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I am caught up!! Thoroughly enjoying all the details and photos I had not seen! What a truly grand adventure! Can't wait for more.
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Well, I think the tour companies like to show only what they feel is the best of Egypt. We go on a few more jaunts on our own but not to sketchy places.By design?
Actually it was rather humid from the river.Not surprised in a desert climate.
It will be a while, it's a long trip.Oh?
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Yay for being caught up! You'll get all behind again on your trip!I am caught up!! Thoroughly enjoying all the details and photos I had not seen! What a truly grand adventure! Can't wait for more.
I bet! We rode in the back of a truck like that once on the Big Island of Hawaii and I remember getting super dustythe jeep tour got us super dusty and dirty
I was thinking that too! Yum yum!Kind of reminds me of a luau in Hawaii where they do a whole pig under the banana leaves. Yuuummmm Kahlua pi-eeeerp move along! Nothing to see here!
This looks tasty as well.We would be dining on chicken and lamb
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We do forget that is still the norm in many places for sure.Later this area would be full of folks kicking back and smoking.
Everything looks yummy and fresh!
Plates looked great, yum!Our plates were so full with chicken, lamb, potato, rice, spinach salad, samosa, vegetables, potato salad, pita bread, and more!
Although boo about the lack of sleep, what a serene experienceAs I opened it up, Jill (who also couldn't sleep), saw that there were stars visible in the sky. We went outside and I tried to take some pictures with the DSLR.
NopeUp, up, and Away…..how many of you can sing the rest of that song lyirc? Or name the group?
oh no!!Our driver was a young Bedouin who obviously did the jeep tours in the daylight hours. The truck was a mini death trap. The back door on the outside of the driver's side didn't even have a door handle, and the door itself didn't open at all, even if you tried it from the inside.
Glad you made it okWe did make it to the destination unscathed
Did you manage to sort it out later? (apologies if I missed you saying so)We watched as they filled the balloons with air. I had brought my big camera along to take some great pictures but as I tried to take the shots every picture had a big black smudge right in the middle of it.
Some Canadian's can be very uppity indeed about being confused for American's, I'd say especially more so since the whole Trump thing...In our basket, we had mostly Americans, two Germans, the Belgian gals, and a couple Canadians who vehemently denied their American nationality when the balloon pilot joked with them about being American.
Wowzas!!
Love all the colours in this one!!This is a photo of us coming over the rock structure in the video above.
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Fancy fancy!!This is one of the original camps in the desert. Those little pods all have hot tubs inside them.
I've never done an air balloon ride, so hadn't thought about the landing, but I guess that makes sense re: options for the basket to come downLanding was actually pretty smooth. He described three different ways it could go, one of which included the basket tipping on it's side. Luckily we just skipped along the ground a few times before coming to a full stop.
This is def in very different condition than the other one!Here's the death trap of a truck in which we traveled to and from the take off/landing sites.
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hehe I did get this reference though!Here's a cat on a hot canvas roof.
Oh I'm so glad he grabbed them, hopefully he was able to put them somewhere more securetiny puppy came running out onto the roadway. Our driver immediately stopped right in the middle of the road, put on his flashers, got out of the car and picked up the puppy from the road and spied one of its siblings on the side of the road. He picked up the other one too.
He saw a lot of the pictues online, and then I've been showing him as well yupSo he's reading along with you as well?
Wow!See that canyon in the middle of this picture? That’s the main “city” of Petra.
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Was it fairly easy to do? English was an option on the machineOur driver took us to an ATM (at our request). We had each ordered $100 (US$155.75 + $5.00 conversion fee) in Jordanian Dinars from our banks at home, but we realized that we needed some more so we each took out an additional $80JD at the ATM. This is the street. I took these pics while Jill was getting her money.
That's very reasonable!Alone the cost for Jordan for three days was $383 per day per person including driver, accommodations, breakfast 3 days, 1 dinner, 2 hour jeep tour, and admission to Petra.
I know this is USD, but still seems reasonable!Egypt portion the entire 15 days works out to $300 per day. As you see as it unfolds the Egypt portion has many more items that are covered in our fare.
Yikes!!!Our guide warned us the day before that Petra involved a 6 hour walk from start to finish.
