To the parents of teens...I am fed up with you!!

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Mermaid02 said:
OP- What would you do if your son saved his money and bought himself a laptop computer?

I think you are setting yourself up for some big time rebellion later.

Raise your hand if you concur. :wave:


I disagree, I mean with no tv or computer in his room he does not have access to anything that would show him why or how to rebel right?

I am still kicking myself for ever raising my son the way that I have. I can't wait to see the look on his face when I tell him no more stuff in your room.

So OP.....Will your son get a drivers license and car since you know not only all the kids have that but most ADULTS TOO. Man that will be a firey subject

not too mention driving is being so lazy..walk or ride a bike to get there.
 
interesting piece from USA Today...

Three studies suggest TV hampers kids' academic skills

By Greg Toppo, USA TODAY

You've just purchased that gleaming huge-screen TV at a Fourth of July sale. And now the kids are begging you to haul the old set into their room. Just say no, three new studies suggest.

Researchers say too much TV viewing in childhood has long-term effects on learning. In one study, they found that simply having a TV set in a kid's bedroom can be linked to lower academic skills.

In another, researchers in New Zealand tracked 1,037 children for nearly 30 years in the first long-term follow-up measuring childhood viewing and educational achievement.

They say those who watched the most TV from ages 5 to 15 were least likely to graduate from high school or college by age 26.

A third study, from University of Washington researchers, finds that very young children who watch a lot of TV have diminished reading comprehension and other academic problems when they're 6 and 7.

None of the studies, in the July issue of Archives of Pediatric & Adolescent Medicine, out Monday, looks at content. The journal notes in an editorial that the authors largely ignored the work of others "who have found positive associations" between children's educational TV viewing and academic skills.

In the New Zealand study, researchers found that, whether bright or not-so-bright, rich or not-so-rich, children who watched more TV were less likely to end up later with an academic degree. And watching more TV as a very young child, they say, had a closer correlation than teen viewing habits.

"This suggests that excessive television in younger children has a long-lasting adverse effect on educational performance," says Bob Hancox of New Zealand's University of Otago.

In the bedroom study, Dina Borzekowski, an assistant professor at Johns Hopkins' Bloomberg School of Public Health, and Thomas Robinson, a Stanford University professor and pediatrician, surveyed 386 third-graders in the San Francisco Bay area in 2000.

They found that those with TVs in their rooms had much lower reading, math and writing scores on standardized tests.

They factored out parents' education levels, which generally serve as a proxy for family income.

Borzekowski is careful not to draw conclusions about the findings; she says it's possible that kids who do better in school simply aren't as interested in TV.

Sam Goldstein, a University of Utah neuropsychologist who studies media and kids' brains, says the findings aren't surprising.

But he cautions that other variables come into play, such as parents' attitudes about school and self-discipline. He notes that his children had TVs in their rooms and both became National Merit scholars who attend good colleges.

"We placed a lot of emphasis on education by exposing them to a lot of intellectually stimulating activities," Goldstein says.

Responds Hopkins' Borzekowski: "I'm not saying get rid of television. I'm not saying never watch. I'm just saying keep it in the living room so parents can have a little more control over it."



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To the OP, if he/she ever comes back, I am curious. Kids do not need board games, so why do you allow yours to have them?
 
Miller1412 said:
But if there's no tv, computer or cell phone in my kid's room to keep them busy, when will I DIS??

If they want to talk to me, they can post on the Disboards from their rooms.

No no no, that's what IM-ing is for. So you don't have to actually 'talk' to them, just IM them instead. Win win for everyone. :rotfl:
 

charlie said:
interesting piece from USA Today...

Three studies suggest TV hampers kids' academic skills

By Greg Toppo, USA TODAY

You've just purchased that gleaming huge-screen TV at a Fourth of July sale. And now the kids are begging you to haul the old set into their room. Just say no, three new studies suggest.

Researchers say too much TV viewing in childhood has long-term effects on learning. In one study, they found that simply having a TV set in a kid's bedroom can be linked to lower academic skills.

In another, researchers in New Zealand tracked 1,037 children for nearly 30 years in the first long-term follow-up measuring childhood viewing and educational achievement.

They say those who watched the most TV from ages 5 to 15 were least likely to graduate from high school or college by age 26.

A third study, from University of Washington researchers, finds that very young children who watch a lot of TV have diminished reading comprehension and other academic problems when they're 6 and 7.

None of the studies, in the July issue of Archives of Pediatric & Adolescent Medicine, out Monday, looks at content. The journal notes in an editorial that the authors largely ignored the work of others "who have found positive associations" between children's educational TV viewing and academic skills.

In the New Zealand study, researchers found that, whether bright or not-so-bright, rich or not-so-rich, children who watched more TV were less likely to end up later with an academic degree. And watching more TV as a very young child, they say, had a closer correlation than teen viewing habits.

"This suggests that excessive television in younger children has a long-lasting adverse effect on educational performance," says Bob Hancox of New Zealand's University of Otago.

In the bedroom study, Dina Borzekowski, an assistant professor at Johns Hopkins' Bloomberg School of Public Health, and Thomas Robinson, a Stanford University professor and pediatrician, surveyed 386 third-graders in the San Francisco Bay area in 2000.

They found that those with TVs in their rooms had much lower reading, math and writing scores on standardized tests.

They factored out parents' education levels, which generally serve as a proxy for family income.

Borzekowski is careful not to draw conclusions about the findings; she says it's possible that kids who do better in school simply aren't as interested in TV.

Sam Goldstein, a University of Utah neuropsychologist who studies media and kids' brains, says the findings aren't surprising.

But he cautions that other variables come into play, such as parents' attitudes about school and self-discipline. He notes that his children had TVs in their rooms and both became National Merit scholars who attend good colleges.

