The View - Rosie VS Barbara: Update

[CanadianGuy]

I can't find the original thread where we were talking about this.

A while back this came up on the gay board and my comment was the rumors I was hearing from my contacts inside ABC (I used to work at NBC) .. was that the idea of ditching Barbara and keeping Rosie was quietly being floated around the halls of the alphabet network.

Well.. (hee hee) I saw at the grocery store this week, that on the COVER of the highly-trusted and reliable "National Examiner" .. that exact story. Something about "Rosie's Revenge : Barbara OUT at the View"

Citing (as I did in my original post) the ratings jump and re-invigoration of the show after Rosie's arrival, the story says ABC is thinking that Barbara's time is up at the talk show.

I wonder if they used my post as a source.

Hee hee hee...

If only it were to turn out to be true.

Knox

 

[Boston5602]

1-I work for a use to be major city newspaper. ( true )

2- From my sources at that National Tabloid ( not true ) I was told YEs they did use your post for their story.

3- You heard it here first from Canadianguy ( true )

4- I don't watch The View too often , although EVERY time I've watched it Ms. Walters was never on it ( true )

5- Now if he could only post about me winning a night in the castle <G> !

 

[Kevin&Randall]

As the executive producer, Barbara owns a huge piece of The View. Imagine the check ABC would have to write to buy Barbara out the The View. Ahhh, the Disney Cruises, the DVC Points, the Adventures by Disney.... but I digress.

I never watched The View until Rosie joined. And I love, Love, LOVE the hot topics portion. Some of the Iraq War rhetoric is getting old, but the banter is awesome.

Barbara, if you are reading (yeah, right, like that is going to happen! ) keep the View. Keep Rosie. Keep on, keeping on.

Randall

 

[CanadianGuy]

BarWall Productions does indeed produce the view.. and probably owns 50% of it. That said.. her company could continue to own 50% of it.. just without her as a host or executive producer.

Hmm.. the mind reels.

Knox

 

[Viki]

I've watched the show from the beginning - when I get a chance and only the hot topics segments, which they've considerably expanded over the years - and I loved Rosie - up until recently. And now I'm thinking she's gone round the bend. I heard her make comments last week about fire never before in history melting steel (so, we are supposed to believe that something fishy happened with the collapse twin towers, possibly something that is OUR fault) that sent chills up my spine and had me muttering crazy lady.

Incidentally, I've never been impressed by her grasp of Christianity (or serious lack thereof), but I can hardly blame her for that when the vast majority of Christians get it so wrong.

I still love a passionate conversation, but I think she's lost perspective.

 

[Viki]

Oh and let me add - when comedians get as serious as she's getting - see Lenny Bruce - they stop being funny.

 

[OrlandoMike]

Anyone catch todays show? (Monday)

Go Cyndi Go!

http://www.cyndilauper.com/uniquecirx/home.php?Date=20070312

 

[Viki]

Anyone catch todays show? (Monday)

Go Cyndi Go!

http://www.cyndilauper.com/uniquecirx/home.php?Date=20070312

I caught it when it originally aired - today was a rerun

 

[DisInsider]

I used to really like Rosie, especially when she had her own show. I think she has gone way overboard, especially with her left-wing, continual bashing of the President, his administration and the war in Iraq. OK, Rosie, we get it. You hate Bush. (George W. that is). But your constant barrage of anti-Bush, anti-war, crap is not funny, and nobody takes you serious either.

Rosie needs to lighten up and realize as another poster put it, that once comedians try to become serious, they cease being funny. Also see Bill Maher, Al Franken, and others. An occasional joke is fine, but making it your mission to bloviate as if you actually know what you are talking about is not something you need to be doing on national tv. That's what these boards are for.

 

[lisaviolet]

I've watched the show from the beginning - when I get a chance and only the hot topics segments, which they've considerably expanded over the years - and I loved Rosie - up until recently. And now I'm thinking she's gone round the bend. I heard her make comments last week about fire never before in history melting steel (so, we are supposed to believe that something fishy happened with the collapse twin towers, possibly something that is OUR fault) that sent chills up my spine and had me muttering crazy lady.