Getting a bit warm!!Now keep in mind that this day was around 88F or 31C.
ya, that would get annoying fastHowever, the one thing that I think annoyed us both the most was that he kept referring to us as "the Queens." As Jill said, it was kind of cute the first time, but the 100th time it was definitely annoying.
These caves were among some of the places that people called home. People actually lived in the underground caves until 1985 when the site was declared a World Heritage site.
this is very interesting! you didn't go in them at all correct?
Obelisk Tomb is towered by four obelisks and hence it got its name.
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wow a lot of people cancelled!
this reminds me of some of the streets in Edenborough Scotland!The roads were paved with these stones, much of it has been paved over with modern pavement as the original stones have cracked over the years.
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Awww hey guys! did they look to be in ok condition?here are dogs and cats everywhere, and this puppy was so cute.
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The structure, the guards? the camels, just wow!!I thought it was much more impressive once we emerged from the canyon.
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these guys look very content to just hang out!
one tough aspect of travelling for sureJill and I just kept telling the vendors "no". The guide was sympathetic to the sellers and even kept leading us through some of the shops, but we held firm
oh no!!We walked almost to the theater. I was getting super overheated and starting to feel dehydrated.
Did you ever take a look for him?At one point he told us that he actually appears in the movie Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Maybe I'll watch the movie before I get to this point in the TR and see if I see him, or maybe not!
Well that looks just perfect!I decided that the lemon mint slushie that I'd seen other people order sounded good. It totally hit the spot!
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Dorian would get this I bet
I'd probably get this lol I like lamb, but he grew up eating it so loves it, where as I'm just learning to like it
Perfect for you!
Nice, much better indeed!They gave us the room on the floor above, and the tub there sealed perfectly.
It's hard not to get dirty in that situation.I bet! We rode in the back of a truck like that once on the Big Island of Hawaii and I remember getting super dusty
Yeah, no pig here, but it was tastyI was thinking that too! Yum yum!
This looks tasty as well.
It's pretty much not allowed anywhere indoors here in CA. And many places outdoors have also banned it.We do forget that is still the norm in many places for sure.
I really don't encounter much smoking in my day to day life anymore
Everything looks yummy and fresh!
Plates looked great, yum!
Although boo about the lack of sleep, what a serene experience
That's OK, it was before your time. Pkondz got it. He and I are about the same age.Nope![]()
Yeah, it was an interesting experience.oh no!!
Glad you made it ok
As I have to say to a lot of folks....patience grasshopper.....Did you manage to sort it out later? (apologies if I missed you saying so)
I think I remember him telling me that story.Some Canadian's can be very uppity indeed about being confused for American's, I'd say especially more so since the whole Trump thing...
D tells a story about meeting American's with a very strong southern accent one his travels in Europe who had the Canadian flag on their backpack
Yeah, they never really know exactly how the landing is going to go!I've never done an air balloon ride, so hadn't thought about the landing, but I guess that makes sense re: options for the basket to come down
This is def in very different condition than the other one!
hehe I did get this reference though!
There wasn't really that many place he could put them, but he did put them farther back from the road.Oh I'm so glad he grabbed them, hopefully he was able to put them somewhere more secure
He saw a lot of the pictues online, and then I've been showing him as well yup
This cracks me up. When I first saw this new person with the limited posts and comments, I wondered if it was a spam.Subbing in!
Reminds me of something I forgot to ask from a previous post. When you were in the air in the balloon, did you notice how sound carried so well from below? That was something I really was surprised at when I went up in a balloon.Around 3AM I woke up again, I could hear barking out the window. Now we were on the 14th floor so that must have been some barking to hear it up that high.
I decided that the best remedy for insomnia for me is a nice hot bath.
Well, shoot! Totally not okay. I've stayed at a hotel and deliberately picked a room with a nice tub... only to have no hot water. I got a partial refund at least, but wasn't happy.I turned it to what I thought should have been hot water, and it was just tepid. I tried other settings, and there was nowhere that I could seem to find nice hot water. I was sad.
Fresh OJ?The first thing you came to was the Orange Juice dispenser. They did a good job of keeping it filled.
