This is why I usually shop online.

[Dakota_Lynn]

While I was out shopping with my mom this afternoon, we had a minor car accident. My mom was pulling out of a parking space at a small business (there were only about six parking spaces in the whole lot). This little girl (16ish) pulls in the the parking lot and hits the back of my mothers car while my mom was pulling out (of the lot...she was already out of the space and was ready to pull out of the lot). This moronic kid turned into the parking lot from a busy road and because it was a small lot, her daddy's truck was sticking out in the road. She didn't want her tail end to get hit, had no where to go, so she hit us. Her papa's truck is fine, but my mom's car has a huge dent in the trunk now...I should mention that her car is only three months old. That's not the worst of it.

It turns out that the little miss was meeting some friends in that parking lot. Her pals were already there and were "witnesses" to the whole thing. They claimed that it was all my mom's fault because Ms. innocent was already there in the parking lot when my mom backed up and hit her. This was NOT true, but there were no witnesses other than her friends. Editing to mention that the so called witnesses were hidden behind an SUV. It's hard to describe the situation because it was an unusual lot, but there is no way they could have seen it. They only realized there was a problem when our car didn't leave. They got out and realized at least a minute after the accident that their friend had pulled in and hit us.

Since there were no other witnesses to tell the real story, we were out of luck and left. That brat got away with damaging my mom's car.

What is wrong with people that they would do something so crappy? Who raises kids to be so damned dishonest? Somebody please tell me how people come to have so few morals? Right now, I'm feeling pretty down, not to mention mad. I'm not thinking very pleasant thoughts about that girl.

 

[FreshTressa]

OMG!!! I bet you are BOILING. I totally can't imagine them being so dishonest!

You are a witness too, are you sure you can't do something? I just hate for them to get away with something like that. Your poor mom and her car.

SOME PEOPLE

 

[KathyFP]

Were there any other witnesses??

I can understand accidents. I do not understand dishonesty!

 

[FOJMO]

Originally posted by Dakota_Lynn
This little girl (16ish) pulls in the the parking lot and hits the back of my mothers car while my mom was pulling out.

when my mom backed up and hit her.

OK, first you say that this "little girl" hit your mom's car. Then you say that your mom hit her. Which is it?

I'm sorry, but while I understand that you're upset about what happened, it's called an accident for a reason. No one, even "little girls", sets out to hit anyone.

I can absolutely see the position of this other driver. When she pulled into the lot, SHE had the right of way. She had no where else to go. I, too, wouldn't want to be coming in from a busy road and "sticking out" into that busy road with my tail end!

If your mother was backing out of a space, it was HER responsibility to make sure that it was safe to do so, and proceed cautiously. I understand that this girl probably seemed like she came from nowhere, but the law would say that it was not her fault either.

As upset as you may be, I don't think it's fair to label this girl as "moronic", "little girl", "little miss", "Ms. Innocent", "dishonest" (don't even see where she was being dishonest), "having few morals", and "brat".

Just what do you think was the "real story" (as you put it)?? Seems to me there are always TWO sides to every story.

 

[Bon Bon]

I'm sorry this happened to your Mom. Did you check to see if this small business has a camera in the parking lot that may show what happened? I'd check it out. Good luck.

 

[mickeyfan1]

I am sorry you had this accident, however, no matter what the witnesses say, the person backing out is ALWAYS at fault everywhere I have lived. The same thing happened to my husband at work a couple of monts ago, and because it was on private property, the police won't take a report, but the guy that hit him had a lot of damage to his car. Our van got a very small dent in the bumper, our insurance had to pay for the damage to the guy that hit him.

 

[peg2001]

I am very sorry for you and your mom. It sounds like the whole incident was very upsetting.

Unfortunately, FOJMO has a point. The law sides with the one who had "right of way." In a parking lot, the person driving in the aisle has right of way over a person pulling out of a spot.

In the same manner, when a car rear ends the car ahead of him, he is considered "at fault" even if the car pulled out right in front of him and then slammed on the brakes.

