This should scare us all about Palin

[elan]

Because it has become a witch hunt!

BOOOHOOO. Don't you think she would face more scrutiny if she ever became a vp? If she can't handle this.....

 

[ladyjayhawk]

Because it has become a witch hunt!

BOOOHOOO. Don't you think she would face more scrutiny if she ever became a vp? If she can't handle this.....

It's not that she can't handle it, but rather that it is not going to be a fair investigation.

 

[wendy46001]

It's not that she can't handle it, but rather that it is not going to be a fair investigation.

how is it not going to be fair? I honestly want to know?
the investigators were appointed before her VP nomination and she agreed....

next they'll be calling the investigators sexist

 

[LotsOfQuestions]

Wouldn't someone who had nothing to hide cooperate fully with the investigation and put it behind them? This is ridiculous! This is why I didn't like the focus on her parenting early on---She has enough to answer for in regard to her governing, but clearly answering questions is not high on the agenda! Truth and honor have long ago left the Republican campain, in my opinion. I only hope that Americans can see behind their smokescreen of supposed change.

McCain Palin Myth: Sarah Palin Told Congress “Thanks But No Thanks” On That Bridge to Nowhere
FACT: Palin Was Before It Before She Was Against It - Kept the Money for Other Projects

McCain Myth: Sarah Palin NEVER Sought Earmarks As Governor.
FACT: Palin Sought Nearly $200 Million Earmarks For The Coming Year.

McCain Myth: Palin Is a Reformer Who Brought Ethics Back to Alaskan Politics
FACT: Palin Is Under Investigation and refuses to cooperate, Faces a Separate Ethics Complaint and Signed a Weak Ethics Law

I am beginning to think that the right are the ones who created the whole parenting uproar just to create a smokescreen for the real facts and problems.

Attack poor lil 'ol Ms. Palin about her kids and get the country to feel sorry for her, all the while keeping anybody from focusing on the real issues about her.

As "Hillary" said in the SNL sketch - the media needs to get some balls. It is not sexist to ask her about nor investigate her political dealings.

 

[DVCKennyD]

To say that the so called "non partisan investigation" is anything but a political hit job aimed at some type of October Surprise is disingenuous at best.

http://townhall.com/columnists/Aman...an_tampers_with_palin_subpoena_list?page=full

A Friday hearing revealed that an Obama partisan has manipulated an independent investigator’s subpoena list for a controversial inquiry against GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.
The investigation is intended to determine whether Palin abused her office by firing Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan. Palin says she fired him over budget issues. Her foes believe the firing was due to Monegan’s unwillingness to fire Palin’s former brother-in-law State Trooper Mike Wooten, a man who has admitted to “tasering” his stepson, illegally shooting a moose and has been accused of threatening his former father-in-law with violence and drinking in his police car.
Investigator Steven Branchflower admitted he had ceded control of his subpoena list to Sen. Hollis French (D.) during Alaska’s Joint Judiciary Committee September 12 hearing that was scheduled to approve subpoena requests. [CLICK HERE FOR AUDIO.] French is a partisan who has endorsed Palin’s Democratic presidential ticket rival Barack Obama for president and is actively supporting his candidacy.

