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[wdwmom2]

Anyone else think Lily looks a lot like Maggie?

As far as the governor changing his stripes - I don't think that for a second. I think we'll see the old governor surface soon. The episode was good but I missed what was going on in the prison. Reminded me of last season when we would have woodbury episodes and prison episodes. 2 hours would fix that! One for each. Never can get enough.

I do. I even think she sort of sounds like her.

 

[elgerber]

I also that she looked and sounded a bit like Maggie.

What do you think was the significance of the episode title, Live Bait??

I'm also guessing, as someone else said, that his new family is not going to live very long, causing him to snap back to his old self.

 

[JessicaR]

I think they were all live bait after the truck broke down and they had to confront walkers. Especially when he fell in the trap. Also now that Tara is limping and they have no vehicle - they are bait more than ever. I agree and also think his new family will meet their demise sending him back to his old self. When he crossed his heart and hoped to die it was over for them.

 

[nemofans]

I also missed Rick's group & am not sympathizing w/the Gov at all. I don't think he'll care about the women much either. It's the girl (Megan) that will change him, maybe for the good & when she dies, then for the bad. Wasn't the guy's name Martinez from his group that found him at the end of the epi? Will he tell the women who the Gov really is?

 

[MouseMomx2]

I think they were all live bait after the truck broke down and they had to confront walkers. Especially when he fell in the trap. Also now that Tara is limping and they have no vehicle - they are bait more than ever. I agree and also think his new family will meet their demise sending him back to his old self. When he crossed his heart and hoped to die it was over for them.

I also think his new family will die...but I will think that at least one of them dies because the Governor chooses to save himself instead of save her.

 

[Colleen27]

I personally enjoyed the Governor episode. It's plain boring to have a villain who is all-evil. This gave a little humanity to him, which was much needed. In fact, when he was holding onto Meghan at the end, I actually started to like him a little. I don't think he can ever redeem himself, but it shows his complexity and that he's not all "mwahahahaa I kill people and I love it!"

And that's coming to be a theme of the season. Michonne putting down roots, Carol killing the sick members of the group, the Governor rediscovering his humanity... The ZA world forces people to do things that they thought they never would/could, even that they thought impossible, and no one can feel safe even in their own self-perception/identity.

 

[anniemae]

I agree with everyone that this new family is toast!

It seems the Gov has stumbled upon Ramirez and a whole new group of people. I thought in the scenes for next week Ramirez said to Gov, "I'm in charge here." So it seems the Gov will be a minion of sorts and have to be the one following orders. Did anyone else catch that? I wonder how on earth he winds back up at the prison.

 

[WDWBarb]

I was not a fan of last night's episode. When I realized at the half hour mark that it was going to be an all Governor ep, I was pretty much ready to go to bed. Everyone at work was grumbling about it this morning. DH stopped watching just a few minutes in.

No amount of back story is going to make me feel like it's even remotely possible that he could redeem himself.

But I agree that his "family" is being set up to be toast.

And next week is another Governor episode? Urgh. I want to go back to the prison. I totally need to know how Daryl is going to handle the news about Carol.

 

[wiigirl]

I agree with everyone that this new family is toast!

It seems the Gov has stumbled upon Ramirez and a whole new group of people. I thought in the scenes for next week Ramirez said to Gov, "I'm in charge here." So it seems the Gov will be a minion of sorts and have to be the one following orders. Did anyone else catch that? I wonder how on earth he winds back up at the prison.

Agreed!

 

[anniemae]

I also missed Ricks group so much! I wanted to know about Daryl and Carol, How Herschel is doing, How Glen is doing etc. It does look like next week will be all Gov again.

 

[JenM]

I really enjoyed it as well, and was suprised how easy it was to believe he has some humanity left. But yeah, sex, with two people right there? Come on! Yuck.
I don't think he has problems getting dates, heck, that's the 3rd woman he's slept with since we met him isn't it?

Although..Lori and Rick got busy in a tent (and possibly conceived little Judith) with Carl asleep right next to them in Season 1. Apparently kids sleep really well in the apocalypse.

I liked last night's episode too. But I don't trust him at all. I think he's sincere in wanting to protect the girl, but he's a pretty sick person. Can't see him coming back from that.

 

[LittleMissMagic]

I did feel cheated out of the Rick and Daryl drama, but I thought it was interesting to see what the Governor had been up to. I think he was on the route to recovery, but seeing Martinez at the top of the pit made me think he was about to head back down the path to psycho world.

 

[elgerber]

Although..Lori and Rick got busy in a tent (and possibly conceived little Judith) with Carl asleep right next to them in Season 1. Apparently kids sleep really well in the apocalypse. I liked last night's episode too. But I don't trust him at all. I think he's sincere in wanting to protect the girl, but he's a pretty sick person. Can't see him coming back from that.

