Today Show interview with Octuplet Mom...

[SharkyGoddess]

Wow...good eye. How much do those run? I've never had one. How long do they take?

$45 every two weeks and mine (and my daughter's) take about an hour.

 

[Cee]

 

[Connieh]

Who payed for the plastic surgery on the face, seems the nose and lips have been done.

How could she be on disability for back pain and depression and yet carry all these babies without causing further damage.

Odd story indeed

 

[browneyes106]

I just watched the interview. I think she had collagen injections on her lips.

 

[agnes!]

I just watched the interview. I think she had collagen injections on her lips.

When did she have tim to have that done (or any of the other procedures that seem evident in her face)? I would think taking care of *six* children would keep her so occupied she wouldn't have time for cosmetic procedures. Yeah, I'm being snarky. I don't care.

And why does Grandpa have to go back to his home country to make a living? He'll be able to make better money there than in the US?

I'm waiting for former co-workers from the Hospital and people who knew her in high school (she was a cheerleader, right?) to come out of the woodwork. She has a Master's and is supposedly going for a PhD?!? You have *got* to be kidding.

agnes!

 

[themarquis]

freaky mouth!!!!!

I was trying to listen to what she was saying, but all I could do was stare at those bloated lips flopping around!

 

[SueM in MN]

I also saw the Angelina Jolie resemblance and I even wondered if she had dabbled in some plastic surgery along the way ...

If she was married for so long a time WHY did she have someone other than her husband as the sperm donor.

Once you are on disability, don't they ever come back and check to see if you are STILL disabled. This woman carried and cared for 6 children (before the latest pregnancy), that's a pretty strong back.

I agree that she may be one of those people who loves babies, the dependency and helplessness but then WHY all eight at once ....

The doctor involved in this case should lose his license.

It sounded like she was married, but was separated for a long time.
I wonder what she told the sperm donor since he was her friend. When Ann Curry asked how he felt about it, she said he was a bit overwhelmed and she hoped he would be involved in the kid's lives.
My question is whether he had any say in the number of kids she planned on having and whether he agreed ahead of time that he would be involved, or just thought he would be a donor without the kid(s) knowing who he was.

I also understood that she was on disability and was in a lot of pain during her first pregnancy from her back and was on bedrest because of that. Knowing that, you would think that any doctor would consider her a high risk pregnancy for even one child.

I thought she said, " I had all 8 eggs implanted" because they are all my children.

Lets face it, she is mentally disturbed and needs counseling big time. I just hope her children don't suffer because of her poor choices, but how can they not?

I also thought that was what she said too.

The thing that disturbs me is that all the things she said, she doesn't 'get' it. She said she thinks the only reason people are upset is that she is unmarried.
I would be thinking the same things even if she was a married woman with 3 million dollars. Eight babies is too many for anyone.
But, she's totally unrealistic about how she's going to care for her kids. She said she was hoping that her family and her church would 'step up' and help her. She also has plans to return to school in the fall and is planning on putting her children in the University day care. She thought between student loans, grants and other help, she would do fine.

I really would like for this to turn out for the best with everyone concerned, especially the babies and her other children, but I just can't see how it would be possible for everything to turn out ok. I hope CPS will be keeping her under observation, at the very least to head off any problems and to take more serious action if warranted.

And *please* someone tell me that SHE WON'T BE HAVING ANY MORE KIDS .

Btw, has it come out how she paid for all these 'treatments'? They sure aren't cheap...

agnes!

I understood that she used some of the settlement money that she got from the accident......
but, who really knows.

 

[golfgal]

There is no "settlement" money. She was collecting disability insurance payments that added up over time to that amount. It was probably 60% of her income so over the 8 years or whatever it added up to the $165K. It is the same as anyone with disability insurance would get. Since she was living at mom and dad's my guess is that she had a lot of extra money to spend since she didn't have to pay things like RENT.

 

[Val]

If she thinks she is going to afford the 14 babies on a masters in counseling salary- I hope she marries rich! Beginning masters level counselors make in the $35K range- wonder how far below poverty THAT would leave her with 14 kids. If she thinks she can finish a masters program while mothering 14 kids under the age of 7- she is nuts. Doesn't one of the older kids have autism? Ask any parent of a child with autism if parenting is easy.....oh my. And I highly doubt any reputable doctoral clinical psych program would accept her....I doubt she will ever hold a counseling psych job.....this does not bode well.

....what a tragedy for those kids. I can shake my head at this woman all I want, but what about those 14 children. Each deserves a fair shake at life. Makes me so very sad.

 

[SueM in MN]

There is no "settlement" money. She was collecting disability insurance payments that added up over time to that amount. It was probably 60% of her income so over the 8 years or whatever it added up to the $165K. It is the same as anyone with disability insurance would get. Since she was living at mom and dad's my guess is that she had a lot of extra money to spend since she didn't have to pay things like RENT.

there have been so many different stories.
One of them included a settlement besides the disability money.
And, she is going to have some 'splaining' to do. If she was too disabled to work, how was she able to handle all those pregnancies and all those kids. AND go to school - wouldn't someone who was able to do all that be able to work.
I sense an investigation and some money possibly needing to be paid back for taking disability benefits when she was not fully disabled.

