Three Yr Old Boy Dies At Wdw !!!!!!

[DisneyMim]

I am so sad reading this. What a horible tragedy for the family. I have always had nightmares of this happening. So so sad.

I want to add that no I don't know the circumstances of this tragedy, but I had an emergency in Epcot in 1996 and the Disney people could not have been more helpful. I was rushed to the First Aid station at Epcot and then rushed to the local hospital. This was all done behind the park. They were wonderful. I can't help but think that Disney would have done everything they could to help this little boy. I am crying as I write this. God Bless the boy and family.

 

[browneyes]

So sad for the family.

I'm sure Disney did all they could do in the circumstances. Fingers shouldn't be pointed at anyone. I know when something like this happens, loved ones feel they should blame someone to try to make some sense of their loss. I'll pray for the family.

 

[cgcw]

My heart goes out to the boys family. How tragic.

I had to do the heimlich manuver on my own son when he was 5. He choked on a mouthful of pasta. Fortunately, we were able to get it out. It was very, very scary.

 

[SeaSpray]

You know, I try to never post unless I can add something positive to a thread... that won't be the case this time.

I am sad beyond words to read what happened Choking is a very personal subject. I almost died 38 years ago, when I was 3 years old, on a piece of hard Christmas candy that I found in a candy dish in our livingroom. This was pre-Heimlich. My father picked me up and slammed me on the table several times, trying to get the candy to dislodge. I can remember my father's fingers down my throat trying to grab the candy. I can remember my older sister (13 at the time) crying and hiding behind my mother, I can remember my mother yelling to my father "why is there blood coming out of her mouth!!!!????" Well the blood was from my father's fingernails, tearing up my throat, as he successfully (obviously ) got the candy out of my throat. I've always been amazed at the clarity of my memory of this. I assume because it was such a traumatic experience. When I became an adult, my father told me that he thought I was dead at one point, I must've been going in and out of consciousness.

Anyway....reading this thread really made the memories flood back to me, once again. And I want to say that parents, in this day and age, should really know better than to give a toddler or preschooler a hot dog that has not been diced up into small pieces. Just taking the skin off is NOT enough. It is unfair to try and blame Disney for this tragic death I am so sad to read about it, like I said, this is an issue I feel very personally and strongly about. My sons are now 15 and 12 and until recently I would dice up their mozzarella sticks, another cause of people choking to death, even adults. My sister, now a grandmother, was traumatized by seeing me almost choke and never would allow her daughter, and now her granddaughter, to eat anything that could cause choking. No hard candy. lol And she cut up other choking-causing foods into small pieces, just like I did.

In case anyone is wondering... If I had died, who's fault would it have been? Yes, it would've been an accident, but it also would've been my parent's fault for having candy like that in the reach of a toddler. Back then though, knowing what did and didn't cause choking in young children was not as widely known as it is now. Still....if you HAD to place the blame somewhere, it would lie with a child's parent. Period. I know this sounds harsh but it's the simple truth. Even if I hadn't experienced almost choking to death, I'd know enough, simply from existing in the world we live in now, what causes choking in young children.

 

[Eeyore2U]

There is a similar post on the Theme Park Board. The crowd over there is MUCH more skeptical then you folks. Why did no one see it in the paper? Why is it taking two weeks to come out? There was man from my state that died last year and it was out on the boards in HOURS. I feel for the family IF it happened. My thought as is the thought of the posters is, we would like some facts to prove that this isn't urban legend.

 

[MerryPoppins]

My heart goes out to that family. I'm sure their hearts are breaking. I think we should all be extra careful when feeding little ones, as we remember this story.

Hot dogs should be sliced and cut into half moons at the very least. I usally cut them in fourths and thin slices for a preschool child. You also need to make sure that they don't put too much in at one time. Bananas are just as deadly. They should be cut the same way. And sticky peanut butter can be bad. A chunk of peanut butter sandwich can wedge pretty tight. Use common sense.

 

[Blondie]

Originally posted by TwingleMum
I mean why did't Disney security clear a path ahead of time for the ambulance???

Very tragic for everyone involved, but have you ever been there during that time of year? You can barely fit a single person through the crowds, let alone clear a path for an ambulance. I'm surey Disney did everything it could under those extreme circumstances.

