Thoughts on the Adventure?

[leeleemurph]

It has to be short and sweet so no one melted in the sun! The theater pool area where Moana is show is the aft of the ship and not covered and was so toasty! 15 minutes felt like the maximum time anyone would want to sit in the sun and see the show. I agree it was good though, and Maui's songs were top notch.

Hahaha, so true! I'm from Ireland and I'm translucent pale so I had to cover myself with towels while watching it! It's a great area but soooo hot in the sun. We enjoyed sitting out there in the evening though when it was dark and listening to some of the musicians. Very chill vibes!

 

[DCLGirlie]

But as has been detailed in discussions surrounding the Adventure, including on this very board, the US and UK aren't the target markets for this ship. The population of SE Asia, China and India absolutely dwarfs the populations of the US and UK, and one look at the theming, offerings and menus on the ship absolutely reinforces who the target demographics are.

I think that despite the three parks located in Asia, people are still struggling with the idea that Disney doesn't always first and foremost cater towards the Western market. Not aimed directly at you, but there seems to be a vacuum within the Disney subculture that thinks Americans are the only ones that visit Disney, hence the Adventure is simply "too far" away (with complete oversight of the fact that people living in Australia and Asia face the same predicament if they wanted to sail out of Florida).

And I am going to add my two cents that it is a GOOD THING that Disney has learned its lesson about making sure that their products actually appeal to the market they are entering, rather than copying and pasting what worked in America. Copying and pasting what worked in America without accounting for cultural differences is why the original openings of then-Euro Disneyland now-Disneyland Paris and Hong Kong Disneyland were such utter disasters.

 

[AquaDame]

But as has been detailed in discussions surrounding the Adventure, including on this very board, the US and UK aren't the target markets for this ship. The population of SE Asia, China and India absolutely dwarfs the populations of the US and UK, and one look at the theming, offerings and menus on the ship absolutely reinforces who the target demographics are.

I think that despite the three parks located in Asia, people are still struggling with the idea that Disney doesn't always first and foremost cater towards the Western market. Not aimed directly at you, but there seems to be a vacuum within the Disney subculture that thinks Americans are the only ones that visit Disney, hence the Adventure is simply "too far" away (with complete oversight of the fact that people living in Australia and Asia face the same predicament if they wanted to sail out of Florida).

Such a big trip is likely a one and done also for folks that do it... how many times will die hard Disney loving Americans celebrate milestones by flying halfway around the world and taking a cruise that hits those three cities? It seems very limiting compared to attracting the folk who live in those areas.

 

[WB1971]

But as has been detailed in discussions surrounding the Adventure, including on this very board, the US and UK aren't the target markets for this ship. The population of SE Asia, China and India absolutely dwarfs the populations of the US and UK, and one look at the theming, offerings and menus on the ship absolutely reinforces who the target demographics are.

I think that despite the three parks located in Asia, people are still struggling with the idea that Disney doesn't always first and foremost cater towards the Western market. Not aimed directly at you, but there seems to be a vacuum within the Disney subculture that thinks Americans are the only ones that visit Disney, hence the Adventure is simply "too far" away (with complete oversight of the fact that people living in Australia and Asia face the same predicament if they wanted to sail out of Florida).

Well said. And there are plenty of US/UK fans who will still make the effort. I live within super easy drive from the Florida ports, and have the Adventure booked for 2027.

 

[Anku]

I really think if you are flying halfway across the globe to another country, experiencing that country's culture / visiting their famous sights should be your focus, the Disney park or cruise is really just the 'icing on the cake' 'tick off bucket list' thing that can be the impetus for the trip but not the only purpose.

Most people's holiday time is finite, so in this case, I actually think 3-4 days at sea cruise length on th Disney Adventure is perfect, it's enough to scratch the Disney itch, there is so much to do on board already to fill those sea days, and if you fly so far to get to Asia, you would want to spend more time exploring rest of Asia rather than being on a Disney cruise the whole time.

 

[leeleemurph]

I really think if you are flying halfway across the globe to another country, experiencing that country's culture / visiting their famous sights should be your focus, the Disney park or cruise is really just the 'icing on the cake' 'tick off bucket list' thing that can be the impetus for the trip but not the only purpose.