Thanks for that. I don't have a juicer but have been considering it. I wouldn't have known to do that.I could tell he didn’t take the outside off the carrots before juicing them. The juice had a “woody” taste
Slacker!As you can see he is not at the waffle station when I took this picture.
I kinda like that. I'm not normally a beans person, but I'd like to see (and maybe try, if it looked appealing) something new.other times there were middle eastern beans that I didn’t recognize at all.
This would attract me too. Not sure if I'd try anything... but I'd definitely check it out.There was another are with lots of stuff that I didn't even know what it was for. I think that area was aimed at the Asian palates
We were more like, “pull up your pants, and stay off my lawn” than wanting to make new friends and embrace your neighbor.
That looks really good.I got myself a bowl of the Chicken shawarma with some rice. That hit the spot.
I'd heard the term... but looked it up anyway. Interesting that it has different connotations.Then we went to the bank and got smaller monies for baksheesh.
How excited were you??We were off to see the pyramids of Giza.
Huh! Interesting custom.The first thing he told us when we passed a picture of the "the Pharoah", as he called the President, you can't look at him for more than three seconds or it is bad luck.
I thought the same thing.It was kind of like what you read about in the history books with Authoritarian leaders.
While driving on the highway, Achmed pointed out these buildings that obviously had parts of them removed. He told us that was to make room for widening the road. When I asked what happened to the people who lived there, he kicked his foot up like a boot in the pants.
by following here, you’re getting the whole story and not just the Cliff Notes.
Very surprised about the fog. I just think of Egypt as very dry.It was very overcast that day. In So Cal we call it the Marine Layer. I think there they just call it fog. Whatever it was, it was totally obscuring the view of the great Pyramid.
You done good!I had to work hard to get these donkey shots. Our driver was going very fast (not unsafe, but fast enough that by the time I saw the donkey cart, it was out of picture range.)
So different from what we see in this part of the world.Sheep and goat herders (even in the middle of busy streets) were not uncommon.
Phew! When I first started reading that sentence, I thought "Here we go. Scam coming up." Glad it wasn't.For some reason our guide’s credit card wasn’t working, so Jill ended up putting most of our entrance fees on her card, and he repaid her in cash.
I like it. Nice shot. And cute pup.I took some shots of the stray dogs that were everywhere. This was my winning dog photo of the trip.
So gross. It's bad enough that they stink, but then you have to litter?See the cigarette butt in the bottom of the picture? Those snuck into my pictures more often than I would have liked.
I could have photoshopped it out, but I’m here to be real. Otherwise I wouldn’t have shared the horrific potty story from the day of the jeep tour!![]()
Sure. Gotta mark your territory. Kinda like scribbling "Alison was here" on a wall.And here's where the precedent begins. I'm pretty sure that I needed to pee at nearly every attraction we visited.
Cool!We actually got to go inside some real tombs and a real Pyramid.
I would wait for people to leave the room so I could get pictures without people in them.
Perhaps this is dancing?
That's interesting too. I like that bit of info. Gives you an insight into the ancient belief system.Most tombs had a door like this on the entrance, there was small slit in the center which was supposedly where the spirit can escape from the tomb.
Not at all surprised. Millenia of grave robbing...Most of the doors like this are damaged and only a part of them remain, if any.
These folks are definitely dancing. At least I think they are.
Of course you were.Thanks to Jill for actually taking a picture above ground. I was too busy taking pictures of all the stray dogs.
And no handrails! Were you nervous? Worried?This is the shaft that we climbed down to get to the tomb. It was super steep.
Odd that they're not allowed. I wonder why?Now guides are not allowed into certain tombs, so our guide gave a quick once over of what to be looking for.
Thanks for that. A marked difference!That’s why I took this picture with the DSLR camera on the “Manual” setting, so I could control the amount of light in the picture. This is more of what we actually saw.
Where was the (little bit of) lighting coming from? Was it just ambient from the entrance?Another picture of a different room in the tomb, taken on Manual, just to show how dark it really is inside there.
At first I thought you meant:Saqqara is also the location of the pyramid of Djoser
Makes sense.Well, I think the tour companies like to show only what they feel is the best of Egypt. We go on a few more jaunts on our own but not to sketchy places.
