To hold or not to hold the gate...

[simplymama]

Why wouldn't you hold the gate? That's like standing by the club level elevator and not allowing anybody on after you swiped your band for the club level floor. It's not the guest's job to police who belongs where. If you have manners, you hold the gate assuming the best of the people who have asked, if you don't you let the gate slam shut behind you. We actually have a keyed gate at our community beach access where I live but I'm not about to slam the gate on somebody coming up behind me because I don't know if they live in our neighborhood.

 

[Mainsail Minnie]

No, I would ignore them and close the gate. The overcrowdedness of the resort pools (except SAB, which has monitored access) is annoying to us, so I'm not going to help any crashers along. Anyone who paid to be there has gate access themselves & doesn't need me to hold the gate. Only exception would be someone with an obvious physical disability.

 

[kylenne]

I’m the one telling annoying people to put their phones/iPads/cafeteria trays down during shows so they quit disturbing the view of everyone behind them, I have no problem playing “pool bouncer” at Deluxe resorts. You wanna swim there, cool! Then pay Deluxe prices, otherwise you’re free to enjoy the many fine pools at All Star Pop or wherever. Maybe my views are colored by staying at the Poly and watching it run rampant.

But I’m also from Brooklyn. We’re, uh. Assertive lol

 

[Searc]

If they aren't staying there, they aren't playing nice in the sandbox.

It isn't my job to be the pool police.

 

[Searc]

I’m the one telling annoying people to put their phones/iPads/cafeteria trays down during shows so they quit disturbing the view of everyone behind them, I have no problem playing “pool bouncer” at Deluxe resorts. You wanna swim there, cool! Then pay Deluxe prices, otherwise you’re free to enjoy the many fine pools at All Star Pop or wherever. Maybe my views are colored by staying at the Poly and watching it run rampant.

But I’m also from Brooklyn. We’re, uh. Assertive lol

Where I come from, we call it something else.

 

[ksdave]

Due to our security rules, I could be fired at my job for "holding the door" for someone that does not scan. So, most likely, I would not hold it for them at the pool either. Just a habit now.

 

[MomOTwins]

Funny how divisive this is. I am thinking people who are shocked that others won’t hold the gate are (1) not frequent deluxe guests who have experienced the out of control pool crashing; and (2) not from a city that has had to implement a lot of security protocols around door holding (if someone tried to hold our door at our jewish preschool that had over a dozen bomb and active shooter threats since we enrolled our kids, they’d be tackled to the floor).

 

[Kestryl]

Due to our security rules, I could be fired at my job for "holding the door" for someone that does not scan. So, most likely, I would not hold it for them at the pool either. Just a habit now.

This! We’re allowed to hold the door (in most places) for people we know, but otherwise we’re told to shut the door. It’s happened to me on both sides (closing the door on someone and having the door closed on me), but no one gets mad because it’s security.

 

[seashoreCM]

Would this work?

Close the gate but wait there for them. Tell them to scan/tap a Magic band and when the gate unlatches you pull it open for them.

For those eavesdropping and who live in an apartment complex with common entrances or main front doors that are normally locked--- would you or do you hold the door open for others behind you to enter the building? Or when you have buzzed yourself into an otherwise closed bank lobby to use an ATM inside and someone is behind you ... (you finish the story).

 

[tguz]

I'd hold the gate thinking that if they aren't guests, they will probably try something later and get busted. This Summer at Kali River Rapids, we had fastpasses and were heading past people in standby and quite away into the que, we saw a family cross under the dividing rope from standby to fastpass and follow behind us to the front. We didn't say anything knowing there is a second fastpass tap station......needless to say they were turned away to the back of the standby line.

 

[Pamela M]

When we stayed in July, we only received the wristbands/had our magic bands checked once! That was because we chose the most unlikely times to swim. One day it was pouring rain but no lightening so the pool was open. We figured we would likely get wet in the pool anyway, lol, so we decided to go swimming. My daughter and I had the entire lazy river to ourselves!!

But to answer the question, I probably would hold the gate. I am not the pool guard (but if the Poly needs one, I know a CM there who is qualified for the job ).

Being in the pool in the rain is the BEST!

 

[atkinstogram]

Due to our security rules, I could be fired at my job for "holding the door" for someone that does not scan. So, most likely, I would not hold it for them at the pool either. Just a habit now.

This is actually something we test for annually, along with the usual phishing email tests. It all falls under the umbrella of testing people's susceptibility to social engneering, which in my company's line of work makes employees prime targets..