Most people's holiday time is finite, so in this case, I actually think 3-4 days at sea cruise length on th Disney Adventure is perfect, it's enough to scratch the Disney itch, there is so much to do on board already to fill those sea days, and if you fly so far to get to Asia, you would want to spend more time exploring rest of Asia rather than being on a Disney cruise the whole time.

Totally wholeheartedly agree with this! For us it was an amazing opportunity to go and explore Singapore, which is a fantastic city! I loved that we got to cruise on a new ship but equally Im so glad we were able to explore a completely new country and it's culture. If I were to sail the adventure again I would tie it into a wider Asia trip as a bonus rather than the focus.

 

[Sleepyluke]

My problem with the Adventure (like anybody cares or listens) is that this seems to be an extension of a Chapek idea that did not work and the fact that the ship had to be finished extended the time until we see the problem. The UK staycation kinda worked because of when it happened, but when it went to Australia, they didn't continue to fill the ship so they brought the ship back to the US. While any ship has a cool factor, I don't know if the staycation lasts over 18 months of bookings before it becomes 1/2 to 3/4 full at best. Maybe I am wrong, but seems to be the standard of this type. How well does the Adventure hold up if brought to the US and plays in the Caribbean or Mexico routes?

 

[cinnamoroll]

I went in with super low expectations due to the initial negative reviews but ended up loving it. For our family the ship is the destination if we're paying mouse tax, we do land-based vacations when we really want to experience a destination, so having no ports was not an issue. Both sailings were full/close to full capacity but honestly it didn't feel that crowded. We skipped the fireworks though, heard that was a clustereff with fights breaking out!

The layout is much better than the Wish class ships. San Fransokyo is so much fun and Imagination Garden is gorgeous. Not a Marvel fan but surprisingly really enjoyed Avengers Assemble. Remember is easily the best show in the fleet. Duffy show is cute and the Moana show is just meh. I like that they switched up Seas the Adventure a bit. Quick service restaurants weren't quick at all... I think offering mobile ordering would help. Dining service was the fastest we've received and the food is our favourite in the fleet. I think we got lucky with our dining teams, though, have heard horror stories from others. We were able to book all the characters and Ironcycle was SO much fun! Character meet and greets are reservations-only and that worked really well. You just show up during your booked window and be done with it. They also limit it to one photo per stateroom to speed things up. I wish they'd do this on the other ships so we don't have to stand in line for hours on end. I've also never seen this many characters roam around on the decks, and that frequently.

Some cast members could use better training but the overall experience was great and we've booked another B2B for next year. It's now our second favourite ship, after the Treasure (we have not sailed the Dream, Fantasy, or Destiny).

 

[jimmymc]

I really think if you are flying halfway across the globe to another country, experiencing that country's culture / visiting their famous sights should be your focus, the Disney park or cruise is really just the 'icing on the cake' 'tick off bucket list' thing that can be the impetus for the trip but not the only purpose.

Most people's holiday time is finite, so in this case, I actually think 3-4 days at sea cruise length on th Disney Adventure is perfect, it's enough to scratch the Disney itch, there is so much to do on board already to fill those sea days, and if you fly so far to get to Asia, you would want to spend more time exploring rest of Asia rather than being on a Disney cruise the whole time.

I totally agree. Very few people should fly around the world for this, but adding 3-4 nights on to a longer trip is perfect. I feel the same way about visiting theme parks in new countries.

 

[peder]

I totally agree. Very few people should fly around the world for this, but adding 3-4 nights on to a longer trip is perfect. I feel the same way about visiting theme parks in new countries.

Sure, but Disney does this thing where they decide that everyone has to do the same thing. They didn't even make any effort to offer 5+ day sailings that actually stop anywhere.

 

[jimmymc]

Sure, but Disney does this thing where they decide that everyone has to do the same thing. They didn't even make any effort to offer 5+ day sailings that actually stop anywhere.

The Wish and Treasure do two itineraries all year, and they seem to be doing fine. It's pretty standard practice on Disney for a new ship.

 

[asgur5]

I really think if you are flying halfway across the globe to another country, experiencing that country's culture / visiting their famous sights should be your focus, the Disney park or cruise is really just the 'icing on the cake' 'tick off bucket list' thing that can be the impetus for the trip but not the only purpose.

Most people's holiday time is finite, so in this case, I actually think 3-4 days at sea cruise length on th Disney Adventure is perfect, it's enough to scratch the Disney itch, there is so much to do on board already to fill those sea days, and if you fly so far to get to Asia, you would want to spend more time exploring rest of Asia rather than being on a Disney cruise the whole time.