Of course (see above). I didn't think of the river at all, just the desert.Actually it was rather humid from the river.
I ain't going nowhere.It will be a while, it's a long trip.![]()
Today I went with a waffle. I actually asked someone about whether or not they were making them and they called a guy over there. I got a cinnamon roll, a chocolate croissant, some potatoes and that chocolate cake. They had these chocolate and vanilla coffee cakes that I totally loved. I ate them every day. There’s a little fruit salad there as well.
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The Egyptian president is a bit of a narcissist and has his name and picture on EVERYTHING! Achmed was not a fan to say the least.The first thing he told us when we passed a picture of the "the Pharoah", as he called the President, you can't look at him for more than three seconds or it is bad luck. As we drove around for the next week and a half, we realized he did have a point. The guy's picture was almost everywhere. He had billboards, bills posted on overpasses, he was even on a few digital billboards, although those were not nearly as prevalent as in So Cal. It was kind of like what you read about in the history books with Authoritarian leaders.
Yes, I think in Jordan English and Arabic were the options. In Egypt, I think there were many language options.Was it fairly easy to do? English was an option on the machine
We thought the trip was very reasonable!That's very reasonable!
I know this is USD, but still seems reasonable!
ya, that would get annoying fast
I think people were supposed to stay on the path. There were probably folks who would have come after you if you tried to go inside them. I didn't even think about it.this is very interesting! you didn't go in them at all correct?
That's the impression I got. Mostly Americans. They don't know their geography and think the Middle East is all one place. Kind of like the people who think Disneyland is in LA.wow a lot of people cancelled!
I want to go there!this reminds me of some of the streets in Edenborough Scotland!
I didn't get too close to many of them. I was afraid of fleas and other pests. Some looked better than others. Same for the cats.Awww hey guys! did they look to be in ok condition?
That's actually just a facade, there's really nothing behind it. Yes the camels appear very content.The structure, the guards? the camels, just wow!!
these guys look very content to just hang out!
It's definitely tiring.one tough aspect of travelling for sure
I have not had the opportunity yet.Did you ever take a look for him?
It was! So tasty!Well that looks just perfect!
Yeah, I was on a lamb kick those first few days.Dorian would get this I bet
I'd probably get this lol I like lamb, but he grew up eating it so loves it, where as I'm just learning to like it
I'm still using them!Perfect for you!
Definitely!Nice, much better indeed!
I decided that the problem with posting is me and potentially the number of external links that are associated with my username. So I created a new user name, and took a spin around the games board, and my own TRs. I'm not sure if my alter ego can post pictures yet. But we will see the next time this user name has a problem!This cracks me up. When I first saw this new person with the limited posts and comments, I wondered if it was a spam.![]()
Honestly I don't know. It was so quiet in Wadi Rum and there was no sound from below. I don't think that I heard anything on the later flight. I was so busy paying attention to other things going on.Reminds me of something I forgot to ask from a previous post. When you were in the air in the balloon, did you notice how sound carried so well from below? That was something I really was surprised at when I went up in a balloon.
I've done that as well, but had hot water. I think this was the first time I wasn't able to get hot water at a hotel.Well, shoot! Totally not okay. I've stayed at a hotel and deliberately picked a room with a nice tub... only to have no hot water. I got a partial refund at least, but wasn't happy.
Well I saw them refill the container and it came from an industrial sized prepackaged plastic container. However, it was so tasty that I think they were getting it from a very fresh source. I like OJ, but this was especially tasty OJ. I got a glass every day as we walked in even before we had selected a table.Fresh OJ?
I always peel my carrots at home (though I know most of the nutrients are in the outside) because I don't like that taste. The only time I don't peel them is when I put them in the base of the pan when cooking a turkey.Thanks for that. I don't have a juicer but have been considering it. I wouldn't have known to do that.
Whoever had that job certainly was! I rarely saw anyone at the waffle maker. I guess you will see by how many days I have a waffle for breakfast. Also, the waffles at the Ramses Hilton were not nearly as good as some of the other waffles I had later in the trip. I realized at the Ramses how much I like the American versions of "malted" waffles. The waffles at the Ramses were super sweet, and I like a little more savory in my waffle.Slacker!