Very sad nonetheless.

 

[dcgrumpy]

I actually heard about this over a week ago from someone who posts here. The mother is a teacher in her children's school.


Twinglemum-Which school district does your sister for?

 

[dcgrumpy]

I just read your thread on the other board and see it is the same school district.

 

[MickeyCrazed]

If this really did happen, my heart goes out to the family.
However, after taking several backstage tours, I find it difficult to believe that the EMTs were not able to respond....
I would think the first thing the CMs (Disney Security) would do would be to take steps to move this child quickly backstage. Then emergency medical personnel could respond quickly without worry of crowds.
I've seen medical personnel work in exactly this way one time during a visit to the MK. The person was laying on the ground when we arrived and CMs moved the person backstage very efficiently. I would say it was done within 3 minutes.
This sounds like an urban legend to me, but I will keep the family in my prayers in case it isn't.

 

[JimB.]

I just did a Google search and cannot find a THING regarding this possible occurrence.

I'm not saying it DIDN't happen (hopefully not), butr I'd think there would be something out there in cyberspace about it.........

 

[TwingleMum]

Dcgrumpy & Briarrose live in the same community as my sister and they knew about it. No its not an urban legend I'm sure his mother wishes it was. I didn't post this to have the hot lights come out or my veracity questioned. I wrote right after I found out. I was doing a lot of OT and hadn't spoken to my sister in a week. She didn't want to tell me because I've be so excited about taking my little boys to WDW. But she was worried and finally told me. I wanted to warn everyone to be careful with their children. I wanted to protect them all. I didn't ever wabt to hear of another family in this pain. I still am sceptical about WDW response efficiency but I think when something this horrendous happens you need to assign blame and I will not point the finger at that mother she'll spend the rest of her life doing that. I also called the church to see if I could donate or help but they are still trying to figure out how best to help this poor family

 

[WebmasterAlex]

If it happend recently a google search probably wouldn't pick it up.
Disney does have a way of keeping this sort of thing pretty quiet.

 

[Eeyore2U]

Originally posted by TwingleMum
. I still am sceptical about WDW response efficiency but I think when something this horrendous happens you need to assign blame and I will not point the finger at that mother she'll spend the rest of her life doing that.

So it is OK to blame Disney, if this happened at all? Where is there culpability? Until you or someone else can provide facts I think responsibility can't be Disney's.

 

[dandave]

TwingleMum, I honestly don't feel that anyone else can be blamed, but the parent. The parent was responsible for giving the hot dog to the child.
How could Disney have done anything other than try CPR techniques? I know that an ambulance could probably not reach my home in 6 minutes or less, and that's really all it takes before brain damage occurs.
If I jumped into the grand lagoon and sucked in water, then it would be my fault- not Disney's for not fishing me out fast enough.



Choking, drowning, electric shock, auto or sports accidents, poisonous gas, suffocation, stroke or other medical problems can interrupt breathing. When a person stops breathing, it is a serious emergency. The person's chest does not move, the face and skin become bluish and there is no exhaled breath. Once breathing has stopped, permanent brain damage or death can result in four to six minutes Every second counts.
http://www.plainsense.com/Health/Heart/rescuebreath.htm

 

[ripleysmom]

This story is true. The teacher teaches 4th grade at Abbey Lane school in my school district which is Levittown school district. The wake was last week and notification was posted in all the schools for any staff that wished to attend.

My heart really breaks for that mom.....

 

[WebmasterAlex]

Oh come on.. a three year old is dead. Can't we leave blame and fingerpointing for the lawyers? If there's an investigation they will figure out who is to blame.
We don't have all of the facts and this isn't the debate board. Feel free to start it over there if you want to debate blame.

 

[dandave]

Alex, The OP chose to blame Disney. I simply redirected the finger.

As I posted earlier in this thread, my own son almost choked to death. I was terrified. Ultimately, however, it was no one's fault but my own, since I served him the chicken nugget.

This is tragic, but I see no gain by blaming WDW. JMHO

 

[WebmasterAlex]

The OP asked some questions.
As I thought I made perfectly clear we are done discussing it on this thread. Post it on the debate board if you want a debate.

 

[JasonLyons]

thats so sad