Throwaway room (read post #2041 or #2710 before posting)

[cakebaker]

double post sorry- forgot how to delete in my old age.

 

[Luvchefmic]

What's next. Check bags for underwear and toothbrushes at value resorts too?

Maybe every Disney reservation should include a search warrant.

Not really sure why this is funny to you. I think it makes perfect sense, you rent a tent site you need a tent.

 

[Canuckbiggs]

Not really sure why this is funny to you. I think it makes perfect sense, you rent a tent site you need a tent.

So, if you rent a value room do you need to show your suitcase and toothbrush at check in?

I will checking into my tent site in about 50 days, sans tent and won't go anywhere near it. Well, maybe I will drive past it just to see it.

 

[FLchick415]

I think the argument is that there are so few camping spaces, if you book one with zero intent to actually use it, you're hypothetically keeping that spot from someone else that actually needs/wants it. Whereas with the values, there are so many rooms, finding space isn't that hard.

 

[Luvchefmic]

I think the argument is that there are so few camping spaces, if you book one with zero intent to actually use it, you're hypothetically keeping that spot from someone else that actually needs/wants it. Whereas with the values, there are so many rooms, finding space isn't that hard.

Yes and No in my opinion. Personally I really don't care what someone wants to do, they certainly don't have to agree with me/or answer to me.

The thing that grates on my nerves is the blatant arrogance the " Hey spend $60. on a " throwaway " and for that money I get: 60 days out for FP+, 9 magic bands ( over $120 there abouts) , 2 days free parking ( what is that another $34. approx.? )etc. and the hell with you attitude.

 

[Canuckbiggs]

I think the argument is that there are so few camping spaces, if you book one with zero intent to actually use it, you're hypothetically keeping that spot from someone else that actually needs/wants it. Whereas with the values, there are so many rooms, finding space isn't that hard.

And?

I am paying for it, just like anyone else.

If you dislike a throwaway campsite you must also dislike a throwaway room. Which is likely just as popular.

I had to use a campsite because I have a party of 9 people, so I was able to only book one campsite to get all the benefits, rather than 2 throwaway rooms.

 

[OtherScott]

I think the argument is that there are so few camping spaces, if you book one with zero intent to actually use it, you're hypothetically keeping that spot from someone else that actually needs/wants it. Whereas with the values, there are so many rooms, finding space isn't that hard.

This can be extrapolated out in a myriad of ways - does the single night tent dweller, who actually sleeps in his tent that lone night before heading off to comfy Windsor Hills, just to get the associated benefits, take the last of a limited number of spots that could have been rented by a family for a week? Does that single night differentiate him from the one with identical motive who rented but stayed elsewhere?

Do the single night hotel dwellers collectively affect the ability for others to book longer stays? Do the affect cost by increasing demand?

Bottom line is every action leads to reaction, so we wind up right back where we started - personal opinions about the propriety of it all.

 

[OtherScott]

And?

I am paying for it, just like anyone else.

If you dislike a throwaway campsite you must also dislike a throwaway room. Which is likely just as popular.

I had to use a campsite because I have a party of 9 people, so I was able to only book one campsite to get all the benefits, rather than 2 throwaway rooms.

I would feel better about you if you actually slept there, even though I don't have a camper or tent.

 

[crystal1273]

Why would anyone want onsite to lose their perks...especially the group booking/paying for rooms to get the perks? Obviously some off site guests want the perks for onsite and will pay for a hotel room to get them, but just don't want to forced to sleep there. The bottom line is there are lots of people who exploit loopholes in different scenarios in life to make the best of their spending or vacation. Each individual has to decide what is right for them. You have exploited one in your previous trips(but hey I know you say it isn't a loophole so it must be true), but now choose to lambast others on this one. It is silly. Some will use a kohls 30% off code when it wasn't emailed or mailed to them just because the code is available online. That is exploiting a loophole, I'm pretty sure kohls didn't intend for every person who can do a google search to get a 30% off and know there is a large number of people who exploit this, but they don't change it b/c they know at the end of the day they are getting money from a customer they wouldn't have without the code. There are tons of other examples of minor exploitations that are done by people everyday. We get it there are some offended by it as has been stated over and over on this thread. Why not just move on already and let those who are looking for information on this particular strategy find the info they need. If WDW has a problem with it, they can easily change the system without impacting their "true" onsite guest by ending the FP perks the same way they do EMH and parking. I doubt people doing this is going to cause WDW to strip all perks from on site guests. That seems very dramatic.

Using a code that is online is hardly the same s a throwaway room. By using a coupon you are not taking anything away from anyone else. However when you book 60 days put without staying on property you are taking fast passes away from another family that is staying on site

 

[OtherScott]

Using a code that is online is hardly the same s a throwaway room. By using a coupon you are not taking anything away from anyone else. However when you book 60 days put without staying on property you are taking fast passes away from another family that is staying on site

When you book 60 days out while staying on property 1 night you are taking fast passes away from another family that is staying on site.