I do venture to the beans for protein one day.....I kinda like that. I'm not normally a beans person, but I'd like to see (and maybe try, if it looked appealing) something new.
I really didn't even know what some of the little bowls had in them, much less what I would put them on.This would attract me too. Not sure if I'd try anything... but I'd definitely check it out.
Yeah, rarely do I want to just strike up a conversation with a random person. And here, a lot were speaking languages that I didn't recognize.
I'm that way too. I'm perfectly happy eating alone with a good book.
It was very tasty!That looks really good.
I didn't know that either. I thought it was just money you gave for services.I'd heard the term... but looked it up anyway. Interesting that it has different connotations.
I never knew it could be used to mean a charitable donation.
I'm not sure if I was excited or what. Everything was so new and unique. I remember while we were driving on a 4-5 lane highway, there was a pick up truck with a camper shell. There must have been a dozen guys in the back. I don't know if the back flap of the pick up bed was down or it was just missing. There was one guy sitting with his legs hanging off the back of the truck, another guy was standing up, and another guy was also precariously perched. This was going 50-60mph.How excited were you??![]()
I'm not sure it was a custom. He was an interesting guy, very much a "for the people" kind of guy who did not like big business or "the man".Huh! Interesting custom.
Yes, a lot of that going on around there. I have more pictures later that show more of that sort of power display.I thought the same thing.
There's definitely two sorts of climates. The Nile is a HUGE river, and there's a reason that the people have lived near the river for all these thousands of years. It's very humid near the river, and very dry when you get away from there.Very surprised about the fog. I just think of Egypt as very dry.
Thanks!You done good!
Yes, and also I'm watching Su-Lynn's posts on Instagram from Japan, and that is so different from what I was seeing in Egypt. And so different from here as well.So different from what we see in this part of the world.
No, I will give a spoiler alert. While we may have had a few "hiccups" in the trip, I highly recommend this tour company. Everything was top notch. You can't necessarily control all the circumstances, but they did the best that they could for everything that we needed.Phew! When I first started reading that sentence, I thought "Here we go. Scam coming up." Glad it wasn't.
I like it. Nice shot. And cute pup.![]()
I haven't even gotten started on the litter....So gross. It's bad enough that they stink, but then you have to litter?
Except that then I flushed my mark away.....Sure. Gotta mark your territory. Kinda like scribbling "Alison was here" on a wall.
If I could tell you all the stuff that Achmed told us about their belief system and everything. By the end of the trip, my brain was so full with random information. We got so much education in such a short time, there's no way we could remember it all!That's interesting too. I like that bit of info. Gives you an insight into the ancient belief system.
Not to mention winds, and other weather phenomena....Not at all surprised. Millenia of grave robbing...
I'm sorry but a lot of these pop references are lost on me...should I recognize these people?
I don't think I had the opportunity to be nervous or worried. As we approached the pyramid tomb, there was a grubby old man with only half his teeth trying to sell us brochures for like $5US. While he was sticking the pamphlets in our faces, Achmed was trying to tell us about the stars on the ceiling and a few other things to look at. He was telling us there were two rooms in the tomb, the one on the right had the chamber that held the sarcophagus, the one on the left contained items that the decedent would need in the afterlife.And no handrails! Were you nervous? Worried?
I think because there are guides that are already in the tombs, but you have to give them baksheesh. Our guide would be getting a tip at the end of the week, and there is a very strict thing for guides and their conduct. In the books I'm listening to, even over 100 years ago, being a guide was an established profession.Odd that they're not allowed. I wonder why?
Yes! That's one thing that I'm so glad I have a DSLR and know how to use it. So many situations when the cell phone camera (or automatic mode on the DSLR) doesn't even give you accurate picture of what a place really looks like because the cell phone adapts for the lack of light.Thanks for that. A marked difference!
I'm not sure which little bit of light you're referring to. There were lights down in the tomb otherwise people would have been falling all over the place. If you're meaning that second room, that's a good question? I'm not sure where the light would have been coming from. I was just so in awe of being in the tomb, I was snapping pictures like crazy.Where was the (little bit of) lighting coming from? Was it just ambient from the entrance?