Normally i would agree with this. But its Singapore. Nothing interesting, historical or exotic about Singapore. Very boring place.

 

[asgur5]

The Wish and Treasure do two itineraries all year, and they seem to be doing fine. It's pretty standard practice on Disney for a new ship.

The wish and treasure go to a disney beach island. Adventure stops no where. And by all reports it barely even moves.

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

Honestly, I'm starting to get the sense that you don't really like the Adventure, its sailing schedules, or home port.

 

[scroogie]

Honestly, I'm starting to get the sense that you don't really like the Adventure, its sailing schedules, or home port.

It seems to be a certain demographic/nationality that is taking it very personally that Disney's had the nerve to cater to a part of the world that is inconvenient for them to get to, as if they have some sort of total ownership or right to anything "Disney" because it hails from that same country. Criticising everything they can, from itineraries, ship layout, onboard offerings, etc is their way of convincing themselves that they're not missing out on anything because they can't cope any other way.

 

[asgur5]

It seems to be a certain demographic/nationality that is taking it very personally that Disney's had the nerve to cater to a part of the world that is inconvenient for them to get to, as if they have some sort of total ownership or right to anything "Disney" because it hails from that same country. Criticising everything they can, from itineraries, ship layout, onboard offerings, etc is their way of convincing themselves that they're not missing out on anything because they can't cope any other way.

Um no i live closer to the adventure then any other dcl ship. I know Singapore is boring. Ive been there like 12 times.

 

[leeleemurph]

Normally i would agree with this. But its Singapore. Nothing interesting, historical or exotic about Singapore. Very boring place.

You are fully entitled to your opinion. But just because you've been to a place multiple times and find it boring, doesn't mean that everyone will. We absolutely loved Singapore, we still talk about it every day. We live in Ireland and we regularly travel all over Europe to extremely historic cities and yet Singapore to us was equally as interesting as many of the places we've visited. It was nice to visit somewhere so completely different from the norm. Not every place will appeal to everyone and that's ok. And not every ship will appeal to everyone and that's also ok. But the negativity around the Adventure is very tiresome at this point. If you don't like it then don't sail on it. What is the point in rehashing the same points over and over.

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

If you don't like it then don't sail on it. What is the point in rehashing the same points over and over.

Amen!

 

[peder]

The Wish and Treasure do two itineraries all year, and they seem to be doing fine. It's pretty standard practice on Disney for a new ship.

There are choices in the Caribbean, but Disney isn't providing any choices for SE Asia.

But even in the Caribbean I would point out that Disney is hardly offering any choice, and it's led them to offering a ton of discounts in the past year and it's largely because their itineraries are *awful* and repetitive. Nobody hates the cruise industry like DCL does.

 

[asgur5]

You are fully entitled to your opinion. But just because you've been to a place multiple times and find it boring, doesn't mean that everyone will. We absolutely loved Singapore, we still talk about it every day. We live in Ireland and we regularly travel all over Europe to extremely historic cities and yet Singapore to us was equally as interesting as many of the places we've visited. It was nice to visit somewhere so completely different from the norm. Not every place will appeal to everyone and that's ok. And not every ship will appeal to everyone and that's also ok. But the negativity around the Adventure is very tiresome at this point. If you don't like it then don't sail on it. What is the point in rehashing the same points over and over.

views are subjective but realities are not. Realities are real. Singapore has little history because it was a small insignificant trading post for most of its history. Its not a city thats been around for 500 plus years. Historically it is objectively uninteresting. There are no fascinating sites to see. Most tourists take photos of a 20 year old hotel with a big infinity pool on top and some fake metallic trees. It has no nice beach or natural sites to visit. Its cloudy most of the time (its not alone there in that part of asia though), the theme parks/family activities are not up to international standard either. There is no unique culture with most people who live there ethnic Chinese importing Chinese culture.The place is boring for most people who have travelled. Especially anywhere else in Asia.

And we can complain because this our ship. Its the only one in Asia and we want it up to the standard of the other ones. We cant afford to travel to Florida often as its on the other side of the planet. Especially given the wonder has now gone. 3 musical shows instead of 2, adults pool and entertainment, a kids club that stays open all day, ports to go see outside singapore and cruises longer then 4 days. Was this too much to ask? A lot of these issues are fixable so complaining could help if enough people do it.