"We placed a lot of emphasis on education by exposing them to a lot of intellectually stimulating activities," Goldstein says.

Responds Hopkins' Borzekowski: "I'm not saying get rid of television. I'm not saying never watch. I'm just saying keep it in the living room so parents can have a little more control over it."



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Interesting.....not a problem here though. I don't put much faith in those kinds of studies anyway. The results change from one to the next.
 
debster812 said:
No no no, that's what IM-ing is for. So you don't have to actually 'talk' to them, just IM them instead. Win win for everyone. :rotfl:

Now, If I can just get them to use the internet to get meals and care, I will be all set!!
 
To the OP - way too much too read here, but in response to your original question...

My DD14 and DD11 do not have any of the three items you mentioned, nor do they particularly want them. Well, DD11 wants a laptop, but she knows that won't happen.

We will probably get a family laptop soon, because all 4 of need the computer at one time or another and with the homework these days, the kids need it more and more. So a wireless connection to a laptop will allow us to have a backup.
 
mickeyboat said:
I don't enjoy them much, either. That is what Papa is for! An added bonus, while he is playing board games with the kids, I can sit in the kitchen and drink!

Denae
You owe me a monitor! :lmao: :lmao:
 
Candyland?!!

Chutes & Ladders????!!!

You people are exposing your children to the evil lure of sugar and the incredible risk of heights and thrill seeking!

We're hopeless - the state will be coming to take all of our children away any minute!
 
Miss Jasmine said:
How utterly shocking. I don't think I can post with you anymore. :sad2:

Well then you'll probably be utterly shocked to find out that the Computer, along with a TV, Playstation 2, Game Cube and Game Boy are in my 9 year old son's room. GASP! He is in third grade, but reads at an 8 or 9th grade level, and is very advanced in math and science as well. Shocking how that works. ;) :) :lmao:
 
Miller1412 said:
But if there's no tv, computer or cell phone in my kid's room to keep them busy, when will I DIS??

If they want to talk to me, they can post on the Disboards from their rooms.
Depending on how old your kids are, you can do what I do. I send my dd14 over to her boyfriends house! :thumbsup2
 
charlie said:
None of the studies, in the July issue of Archives of Pediatric & Adolescent Medicine, out Monday, looks at content. The journal notes in an editorial that the authors largely ignored the work of others "who have found positive associations" between children's educational TV viewing and academic skills.


Borzekowski is careful not to draw conclusions about the findings;

He notes that his children had TVs in their rooms and both became National Merit scholars who attend good colleges.

:rolleyes:

Hhhhhhmmmmm
 
Wow! This sure has taken off. I read through 3 pages and then skipped to page 10. By the time I finish typing, I might be on page 30.

Here's a novel idea...and one that might work for both the OP and some of the other posters. How about teaching your kids to work for the things that they want in life instead of just begging/expecting Mom & Dad to provide them?

When I was a kid (many, many moons ago), Nike sneakers were all the rage and "everyone" had them. Well my parents couldn't afford them. So they made a deal with us. They would give us the money that they would normally spend on our sneakers and we got to earn the rest. They did this with my older sister and I both. Since we got paid to do our chores and were of babysitting age, we were earning money and learning to save. It was a great lesson...one that lasts a lifetime.

Unfortunately, my younger sister didn't get the same lesson. With a bigger age gap between her and us, my parents got a bit lazy (my mother will admit it - my father admits nothing) and pretty much gave in to most of my younger sisters requests. She's now 30 years old and still expects the rest of us to take care of her.

I'm not saying that all parents are perfect. Far from it. And there are even quite a few who could probably use a smack upside the head, but unfortunately, we can't do anything about them. Obviously your way of addressing things isn't going to change anything. The only thing you can control is how you raise your own kids, so why not teach them how to work for the things they really want instead of just telling him no and blaming everyone else? You might just surprise yourself and your son. And in 20 years, he might just thank you for teaching him a few good lessons about money and saving.
 
great now my kid is going to want a board game because you have one! thanks!
:rotfl: Had to stop in and snork at Tara!! :rotfl:


This thread is hilarious!! Couldn't believe the OP was for real, buuut... oookay fine. :rolleyes:
 
SillyMe said:
Depending on how old your kids are, you can do what I do. I send my dd14 over to her boyfriends house! :thumbsup2

Well...she's 5 but, what the heck!!

Start 'em young I always say!!
 
poohandwendy said:
LOL, yeah...my kids require a high speed connection. My 12 yo simply cannot offer web cam service on her porn site without it. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Well come on now, you wouldn't want her business to suffer. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

So I guess my parents were horribly lazy when they allowed me and my brother to have tv's in our rooms when we were young. My parents put a really old 13" tv in my room when I was young because my mom couldn't stand listening to me watch Jem while signing at the top of my lungs. :blush:
At 10 yrs old I also had a computer in my room. Well, it was a Commadore 64 but what does that matter. And that fact that I didn't use it for games but I used it to learn to program? Nope, that wasn't educational. Oh, and the fact that I got my degree in Computer Science and I now have an excellent career...those all go back to my parents being lazy. Thanx mom and dad for ruining my life. :rolleyes:

Yes, my black belt in tae kwon do mother must be lazy. That must also mean that my dad is lazy for teaching me to use a computer, ride a bike, go camping, put things together like our pool, or go orienteering. I didn't have a cell phone when I was young because they weren't around then. I got one when I went to college. But I'm pretty sure with my crazy self as a teen I would have had one.

Why yes, I do know what a boardgame is, thank you for asking. My family used to play Monopoly and Life a lot when we didn't have conflicting schedules. Heck, now they are going to be complaining to YOU because I might try to get them to play tonight! :stir:
 
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