 

[SnowBelleAlice]

When you book 60 days out while staying on property 1 night you are taking fast passes away from another family that is staying on site.

Boo hoo! The original FP had everyone on a level field.
I couldn't care less, we're staying on site next month, stayed on site our previous two WDW visits, I have no problem with off siters booking 60 days out.

 

[FLchick415]

I wasn't saying I agreed or disagreed with the practice either way, I was just trying to clarify what I thought the argument was. It's not my money, so if you got disposable income, what you do with it is none of my business.

 

[OtherScott]

Boo hoo! The original FP had everyone on a level field.
I couldn't care less, we're staying on site next month, stayed on site our previous two WDW visits, I have no problem with off siters booking 60 days out.

I was being ironic. It doesn't matter if a person who books and pays for a 1 night stay actually sleeps in the room or not. The effect on everyone else will be identical under each scenario.

 

[nluvwithdisney]

I think the major issue is booking the room or campsite for the 60 day advantage but then getting more fastpasses at that time for the length of your ticket rather than the length of the stay onsite.

If you have your fastpasses booked for 2 days, it is nothing we can do about. The throwaway whatever it may be was paid for by you. Any additional benefits after that or from a canceled reservation is some shadiness at its best.

 

[OtherScott]

I think the major issue is booking the room or campsite for the 60 day advantage but then getting more fastpasses at that time for the length of your ticket rather than the length of the stay onsite.

If you have your fastpasses booked for 2 days, it is nothing we can do about. The throwaway whatever it may be was paid for by you. Any additional benefits after that or from a canceled reservation is some shadiness at its best.

Same for "split stays?"

 

[magicbob]

I think the major issue is booking the room or campsite for the 60 day advantage but then getting more fastpasses at that time for the length of your ticket rather than the length of the stay onsite.

It's interesting how different aspects seem to be more of a "sticking point" to some people and not others.

I'm not sure I agree with Disney's thinking in this matter, but they made a conscious decision to tie FPs to tickets, not resort reservations. Having an onsite resort reservation entitles you to make reservations at the 60-day mark for your ticket. If your ticket is for longer than your hotel stay, they need to allow you to reserve more than just one day (assuming a 1-night resort stay) or else that would be tantamount to making the FP reservations tied to the room and not the ticket. So, I think that allowing FP+ reservations for as many days as you have on your ticket, regardless of the length of your hotel stay is by design and not an oversight or loophole.

 

[Luckybee]

Actually the moderator has already asked to keep to the topic of the thread. The topic of this thread isn't are people who using throwaway rooms morally bankrupt or will it cause on site to lose their perks so start a new thread to discuss those topics specifically if you want.

You are correct but there are those who are hell bent on trying to get this thread shut down so that people can't learn about throwaway rooms. It suits their purposes to do so. There are those who will post here every time someone asks a question, not on the topic of the question but rather to pass moral judgement. Not to assist the poster but rather to pontificate and attempt to blur the facts.

Last I checked the title of these boards were "theme park attractions and strategies" . PURCHASING a throwaway room is clearly a valid strategy until Disney chooses for it not to be . The moderator has already spoken on this issue. If certain individuals continue to harass and harangue I'm sure the moderators will deal with it.

 

[Luckybee]

It's interesting how different aspects seem to be more of a "sticking point" to some people and not others.

I'm not sure I agree with Disney's thinking in this matter, but they made a conscious decision to tie FPs to tickets, not resort reservations. Having an onsite resort reservation entitles you to make reservations at the 60-day mark for your ticket. If your ticket is for longer than your hotel stay, they need to allow you to reserve more than just one day (assuming a 1-night resort stay) or else that would be tantamount to making the FP reservations tied to the room and not the ticket. So, I think that allowing FP+ reservations for as many days as you have on your ticket, regardless of the length of your hotel stay is by design and not an oversight or loophole.

Ding ding ding....we have a winner. It is for the same reason that there are even some who reported being able to book 60 days out when they've had a fair number of adr's even though they were not on property. It may be that Disney is simply looking for $ spend as a criteria . Who knows. Certainly no one here and as long as Disney allows it it will continue.
And since that is clear...perhaps we could now stick to the topic at hand since the moderator has asked us to do so (not suggesting you weren't btw Bob....more as a reminder to others who didnt seem to get what the moderator said and have already indicated that they feel free to ignore it )

 

[SnowBelleAlice]

I was being ironic. It doesn't matter if a person who books and pays for a 1 night stay actually sleeps in the room or not. The effect on everyone else will be identical under each scenario.

Noted, ones tone is often difficult to decipher via text

 

[MOM POPPINS]

My question is if I book a room for December how long out can you make fast pass pluses for the 60 day booking advantage. I know there is a 7 day rolling window... but say we book a night for December 1st. how long is the booking window...We are actually going to use the room but we are staying longer than the night that is booked. Just for an example if I booked a room for say December 1st. Can I book fast passes for the end of December ?
I hope this makes since...