Lawmakers approved 13 of Branchflower’s subpoena requests that day, which included one for Palin’s husband, Todd. Four other subpoenas were approved for aides Branchflower believes participated in a meeting called by Palin’s former chief of staff Mike Tibbles where Wooten’s firing was allegedly discussed.
Rep. David Guttenberg (D.) asked Branchflower why he was requesting subpoenas for only those people attending the meeting and not Tibbles himself.
Branchflower said he would “have to defer that question to Mr. French.”
“I put the list together with, talking to Mr. French,” Branchflower added.
Sen. Gene Therriault (R.) told Branchflower, “I don’t understand why you would have to defer that question to Sen. French. If it’s your list you’re in complete control of the list, then why can’t you answer the question?”
Branchflower had no explanation. He only offered, “I’m not sure why his name was removed. My initial request was to have him on the list.” At that point, French interjected. “It appeared to me there wasn’t the political will to subpoena Tibbles.”
“Something’s fishy here,” Therriault replied. “I mean either Mr. Branchflower conducts his investigation without direction, and now we know he’s been directed on the date and changing what he’s doing and how he’s doing it because of the time pressure he is feeling.And now we’re hearing that people that he’s trying to get information from, there’s direction going on on that, too.”
Indeed. Although the investigation is far from concluding, French has suggested it may culminate in an “October surprise,” perhaps even Palin's impeachment as Governor-- a game-changing outcome that would certainly increase the Democrats chances of winning the White House in November.
The final report, which French has already described as “damaging,” is set to be released on October 31, four days shy of the presidential election. Since the investigation began last August, there have been disputes over the timing over the report’s release, as Therriault mentioned. Although there’s been general agreement that Branchflower should conduct his investigation in a “timely” fashion, some Democratic politicos, like French, have been pushing for an October deadline.
French, who is “project director” of the inquiry against Palin, and investigator Branchflower are two of three main players in this investigation Republicans say have been tainted by partisan politics. The other is Democratic Sen. Kim Elton, chairman of Alaska’s Legislature’s Legislative Council that’s overseeing the investigation. Both French and Elton are strong Obama backers.
Branchflower, who currently resides in South Carolina, was appointed by French to conduct the actual investigation. He worked with French several years ago when both were members of Alaskan law enforcement.
Palin’s lawyer Thomas Van Flein said the entire investigation is “unlawful and unconstitutional.” He recently wrote a terse letter to Branchflower, blasting the investigator’s “seemingly biased conduct of the investigation in recent weeks.”
Alaskan Republicans have asked Chairman Elton to replace French with someone less partisan, but Elton denied their request.
According to campaign finance data available on opensecrets.com Elton has donated at least $2,000 to Obama’s campaign. Three other Democrats on the Elton’s 14-member council are also supporting Obama for president, as identified on Obama’s presidential website.
Further fueling the GOP’s fire is the fact that former Commissioner Monegan and state trooper Wooten are surprisingly mild-mannered about this “scandal” that’s blown into a national news story after Palin’s vice presidential appointment.
Monegan told the Anchorage Daily News on August 30 that he was never pressured to dismiss Palin’s former brother-in-law. “For the record,” he said, “no one has ever said fire Wooten. Not the governor. Not Todd. Not any of the other staff.”
Wooten, for his part, has reportedly turned down at least $30,000 from tabloids hungry for his side of the story. His union, however, the Public Safety Employees Association, filed a complaint with the Attorney General’s office, to find out if Wooten’s personnel file had ever been illegally disclosed.
The same week PSEA filed their complaint, CNN reported that Obama campaign officials had been contacting Wooten’s union, although Obama spokesmen have vehemently refuted CNN’s report as well as one from the Wall Street Journal’s John Fund that said more than 30 lawyers, investigators and opposition researches had been deployed to Alaska to dig up dirt on Palin.



And this doesn't sound like stonewalling to me


http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/...rgate-releases-memos-showing-insubordination/


Sarah Palin issued a response to the Troopergate investigation yesterday by releasing internal memoranda that show Walt Monegan got fired for insubordination on budget matters and not because of his refusal to fire Palin’s former brother-in-law. Monegan went behind Palin’s back to attempt to revive a project Palin had vetoed, which “stunned” the Office of Management and Budget Director. On another occasion, Monegan held a press conference with Hollis French to dissent from Palin’s budget priorities — the same Hollis French pushing the ethics complaint against Palin:

Walt Monegan lost his job as public safety director because he resisted Gov. Sarah Palin’s budget policies and showed “outright insubordination,” say papers the governor’s lawyer filed Monday with the state Personnel Board.
It was Palin’s strongest effort yet to snuff allegations she sacked Monegan because he refused to fire a state trooper involved in an ugly divorce with the governor’s sister.
Along with the papers filed Monday were a slew of e-mails from the governor’s office purporting to show Monegan’s “rogue mentality” as a member of Palin’s Cabinet.
In one message, the governor’s budget director, Karen Rehfeld, wrote that she was “stunned and amazed” that Monegan appeared to be working with a powerful state legislator, Anchorage Republican Rep. Kevin Meyer, to seek funding for a project Palin previously had vetoed.
​

According to the papers filed by Palin’s legal team, that was not the only instance of insubordination from Monegan:

• 12/9/07: Monegan holds a press conference with Hollis French to push his own budget plan.
• 1/29/08: Palin’s staffers have to rework their procedures to keep Monegan from bypassing normal channels for budget requests.
• February 2008: Monegan publicly releases a letter he wrote to Palin supporting a project she vetoed.
• June 26, 2008: Monegan bypassed the governor’s office entirely and contacted Alaska’s Congressional delegation to gain funding for a project.

From this presentation, it looks like Monegan had decided from the start to be a loose cannon in the Palin administration. The wonder of this isn’t that he got fired — it’s how he managed to hang onto his job as long as he did. The response calls Monegan’s trip to Washington the “final straw”, and it’s not difficult to see why. Monegan even admitted it in his valedictory e-mail to his colleagues, saying that he “had waited too long outside her door for her to believe that I supported her.” Nor did Monegan file an ethics complaint, as the law would have required him to do, if he felt his termination violated state ethics laws. (Palin filed the complaint herself to argue the case.)
As the filing states, Monegan served as a political appointee, at the pleasure of the Governor. Obviously, Monegan didn’t act to support Palin’s budget initiatives, often acting in opposition to them. In anyone’s administration, that will result in dismissal. Monegan kicked himself out of the job through his own acts.


KennyD

 

[ladyjayhawk]

how is it not going to be fair? I honestly want to know?
the investigators were appointed before her VP nomination and she agreed....

next they'll be calling the investigators sexist

Should one of the committee members be announcing BEFORE the investigation that the results would be damaging to Palin?

Should the independent investigator have names taken off his subpoena list by this same committee member?

Should the independent investigator be a long-time friend of the man that was fired?

Will you please answer these questions? I honestly want to know.

