Tipping- How much and to whom

[kaytieeldr]

I tipped Mousekeeping daily on my last trip in the form of an envelope everyday. I don't think I'll do it again. The service was below par and I always felt I rewarded the mousekeepers that only did a mediocre job. There has to be a better way to do it, but I haven't figured it out yet.

If your standards aren't unreasonably high, by the second day (tipping or not) you should have pushed the Housekeeping button on your phone and had a Supervisor come see your room.

 

[SteelerCountry]

There are people out there that make minimum wage....is that not good enough for servers? If a server makes $2/hr and I give them $25 under the table for 2 hours tip .....do the math and thats only one table. That is more than minimum wage. Don't count on a customary tip %. The restaurants need to take some responsibility... $14 for 4 pieces of shrimp and they call that a shrimp cocktail....prices are very inflated. Anyways...I will tip whom I want and when I want and how much I want. So, no, I won't stay home but thank u all.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Running out of troll food...

 

[KathyTX]

Don't feed the trolls...

 

[kaytieeldr]

Out of troll food

 

[disneychrista]

Don't feed the trolls...

 

[maxiesmom]

A friend of my taught me to look at things this way: If you had a child, and wouldn't like someone treating your child in a certain way, then it isn't right for you to treat someone else's child that way. If I had a son or daughter who waited tables, and I knew they worked hard only to have people stiff them because they didn't like the whole tipping structure, I would be angry. So I won't do that to someone else's child either.

If you don't want to pay a fair tip, then you should not eat at restaurants that require tipping. And if you continue in your current behavior, I wouldn't go back to the same restaurant ever. Wait staff have long memories, and access to your food.

 

[declansdad]

A friend of my taught me to look at things this way: If you had a child, and wouldn't like someone treating your child in a certain way, then it isn't right for you to treat someone else's child that way. If I had a son or daughter who waited tables, and I knew they worked hard only to have people stiff them because they didn't like the whole tipping structure, I would be angry. So I won't do that to someone else's child either.

If you don't want to pay a fair tip, then you should not eat at restaurants that require tipping. And if you continue in your current behavior, I wouldn't go back to the same restaurant ever. Wait staff have long memories, and access to your food.

Tipping is not nor has ever been required. If it is required it isn't a tip, it is a surcharge.

 

[disneychrista]

Tipping is not nor has ever been required. If it is required it isn't a tip, it os a surcharge.

 

[maxiesmom]

Tipping is not nor has ever been required. If it is required it isn't a tip, it is a surcharge.

I think we all know the word surcharge has become a catch all for a long list of required fees. So call it what you want, tipping is required at certain establishments.

 

[Acklander]

In California a server who "goes home" with $50 in tips for a 6 hour shift makes at least $16/hr.

I didn't waitress in California.

 

[declansdad]

I think we all know the word surcharge has become a catch all for a long list of required fees. So call it what you want, tipping is required at certain establishments.

Then call it what it is then, a surcharge because it isn't a tip. Tipping is not something that is required.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Then call it what it is then, a surcharge because it isn't a tip. Tipping is not something that is required.

Okay, then.

The pay scale (aka minimum wage) for restaurant servers in 40 states is such that tipping based on the menu pricing is expected.

Complain about it all you want here, but that's not going to get the server minimum wage in your individual state (or by the Federal government, in states with no minimum wage law) changed. Contacting your State Legislators and working for that change, might.

 

[elfbo]

As someone who waited tables during college, i did the math. Tables turned over generally within an hour, or less. I had 2+ tables at any given time. Working 4 hour shifts. If every table tipped only 2$, and i only had 2 in an hour, I made a minimum of $7.20 an hour. Thats on a slow night.

I ALWAYS came home with at least 25$ in tips every night, plus, my wage. I made better money for time spent then working any retail position i could get at the time.

Now, I dont see why the burden of getting wait staff up to minimum wage rests solely on me. Especially if their service is sub par. If I pay the waitress 10% on $25.00 for a half hour service thats 2.50, $5.00 for 20%, and she has other tables at the same time, she is already over min wage from my tip alone.