Peggy

 

[Dakota_Lynn]

I should probably leave sarcasm aside and clarify...my mom had already backed out and was at a stop. When I said, "Ms Innocent had already been in the lot when my mom backed out" I was quoting the lie her friends came up with. My mom was already backed out of her spot, stopped, and was shifting to forward when the girl pulled in to the parking lot and hit her. The girl should not have pulled into the lot because she had no where to go. She got in and freaked out and chose to hit my mom's car instead of have her behind hit in traffic. Reasonable enough. If I pulled in a small lot before I could safely get my car in I'd probably opt to hit somebody at five miles an hours in the rear before I'd let myself be hit in the tail at 35mph. But she had her friends lie and claim that my mom backed into her. There are indeed two sides to every story, but facts are facts. The kid wasn't even in the parking lot while my mother was in reverse. She pulled in at the moment that my mom was shifting forward. The girl and her friends overtly lied and claimed that my mom was moving backwards, which was absolutely not the case. The kid herself started to apologize, but then took the lead of her friends and proceeded to pass the blame off to my mom. So yes, brat and moron are accurate descripters. She's not ready for the resonsibility of being behind the wheel of a care.

Remember, the girl rear ended us. Her front end hit our behind. She was moving, we were not. From what I've learned in drivers ed, that means she was at fault. The reason I've referred to her as dishonest is because she is. She knew she was at fault, but then realized that there were no witnesses except for her buddies who were more than willing to lie. Everybody there knew it what was happening. They seemed to totally enjoy the power they had in numbers. So yes, I stand by all the descriptive terms I've applied to her. The situation was rotten.

 

[Dakota_Lynn]

Originally posted by FOJMO
OK, first you say that this "little girl" hit your mom's car. Then you say that your mom hit her. Which is it?

I went back into the OP and tried to clarify. She hit us. When I said that my mom backed up into her, that was what her friends claimed to get her out of the mess she was in. I think I was confusing in my sarcasm. It's not always easy to make the written word sound like it would if it were spoken.

 

[believe]

I would have still done a police report. Kentucky is a no fault state and it is between the insurance companies to decide who is at fault, unless someone is giving a traffic violation.

 

[Dakota_Lynn]

Originally posted by believe
I would have still done a police report. Kentucky is a no fault state and it is between the insurance companies to decide who is at fault, unless someone is giving a traffic violation.

Wow, does that law apply to all accidents? Or just the kind that are hard to determine who is at fault?

Regarding the police report, I wanted to have one filed. But my mom is very passive, and she felt intimidated by all these kids. There were three in the car that hit us and two or three more waiting in the other car. So when they started pointing their fingers at her and implying that she needed to forget it, she did. I took down their plate numbers, though. But I don't think there's really anything that can be done about it now.

 

[my3kids]

Why did you leave without calling the police?? Let them sort it out. The witnesses that argued with you might have felt more compelled by an officer asking them what happened. Someone trained to investigate witnesses' statements would have have known just what questions to ask. What if the girl starts claiming whiplash or something and you left without a report and it is only yours vs. the teenagers version?

I'd be boiling too, but I would have called the police.

 

[believe]

I believe it is for all accidents in Kentucky. I was in a parking lot accident where an individual back into me, I had tried going around her several times as she was trying to find a parking spot and would stop for a bit....then all the sudden she backed into me. The officer would not state who was at fault, the insurance companies debated it.

 

[Dakota_Lynn]

Originally posted by my3kids
What if the girl starts claiming whiplash or something and you left without a report and it is only yours vs. the teenagers version?

That is what I kept trying to tell my mother! I did not want to leave without a police report, but she was intimidated by those kids. She's like that. She's a great person, but she has a hard time when people get confrontational in any way.

 

[caitycaity]

unfortunately where i live (and i would imagine a lot of other places) the police won't file a report for damages under a certain amount of $$$.

and having just dealt with ths kind of situation a few months ago myself, we learned that legally if the person backing out is not moving when they are hit then the other driver CAN be found at fault, or it can be determined as no fault.