Incidentally, I've never been impressed by her grasp of Christianity (or serious lack thereof), but I can hardly blame her for that when the vast majority of Christians get it so wrong.

I still love a passionate conversation, but I think she's lost perspective.

I too was very uncomfortable with her comments about "fire never melting steel" and questioned her perspective on the issue; however, I just want to point out that she wasn't talking about the two towers where the planes hit at all but a smaller building that collapsed at that location (WTC #7 ?). And I didn't feel like she was accusing anyone specifically but just that she had many questions.

Besides this conversation, which I thought "whoa", I have been enjoying the change. I too have watched since its inception and honestly thought I would miss Meredith and maybe even Star. But nope. (Love Lisa Ling. Anyone who leaves what others see as a "dream job" because it doesn't fulfill her ....people don't do that enough. Plus, she risks her life in her new job to get stories out. Respect her so much.)

As for the Christianity she stated the other day that she is now taking some "bible lessons". I'm laughing. Maybe you were sending her vibes.

 

[Viki]

I too was very uncomfortable with her comments about "fire never melting steel" and questioned her perspective on the issue; however, I just want to point out that she wasn't talking about the two towers where the planes hit at all but a smaller building that collapsed at that location (WTC #7 ?). And I didn't feel like she was accusing anyone specifically but just that she had many questions.

Besides this conversation, which I thought "whoa", I have been enjoying the change. I too have watched since its inception and honestly thought I would miss Meredith and maybe even Star. But nope. (Love Lisa Ling. Anyone who leaves what others see as a "dream job" because it doesn't fulfill her ....people don't do that enough. Plus, she risks her life in her new job to get stories out. Respect her so much.)

As for the Christianity she stated the other day that she is now taking some "bible lessons". I'm laughing. Maybe you were sending her vibes.

LOL! Maybe ... but unless she's taking bible lessons from ME I still don't trust 'em!!!

Yeah, I know what "tower" she's talking about and as engineers in a new book debunking the 2001 Conspiracy Theories recently said, it would have taken 75 men working full time for 2 months to lay enough explosives to take down the building - and this with no one noticing!

 

[lisaviolet]

LOL! Maybe ... but unless she's taking bible lessons from ME I still don't trust 'em!!!

Yeah, I know what "tower" she's talking about and as engineers in a new book debunking the 2001 Conspiracy Theories recently said, it would have taken 75 men working full time for 2 months to lay enough explosives to take down the building - and this with no one noticing!

I know. The minute the words came out of her mouth I thought, "what the @#$@!!!". How the heck does she think it was possible to be preplanned. And why? Too far. I wrote, about not being the twin towers, because so many of her words get twisted (on other posts not this one). And although I think her theory, and others, are bizarre talking (if she had been) about the twin towers seems more disrespectful to me in this regard. There are a whole bunch of people who catch her words on other programs, not "The View". And I can tell by their thoughts that her words, even her bizarre thoughts, are sometimes taken out of context. Disagreeing with her is one thing. Some make her responsible for words that didn't even come out of her mouth. I don't really understand. Disagree. Don't like her. Fine. That's life. But the personal attacks, and nastiness, is unreal. Shocks me.

I must be out of it. I didn't even realize that there were major conspiracy theories surrounding this other "tower". Or much on the other two, besides a few comments, for that matter. It must be really upsetting to all those family members who lost loved ones.

 

[Viki]

I know. The minute the words came out of her mouth I thought, "what the @#$@!!!". How the heck does she think it was possible to be preplanned. And why? Too far. I wrote, about not being the twin towers, because so many of her words get twisted (on other posts not this one). And although I think her theory, and others, are bizarre talking (if she had been) about the twin towers seems more disrespectful to me in this regard. There are a whole bunch of people who catch her words on other programs, not "The View". And I can tell by their thoughts that her words, even her bizarre thoughts, are sometimes taken out of context. Disagreeing with her is one thing. Some make her responsible for words that didn't even come out of her mouth. I don't really understand. Disagree. Don't like her. Fine. That's life. But the personal attacks, and nastiness, is unreal. Shocks me.