 

[transparant]

Obama scares me and plenty of other American's way more than Sarah ever could (FTR - she doesn't scare me one bit).

 

[SteveInBrooklyn]

I am beginning to think that the right are the ones who created the whole parenting uproar just to create a smokescreen for the real facts and problems.

Attack poor lil 'ol Ms. Palin about her kids and get the country to feel sorry for her, all the while keeping anybody from focusing on the real issues about her.

As "Hillary" said in the SNL sketch - the media needs to get some balls. It is not sexist to ask her about nor investigate her political dealings.

"Hillary" was right. I asked earlier, did Sarah Palin tell Charlie Gibson that she was willing to cooperate? If I remember correctly, I think she did. If she did say that last week, was she lying? If not, what changed between now and last week.

 

[SteveInBrooklyn]

Obama scares me and plenty of other American's way more than Sarah ever could (FTR - she doesn't scare me one bit).

The thought of that painted imbecilic trollope representing our country should be enough to scare anyone. That look might be de rigeur in the Crank Capital of Alaska, but to the rest of the world she looks like an aging tranny prostitute.

 

[ladyjayhawk]

The thought of that painted imbecilic trollope representing our country should be enough to scare anyone. That look might be de rigeur in the Crank Capital of Alaska, but to the rest of the world she looks like an aging tranny prostitute.

Is that ALL you have? Insulting her looks? Are you in middle school?

Regardless of her politics, Sarah Palin is a very beautiful woman.

 

[transparant]

Is that ALL you have? Insulting her looks? Are you in middle school?

Regardless of her politics, Sarah Palin is a very beautiful woman.

I was wondering the same thing. That was seriously immature and Jr. High School.

 

[LotsOfQuestions]

Obama scares me and plenty of other American's way more than Sarah ever could (FTR - she doesn't scare me one bit).

Why are you posting negative Obama comments on a Palin thread?

(sorry to go off topic everybody, but Transparant just asked me why I was posting on a support Palin thread, so just had to ask her why she was posting here - Carry on)

 

[SteveInBrooklyn]

Is that ALL you have? Insulting her looks? Are you in middle school?

Regardless of her politics, Sarah Palin is a very beautiful woman.

Is that all we have? Not quite. We also have that she is liar (compulsive liar, it seems), she's corrupt, she's really stupid, she attended 6 colleges in 5 years (none of them top schools), she has no foreign policy experience, she thinks being able to see Russia from her house IS foreign policy experience, she admint she she took the VP job without even blinking, without even thinking about the consequences for her family!!! Really, that's only a fraction of what we have, but I'm not going to risk carpal tunnel to lay it all out.

 

[SteveInBrooklyn]

What I'm saying is: she is a small-time nobody and the thought of her leading our great country should terrify all of us.

 

[transparant]

What I'm saying is: she is a small-time nobody and the thought of her leading our great country should terrify all of us.

Oh. Glad you clarified. Because I thought you were saying this:

The thought of that painted imbecilic trollope representing our country should be enough to scare anyone. That look might be de rigeur in the Crank Capital of Alaska, but to the rest of the world she looks like an aging tranny prostitute.

 

[SteveInBrooklyn]

Oh. Glad you clarified. Because I thought you were saying this:

The thought of that painted imbecilic trollope representing our country should be enough to scare anyone. That look might be de rigeur in the Crank Capital of Alaska, but to the rest of the world she looks like an aging tranny prostitute.

I couldn't have said it better myself. It's terrifying, don't you think. Absolutely terrifying.

 

[OceanAnnie]

Should one of the committee members be announcing BEFORE the investigation that the results would be damaging to Palin?

Should the independent investigator have names taken off his subpoena list by this same committee member?

Should the independent investigator be a long-time friend of the man that was fired?

Will you please answer these questions? I honestly want to know.

Good questions. Additionally:

Issue's not why Monegan was fired, but why trooper wasn't


"So this particular trooper is probably not the poster boy the anti-Palin folks might want to trot out to show her misusing her power as governor. At least, the people I've talked to all seem to shake their heads and say that yeah, if she did exert pressure, she shouldn't have. And then they look up and say, "But man, what about that trooper!" They zip right past her possible actions and land squarely on the trooper. The minute the story reaches the point where he's Tasering his stepson, people start lining up behind Palin. Because most people don't want Mike Wooten to be the trooper responding to their call for help if this is any indication of his ability to make sound or reasonable judgments. And that seems to trump any inappropriate actions on her part as the focal part of the story."


http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/479145.html

 

[transparant]

I couldn't have said it better myself. It's terrifying, don't you think. Absolutely terrifying.

Steve - FYI - your immature, comments make it impossible to take you serious. I hope you realize that.

 

[Alicnwondrln]

My issue is if you keep saying you will do something and then wont it looks bad.
If you keep saying you can PROVE you didnt nothing then whether you think its a witch hunt or not it shouldnt matter. They just want to delay til after the election.

 

[ladyjayhawk]

I couldn't have said it better myself. It's terrifying, don't you think. Absolutely terrifying.

Nope!