at the time) in her vehicle while she went into a store to shop. My mom was watching my DD while I worked a Christmas part-time job. My DD was scared, terrified and felt deserted to say the least. Needless to say I haven't spoken to my mother for almost two years now. And neither has my DD. She's lucky we didn't press charges against her.

I feel nothing for the mother who did that to her daughter. Regardless of her reasons. Your child is more important and should be valued more than any thing ( or job) in the world.

 

[browneyes]

Aten said her client will plead not guilty.

Not guilty? Who is she blaming-Peter Cottontail?

EROS, the only torture I would suggest if I had a hand in sentencing her is to put her through the same thing her dd went through. Let her strap herself into something she can't get herself out of, shut herself up in a hot car with the windows up for several hours, and let her tombstone read "not guilty".

I hear of this happening too often for the public to be so stupid to not think they're are killing these kids. I remember a case about 35 miles from here of a woman that locked her 2 ds's in the car while she "entertained" 3 men in a hotel room over night and into the next day. This was in July (I think about 11-12 years ago). The temps got into the 100's. She pleaded not guilty too. Last I heard she's still in prison (and still doesn't believe she's to blame for her ds's deaths ).

 

[Nancy]

I don't know about all of you, but I value my daughter's life more than my own. I gave birth to them. I went through a lot just to be able to have the priviledge of having children. I would put my life on the line to save my daughter's anyday, anytime. How a mother can be so careless with something so precious is just beyond my comprehension.

 

[EROS]

TEDSMOM, I don't recall saying that you're the member of ANY club. Please call 'em as you see 'em . I'm equally entitled to my own opinion as well .

Should this mother be charged??? Definitely. I'm just always taken aback by the righteousness around here. OK, so there aren't many DISers who have ever left their children in a car. I'm sure that there are some around here who have NOT been safety conscious at times but have been lucky. If you're driving a car with your child and have an error in judgment that causes his/her death, should you be hung from the rafters????? Subjected to Chinese Water Torture??? I don't think so. People MAKE mistakes..........sometimes FATAL mistakes. I've seen it happen in the operating room as well .

We certainly have a host of people around here who like to "cast the first stone" ........

 

[minniepumpernickel]

Originally posted by tedsmom
So EROS, with all your moral outrage over the other folks' opinions about this mother, am I safe to assume that you are going to head up her defense fund and also the fund that will allow her to be able to provide daycare for any other children she may have? Or does your moral outrage stop at WRITING THINGS IN BIG LETTERS ON THE DIS and LABELLING PEOPLE WHOSE OPINIONS DON'T AGREE WITH YOURS AS MEMBERS OF VARIOUS CLUBS?

Not expecting a response, because you usually don't respond to the questions addressed to you.

Haven't been here long, but you're fairly easy to figure out.

With regard to the mom and baby, sad story all around.

Excellent post! Perhaps Eros has missed his calling? He seems to have the right stuff to be a defense attorney for all of the dregs of society. Who else on the planet has so much boundless empathy and compassion, particularly for the element that comes from the wrong side of the tracks? Doesn't it make us all want to swoon? Okay no more rants from me.

So very sorry for this young child!

 

[browneyes]

Originally posted by EROS
If you're driving a car with your child and have an error in judgment that causes his/her death, should you be hung from the rafters????? Subjected to Chinese Water Torture???

If either of my children died because of an error in judgment on my part in a car or not, no court could impose a bad enough penalty on me. I would deserve any and everything they did to me.

 

[tedsmom]

EROS, if you would reread my post carefully, you will see that I did not state that you called me a member of the "HEH Club".

I am always amazed at self-righteousness too, particularly yours. Most of the rest of the DISers appear to have fairly normal reactions to the horrific current events that are posted here, and most seem to attempt to post whatever opinions that they feel they are "entitled" to in a respectful manner, without all the melodramatics of BIG LETTERS and bold fonts.

PS-You will never have to worry about me "calling them as I see them". I always do .

 

[EROS]

Here's the face of the hardened killer........

Nakia Burgess (left) appears in court Thursday with attorney Phinia Y. Aten.


addendum to the story.......

Aten said Burgess came to Atlanta "to make a better life for herself, but kept running into a constant roadblock in trying to find child care."

Burgess had lost two previous temporary jobs because she had to take time out to care for Ashante, the attorney added, and she had been ordered to be at work Wednesday or she would be fired.

She had "come in briefly on Monday," the first day of her latest job.

"She got an ultimatum to be there at 10:30 a.m. or her job would be lost," Aten said.

The baby's father has been in a New Jersey prison for the past year and a half, the attorney said. She did not know what offense the father was serving time for.