So, i no longer worry about supporting wait staff. I tip based on service received.

 

[cornflake]

There are people out there that make minimum wage....is that not good enough for servers? If a server makes $2/hr and I give them $25 under the table for 2 hours tip .....do the math and thats only one table. That is more than minimum wage. Don't count on a customary tip %. The restaurants need to take some responsibility... $14 for 4 pieces of shrimp and they call that a shrimp cocktail....prices are very inflated. Anyways...I will tip whom I want and when I want and how much I want. So, no, I won't stay home but thank u all.

No, that isn't necessarily above minimum wage.

First, most places tip out. So your $12.50 per hour is now divided when the waiter tips out to the bartender and busboys. So say there's one busboy and he and the bartender each get 10% for convenience sake.

Now your incredibly rich server is down to $10.50 an hour you've paid. Now what about the two hours before the restaurant opened that the waiter was doing side work?

What about the next patron, who is one of the above 'neener neener' tippers who stays two hours and tips $5 (which, remember, is also tipped out).

What about if it's slow or someone lingers and kills a table rotation so they tip fine, but their tip is one check's worth when it could have been two had the table turned.

See how this goes?

 

[Planogirl]

Don't feed the trolls...

Thanks.

Plus there's a nifty little feature called Ignore on these forums that I really love at times like these.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Now, I dont see why the burden of getting wait staff up to minimum wage rests solely on me.

It doesn't rest solely on you. It rests on you and your fellow diners in the 40 states where it's legal to pay servers substantially less than minimum wage because the government and the restaurant owners expect the balance of their pay at least up to minimum wage to come from tips.

Once again, if you don't like that: work to get the server minimum wage changed in your state.

 

[sjaakie]

there are numerous posts I wanted to reply to.. then I thought.. why bother?
I bartend, I waitress. People are going to do what they want to do. and tell themselves they are justified for doing so.

taxi cab drivers LOVE picking up us bartenders, bartenders LOVE serving hairdressers.. etc etc. we all understand each other, and know we all work a hard day for a hard buck.

and some of you understand that.... and some of you.............um... don't........ nuff said...

As always you are the voice of reason.
I just looked at my bill from WDW and we did spend almost 400 Dollar on tips alone in six days. That is whiteout cash for Mousekeeping,bell service and valet parking.
EVERY Dollar was spend VERY well and it was wonderful to experience that the wait staff did remember what our favorite drink was and put is in a place were the airco was not freezing cold.

 

[declansdad]

It doesn't rest solely on you. It rests on you and your fellow diners in the 40 states where it's legal to pay servers substantially less than minimum wage because the government and the restaurant owners expect the balance of their pay at least up to minimum wage to come from tips.

Once again, if you don't like that: work to get the server minimum wage changed in your state.

Or tip the way you feel appropriate and have the wait staff complain to get their own wages changed, just like everyone else. Maybe then tipping would actually be used for its intended purpose.

 

[PrincessSuzanne]

Cool. So say this imaginary Mousekeeper earns "as much as" $10 per hour, and is lucky enough to work 40 hours a week every week. She/he optimized the W-4 filing to have 15% withheld weekly for Federal tax, and I believe there's no State oncome tax in Florida? Offhand I don't know the rates for Social Security and Medicare, but let's say $15 per week. Then don't forget the deductions for health care, disability, union dues, miscellaneous...

If this CM is really lucky, they're taking home $300 per week; if they're lottery-winning lucky, they're supporting just themselves - because that "far from minimum wage" gross annual pay of $20,800 is below the poverty line for a household of four.

Currently minimum wage here in AL and GA (where I work) is $7.50/hr, alot of people live off that. So, $10 to $12 an hour is a big deal.

I worked hard and worked my way up from a minimum wage of $5.15/hr, guess they will have to as well. Nobody tipped me for the service I provided in the medical office, so why should a housekeeper get tips?

I guess you could make an argument that most jobs provide a service of some kind, but a line has to be drawn somewhere for those that are tipped and those who aren't.