OK this reference I understand!At first I thought you meant:
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But that's Gozer... Not at all the same.
Seriously, though... That pyramid makes me think Incan, rather than Egyptian. Amazing that two such far flung civilizations could develop such similar architecture.
Of course (see above). I didn't think of the river at all, just the desert.
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Yes you did! I kept wondering how you could keep going without protein!had the carb special every day with a little fruit. I missed pork bacon and sausage!
Yes, you saw his face everywhere!The Egyptian president is a bit of a narcissist and has his name and picture on EVERYTHING! Achmed was not a fan to say the least.
I didn't notice it so bad at Saqqara, but yes in Luxor and Aswan, it was absolutely stifling.BTW, the inside of the tombs are absolutely stifling although Saqqara wasn't nearly as bad as future locations. The Cairo area was also about 10-15 degrees cooler than when we get further south in Luxor and Aswan.
Well you were practicedWe were only allowed one carry-on bag, so I had to get my camera, meds, and technology all into the one carry-on, but I did it!
Wow smoking sections- crazy! haven't encountered that for a whileWe chose a table set back in the corner, because one annoying thing about this part of the world is that they still have smoking sections.
Yowzas! That would be over $55 for me!With the exchange rate this drink came out to almost $40!
This looks soo good!Jill got the Beef Agnolotti. She loved it!
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As does this! Yum!I got the Lasagne, also loved it!
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It's 8:26am and I could go for this right now as my second coffee of the day
The desserts were both lovely looking and with lots too them!
Sounds fantastic!We went up to our room and I took advantage of the nice tub to try out my new Dead Sea Bath salts. They were heavenly, after exiting the bath and laying in bed, I could feel my muscles tingling from the salts in them
I think I chatted with you at some strange times!I think I woke up in the middle of the night, played some games, checked facebook and stuff,
Yeehaww cowgirl! Yum!I had an Americano with an extra shot of espresso, and a then later a latte, so I was pretty amped.
Whoops! I haven't drank much green tea to be honest, but I know a lot of people love itUnfortunately, they missed the green part of her order and she ended up with a smaller iced black tea. She still said it hit the spot.
Love it when that happens!We had the middle and the window seat, and no one took the third seat so she moved over just before take off.
Maybe you told me this, that it was such a great price, but I didn't catch it, but it was such a handy little purse! I may need one!I'd used this purse in both Denver and Kamloops and it was great for lightweight touring. It was indispensable in Egypt. I could wear it through the airport to keep my passport handy. It held enough credit cards, room keys, a tiny baggie of Ibuprofen, cash, and even a wad of toilet paper, for desperate times. It came in over 20 different colors. I might order another one for traveling in the US where I'm not trying to be so low key. But for a place where I want to go unnoticed this was the perfect choice.
Our plane did not take a direct route to Cairo. It flew South and then West to avoid the fighting.
Thanks for adding the pic, smart airline
That reminds me I need to get sorted in the Sim dept, but I do an eSimJill decided that she wanted an Egyptian Sim card. There was a cellular provider kiosk in the baggage claim area, so we picked one up for around $12US. It came with a ton of data, and it was a good thing she invested in that.
there's one at the Vancouver airport I love but it's super pricey without a corporate discount and my new company doesn't have that discount, boo!We waited outside for a bit. I noticed that across from where we were waiting that there was a hotel attached to the airport and realized that it was the hotel we would be staying at the night before our flight home. How convenient, it was attached to the hotel via a walkway!
Sounds like he came to make sure you guys were sorted out, dashing fellow sounds like!He was very handsome with jet black hair, except he had just a hint of grey at his temples giving him a debonair appearance. His white Oxford shirt was perfectly pressed and his shoes were equally expensive to match his perfectly quaffed look.
Oh boy, glad you got around safe!While there are lines on the roads indicating the lanes, no one actually pays attention to them. It's basically whoever has the most cahones that moves forward in the intersection. There are no stoplights, right of way is generally determined by who takes it, unless an officer steps in to direct the flow of traffic. However most intersections are treated as whoever honks the most and edges their car into the spot, goes first. I'm surprised there aren't 10 accidents per second.
what a pretty coin!Basically worthless.
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