 

[Robinrs]

Originally posted by EROS
This woman is NOT Public Enemy #1; she's NOT on the FBI Ten Most Wanted list. She made a horrific and tragic mistake and will have to live with her loss for the rest of her life. I feel compassion for her, not rage............... If some of you want to beat up upon her and say that even a worm has more maternal judgment, then knock yourself out...

Here I am knocking myself out!!

We are not talking about something we know nothing about. Most of us ARE mothers and we have been in these situations. The difference is we had to make CHOICES, choices that affect other LIVES. This is the job of a mother. This was NOT a mistake. This was a disgusting, unneccessary BAD choice.

No job, no one, not a situation or a human being could've made me do that to MY child.

And on this earth we have free will to make choices and my choice is to beat up on a fool who led a poor defenseless child die! I do not have any compassion for that act, though I do have compassion for what she will go through. I know what it's like to lose a child, but to do something so stupid to make that child pay the ultimate price.. there is no excuse, no defense, for it.

 

[EROS]

There may be ex gang-bangers on the DIS who might have made decisions or judgments in the past which jeopardized others. Was that OK because they didn't harm any young children????

I yell at our neighbors when they let their kids use bikes or scooters WITHOUT helmets . Are these parents the "scum of the earth"????? NOT............

If you're human, you MAKE MISTAKES. Hopefully,they don't cause the deaths of friends/loved ones, but sometimes THEY DO.

But of course, the "perfect" DISers should "cast the first stone" ........

 

[captin fink]

EROS, I agree you have the right to express your opinion. But when someone else has an opinion that is not the same as yours, You resort to sarcastic replies.

I Love the smell of the DIS in the morning.............it reminds me of.............NAPALM

Then on queue, you will label the people that disagree with you with some type of label.

I'm sure that members of the HEH club could come up with some sadistic tortures for this woman

(We have also been referred to as the righteous crowd as well.)

Well I believe there is a new club out there that is looking for a leader and thought that you would be interested.

Jaded Epigrammatic Rabble-rousing Know-it-alls

 

[Saffron]

We all have choices to face and make, each and every day. If I were faced with the choice of being fired from a job and face all of the consequences that could go along with that choice, or knowingly place my child's precious life in jeopardy and face all of the consequences that could go along with that choice, I'd be fired. I'm speaking for myself. That would be my choice.

Making a fatal error in judgement while driving a car is a lot different than knowingly putting your child's life at risk and hoping for the best.

I agree with you on most issues EROS. I even have compassion for this woman. I can't imagine what it would be like to have my child die under any circumstance. That being said, just as you get taken aback by all of the "righteousness" you see on a thread, I get taken aback by all the self-righteousness, labeling and name calling that I see.

ROTFLOL! Captain Fink!

Edited for spelling

 

[janette]

If you're human, you MAKE MISTAKES. Hopefully,they don't cause the deaths of friends/loved ones, but sometimes THEY DO.
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This was an intentional act and should be charged accordingly. I also think there should be more people charged in cases where children are harmed by not wearing seat belts or using helmets. Just because they aren't usually charged doesn't make this person less negligent.

It is sad that any parent would feel so pressured that they would make a decision like this but they have to live with that decision. We won't be on her jury and I'm sure the people who are will have an opportunity to weigh all the evidence. If there are circumstance they think make her less negligent fine. I certainly don't have to feel compassion for her.

 

[EROS]

Originally posted by captin fink


Well I believe there is a new club out there that is looking for a leader and thought that you would be interested.

Jaded Epigrammatic Rabble-rousing Know-it-alls

If nominated, I will be honored to run .

If elected, I will be honored to serve

 

[captin fink]

If nominated, I will be honored to run

I being of sound mind nominate EROS as the leader of the

"Jaded Epigrammatic Rabble-rousing Know-it-alls "

Will anyone second me?

 

[janette]

I'm not sure Epigrammatic is the right word. Maybe egocentric?

 

[RitaZ.]

Eros, none of your replies in this thread mentions anything about the little girl that died. You keep referring to the mom as "having made a tragic and horrific mistake". This woman is obviously distraught, but her little girl did die as a result of a choice/decision that she made. Have you no empathy for that poor child and how she died?

It's true that the mother will have to live with this for the rest of her life, that's quite a burden to bear. It's not for me to judge and decide this woman's fate. Like it or not, we do have the right to express our thoughts and opinions on the matter.

I have agreed with you on certain subjects. However, I think that you tend to lose credibility when you respond with condescending labels/words. You may want to try a different approach.

 

[captin fink]

janette

Ithaught this might help

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Date: 15th century
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