Yeah but at least Carl was across the tent on solid ground and not literally right next to them in a rocking truck LOL.

 

[Jennasis]

I'm confused. Anyone else read the Walking Dead "Rise of the Governor" book? Wasn't Lilly and company the folks Brian/The Gov and his brother and neice shacked up with for a while before the eventually got to Woodbury???

Checked the synopsis...it so looks like it was! Except in the book Lilly was April. What gives?? Kirkman wrote the book. Why couldn't he keep the story lines the same?? And in the book Brian's last name was BLAKE, not Heriot.

 

[Colleen27]

I'm confused. Anyone else read the Walking Dead "Rise of the Governor" book? Wasn't Lilly and company the folks Brian/The Gov and his brother and neice shacked up with for a while before the eventually got to Woodbury???

Checked the synopsis...it so looks like it was! Except in the book Lilly was April. What gives?? Kirkman wrote the book. Why couldn't he keep the story lines the same?? And in the book Brian's last name was BLAKE, not Heriot.

The name Brian Heriot was just something that he pulled off of that memorial/message wall painted on the barn... He doesn't seem interested in going back to being himself, not even his pre-Governor self, just yet.

The show has departed so completely from the books and comics that it is hard to guess which storylines might remain the same. I certainly did see the similarities between this week's episode and that group from Rise of the Governor, but who knows if it'll run in the same general direction or not. And I love that. Most film/television adaptations run close enough to the books for even minor differences to stand out and rub readers the wrong way, but by letting the show become a story of its own in so many ways Kirkman has short circuited a lot of the nit-picky comparisons (and ensuing nerdrage) that come of trying to adapt something directly/faithfully.

 

[anniemae]

They are purposely not following the book. There are similarities and characters are taken from the book, but it definitely does not follow the books/comics. From the beginning, they never intended to follow the books/comics.

 

[Jennasis]

The name Brian Heriot was just something that he pulled off of that memorial/message wall painted on the barn... He doesn't seem interested in going back to being himself, not even his pre-Governor self, just yet.

The show has departed so completely from the books and comics that it is hard to guess which storylines might remain the same. I certainly did see the similarities between this week's episode and that group from Rise of the Governor, but who knows if it'll run in the same general direction or not. And I love that. Most film/television adaptations run close enough to the books for even minor differences to stand out and rub readers the wrong way, but by letting the show become a story of its own in so many ways Kirkman has short circuited a lot of the nit-picky comparisons (and ensuing nerdrage) that come of trying to adapt something directly/faithfully.

Similarities? hehe. It was the same group. I thought for sure they were going to do a flashback episode about how he became the Governor....like the novel. I was so confused for most of the episode. Luckily, after reading the novel I've come to the conclusion that Kirkman is a lackluster author so I will not be reading any of his other stuff. This way I can just enjoy the series on its own.

 

[wdhinn89]

I may be wrong but based on the previews it looked like Martinez was part of a small group and they were going to rob a larger groups food. We also see the governor and family driving in a car which makes me believe that the governor wanted no part of Martinez and his group of thieves. Again, I may have interpreted the coming attractions wrong.

I did enjoy the episode. It was nice to see what the governor was up to all this time but I am frustrated not to learn how Daryl is going to handle Carol's banishment.

 

[LittleMissMagic]

Checked the synopsis...it so looks like it was! Except in the book Lilly was April. What gives?? Kirkman wrote the book. Why couldn't he keep the story lines the same?? And in the book Brian's last name was BLAKE, not Heriot.

That's because in the novel, Brian was Philip Blake's brother. I thought the name Brian, in addition to being pulled off the barn, was kind of tribute to the novel when Brian (aka the Governor) claims to be Philip after his brother died.

He didn't want the storylines to be the same. This is another creative outlet for him. He's not telling the same story as he was in the book, and he never intended to.

 

[lovin'fl]

In the book Penny was Phillip's daughter and Brian's niece and when Phillip dies Brian takes his name as he becomes the Governor. I too thought the last epi was a 'how he became the Governor' epi and this little girl was his Penny walker...except the eye-patch made it current and not past. In the book he sends his people to the prison to attack and when they come running out he tries to get them to go back (like in the show, last season, but in the show this is where he slaughters all his people) and then, in the book, they turn on him and kill him and throw him to the walkers. So, I am guessing his demise is coming...maybe. I also thought he was talking to Carol in the beginning when he's answering questions on what had happened to him. It sounded like Carol's voice. I guess it was the new sex partner's voice...what's her name?

I suspect his 'new family' won't be around for long...or maybe the one girl (Lilly?) will turn all Governor-ish after he gets killed. She seems a little 'on the edge' anyway. She was talking about looking for love (I think she's a lesbian, no?)...right...did I catch that right? Maybe they have a love interest for her or maybe that was just to show how she's naive to the ZA as she's been holed up in that apartment.