 

[Stacerita]

there have been so many different stories.
One of them included a settlement besides the disability money.
And, she is going to have some 'splaining' to do. If she was too disabled to work, how was she able to handle all those pregnancies and all those kids. AND go to school - wouldn't someone who was able to do all that be able to work.
I sense an investigation and some money possibly needing to be paid back for taking disability benefits when she was not fully disabled.

There better be an investigation.

 

[SharkyGoddess]

there have been so many different stories.
One of them included a settlement besides the disability money.
And, she is going to have some 'splaining' to do. If she was too disabled to work, how was she able to handle all those pregnancies and all those kids. AND go to school - wouldn't someone who was able to do all that be able to work.
I sense an investigation and some money possibly needing to be paid back for taking disability benefits when she was not fully disabled.

Well... there are all those "hidden" disabilities. My Aunt had MS (only "visible" towards her last days) and could not work, but gave birth to and raised 4 children and I have a sister with Fibromyalgia who is unable to work who has two children. Are disabled people not allowed to have children?

 

[golfgal]

Well... there are all those "hidden" disabilities. My Aunt had MS (only "visible" towards her last days) and could not work, but gave birth to and raised 4 children and I have a sister with Fibromyalgia who is unable to work who has two children. Are disabled people not allowed to have children?

No one said that but her disability was due to a back injury-which could EASILY be aggravated by giving birth to a litter. Having a chronic illness is much different-and did your aunt and sister sponge off your parents to support them?

 

[Stacerita]

Well... there are all those "hidden" disabilities. My Aunt had MS (only "visible" towards her last days) and could not work, but gave birth to and raised 4 children and I have a sister with Fibromyalgia who is unable to work who has two children. Are disabled people not allowed to have children?

Apples to oranges.

 

[Fantasmic303]

http://news.aol.com/article/octuplets-mom-speaks/331827

This isn't the original article I read about them implanting six with two splitting, but it does report that - this article is about investigation of the doctor.

 

[agnes!]

And her story about *only* getting six implanted... The odds are really against TWO embryos splitting. Is she really saying that she had two sets of identical twins among her litter of eight?

And who is paying for these kids' medical bills? It must be up at least in the upper $100,000 - if not MILLIONS - by now.

And just HOW did she pay for all the artificial inseminations, etc.? Those aren't cheap either. Self-deluded, thy name is Naomi Suleman.

agnes!

 

[eliza61]

Ditto. It amazes me that an MD would do this procedure on this woman to begin with, first of all for health reasons but secondly, shouldn't there be some kind of discussion about how these children will be supported? If she was already not working and on public assistance due to "disability", why in the name of God would a responsible MD do this? He would had to have known that all the costs were going to be paid by someone else!

I'm sorry, but the majority in this country screams and yells about "choice" when it comes to children-but with "choice" comes responsibility. If you choose to have a child or 8 children, you choose the responsibility to support them. I'm fairly sure that the taxpayers of California would have chosen not to support her army of children if they'd been allowed that opportunity. Most of them are probably having enough trouble supporting the children they chose to have.

No Are you kidding me? Doctors do not have the right to decide who can bear children and who cannot. It's not the doctors job to say "hey you're too poor to have more children". A responsible Md. looks after the health welfare of his patient. period. If he thinks there is abuse he calls SOCIAL SERVICES.

And unfortunately in this country you do have the choice to make stupid decision. If we are going to have reproduction freedom then yes that means idiots get to reproduce also.

 

[dare2dream]

Will Dr Phil be able to get to the bottom of it all?

Thursday's show February 12

Octuplet Debate

For most single mothers, one child is enough of a handful, but when a 33-year-old woman in Southern California gave birth to eight premature babies -- in addition to the six children under the age of 8 she already has -- the country started talking! The mother of 14, Nadya, is keeping a low profile, but it is reported that all her children were created through in-vitro fertilization, an expensive and purposeful process. Questions are cropping up: How did she end up with eight embryos? How will she care for all of them? Who will pay these children's expenses over the years? How do we take the children's well-being into account in reproductive medicine? Dr. Phil and his panel of esteemed guests, including pediatrician Dr. Jim Sears co-host of The Doctors, debate the ethical and practical questions that have been raised. Dr. Phil will also speak with Kate Gosselin, mother of eight and star of TLC's Jon and Kate Plus 8, about the challenges of raising eight children.

 

[horseshowmom]

....what a tragedy for those kids. I can shake my head at this woman all I want, but what about those 14 children. Each deserves a fair shake at life. Makes me so very sad.

I keep thinking about what she said about not wanting her husband to have to deal with her depression and wanting him to have the chance to move on. What about her children? Now that she's gone to extremes to bring 14 of them into the world, how are they going to do having to deal with her issues? If it was a burden for a husband, it will be even more so for children - particularly with a mother who can't seem to make up her mind whether she had a great childhood or a dysfunctional one, so what's she going to for their childhoods?

 

[TeacupDemon]

I have been trying to ignore this person, because I knew I would have nothing nice to say. Unfortunately, I saw clips of the interview on Anderson Cooper last night, and the floodgates of anger unleashed. I typed it all up in my blog this morning, because it was eating me up, but in a nutshell I think she is:

1. Mentally Ill
2. Banking on lucrative deals
3. Incredibly negligent for endangering her children in that kind of high risk pregnancy.
4. Totally narcissistic and oblivious to all the challenges she is giving these poor children, between physical and mental issues.

I can't even think about her anymore this morning, because she will make my head explode!