 

[sndral]

Due to our security rules, I could be fired at my job for "holding the door" for someone that does not scan. So, most likely, I would not hold it for them at the pool either. Just a habit now.

Funny how divisive this is. I am thinking people who are shocked that others won’t hold the gate are (1) not frequent deluxe guests who have experienced the out of control pool crashing; and (2) not from a city that has had to implement a lot of security protocols around door holding (if someone tried to hold our door at our jewish preschool that had over a dozen bomb and active shooter threats since we enrolled our kids, they’d be tackled to the floor).

We just had new protocols implemented where I’ve volunteered the last dozen years instructing us to not hold access card controlled doors open for others which is in line with what the procedure at my paid job had been for years. I suspect as more people become habituated to this new reality the definition of ‘polite/rude’ will shift. I would not be offended or surprised if someone closed the gate as I walked up - it’s simple enough to scan my band to get in.
IMO the rude person in OP’s scenario is the family yelling ‘hold the gate,’ which sounds awfully entitled to me, either they are crashing the pool or they think it’s my job to be their personal doorman & I’m not enabling either behavior.

 

[dez1978]

Funny how divisive this is. I am thinking people who are shocked that others won’t hold the gate are (1) not frequent deluxe guests who have experienced the out of control pool crashing; and (2) not from a city that has had to implement a lot of security protocols around door holding (if someone tried to hold our door at our jewish preschool that had over a dozen bomb and active shooter threats since we enrolled our kids, they’d be tackled to the floor).

Actually it has nothing to do with any of that for me. It has to do with being taught manners. I worked in a max security prison for 18 years, I've had plenty of experience with security rules and regulations. I've experienced pool crashing. It just isn't my job to keep crashers out of a disney pool. It is my job to teach my children to be polite human beings and part of that includes holding a door/gate for others.

 

[NikkiDP]

If someone is directly behind me then I will of course hold it open, but I'm not sure I would if someone yelled to hold it open. If I was in that situation I think it would have to be a quick assessment as to whether it is a family with their hands full or someone in street clothes. That being said, I would probably panic and inadvertently close it on them either way lol.

Guests shouldn't be the ones patrolling but I have heard rumors that if the pools are crazy crowded that they check your bands sooo IF that is the case it will all even out

 

[simplymama]

Funny how divisive this is. I am thinking people who are shocked that others won’t hold the gate are (1) not frequent deluxe guests who have experienced the out of control pool crashing; and (2) not from a city that has had to implement a lot of security protocols around door holding (if someone tried to hold our door at our jewish preschool that had over a dozen bomb and active shooter threats since we enrolled our kids, they’d be tackled to the floor).

We have stayed at deluxe every time we’ve visited in the past decade.

Comparing a school setting to a private resort pool is apples to oranges. One is about security and safety the other is about common courtesy and manners at a resort unless you are trying to say that you are worried about the gate crashers at a pool as a threat to your or others safety despite the fact that they have already been allowed onsite by Disney’s standard security protocol for the resort.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

I will hold the gate. I’m not the pool police.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

Funny how divisive this is. I am thinking people who are shocked that others won’t hold the gate are (1) not frequent deluxe guests who have experienced the out of control pool crashing; and (2) not from a city that has had to implement a lot of security protocols around door holding (if someone tried to hold our door at our jewish preschool that had over a dozen bomb and active shooter threats since we enrolled our kids, they’d be tackled to the floor).

We have a lot of security protocols at my kids school. Being buzzed in. No holding doors. That’s at school. Not at Disney or a pool. I’m not worried about a shooting or bombing if I accidentally let the wrong person into the pool area. They could do that from right outside the gate.

My last 3 visits have been deluxe. One including the BC. I really don’t care if a non guest is using the pool. I have bigger things to worry about.

 

[eeyoreandtink]

I wouldn't hold the gate. I know it's viewed as the "polite" thing to do, but those who pool hop are looking to take advantage of others kindness. At this point in the game, it's clearly explained to everyone at checkin that they need a magic band to get into the pool and their room. Pretty much no one walks around anymore without someone in their party having one. Without it, you don't have access to your room.

 

[Marionnette]

I find it amusing that people find the need to hurl insults like “pool police” and “rudeness” in an effort to shame people who won’t hold the gate open. I may not be the official “pool police” but I feel very strongly about how crowded the pools get and how difficult it can be for legitimate guests to find a lounge chair. I find absolutely no need to hold a gate to a restricted area open for anyone. If they are guests of the resort, then they have a key card or MB to open that gate themselves. In fact, I find it to be rude when people keep the gates open so that pool crashers can take advantage. You’re actually doing your fellow resort guests a huge disservice.