I must be out of it. I didn't even realize that there were major conspiracy theories surrounding this other "tower". Or much on the other two, besides a few comments, for that matter. It must be really upsetting to all those family members who lost loved ones.

Yeah, me either, but apparently so!

I guess that's where Rosie's ideas about this did me some good, because following them I checked out her website and then listened attentively to two authors, from Popular Mechanic magazine with no political ax to grind, who have just written a book about the 9/11 Conspiracy Folk, taking on all of their arguments one by one. I also checked out the thread on the community board dealing with Rosie and these issues and that was really scary, all the way around!!!

 

[my4kids]

I've watched the show from the beginning - when I get a chance and only the hot topics segments, which they've considerably expanded over the years - and I loved Rosie - up until recently. And now I'm thinking she's gone round the bend. I heard her make comments last week about fire never before in history melting steel (so, we are supposed to believe that something fishy happened with the collapse twin towers, possibly something that is OUR fault) that sent chills up my spine and had me muttering crazy lady.

Incidentally, I've never been impressed by her grasp of Christianity (or serious lack thereof), but I can hardly blame her for that when the vast majority of Christians get it so wrong.

I still love a passionate conversation, but I think she's lost perspective.

Totally agree. i will confess, I have posted before that I can't stand Rosie - so I won't pretend I do. But I used to like her before she stopped being humble and started thinking she knows everything and knows better than everybody. I loved her old show, it was a hoot, until the very end when she got full of herself and stopped being funny. Anyway - I still like good conversation, and will occasionally watch the View, but I get very disturbed when she (and Joy) both proclaim that they were raised Catholic, and use that like that makes them an authority on religion. To here them both talk, I don't mean to be mean, but their parents did an awlful job of teaching them religion, and just cause you were born to Catholic parents who have you baptized Catholic, that doesn't make you an authority (or a spokesperson) for anything. Joy stated the other day that Christians don't really believe the stories in the Bible, that they are "metaphorical" (and used the ole, "I know I was raised Catholic" thing) and she was agast when a couple others (including Barbara of all people) told her "uh , no, Christians really believe there was a Noah and 2 of every animal, and the hard to grasp things, they go on faith" She acted like Christians must be idiots. Now I know I am not quoting this as it was stated, but that was the jist of the conversation. I was sitting jaw dropped that someone who proclaims to be raised Catholic not only would not believe the Bible was true, but thought no one else did either. I was like "am I on a parallel planet?"

Jumping down off of soap box now, and sorry to hijack, but when I glance down the main board at current posts and see a post about Rosie or the View, it usually drawls me in, as I get all riled up about it.

 

[PghLybrt]

Totally agree. i will confess, I have posted before that I can't stand Rosie - so I won't pretend I do. But I used to like her before she stopped being humble and started thinking she knows everything and knows better than everybody. I loved her old show, it was a hoot, until the very end when she got full of herself and stopped being funny. Anyway - I still like good conversation, and will occasionally watch the View, but I get very disturbed when she (and Joy) both proclaim that they were raised Catholic, and use that like that makes them an authority on religion. To here them both talk, I don't mean to be mean, but their parents did an awlful job of teaching them religion, and just cause you were born to Catholic parents who have you baptized Catholic, that doesn't make you an authority (or a spokesperson) for anything. Joy stated the other day that Christians don't really believe the stories in the Bible, that they are "metaphorical" (and used the ole, "I know I was raised Catholic" thing) and she was agast when a couple others (including Barbara of all people) told her "uh , no, Christians really believe there was a Noah and 2 of every animal, and the hard to grasp things, they go on faith" She acted like Christians must be idiots. Now I know I am not quoting this as it was stated, but that was the jist of the conversation. I was sitting jaw dropped that someone who proclaims to be raised Catholic not only would not believe the Bible was true, but thought no one else did either. I was like "am I on a parallel planet?"

Jumping down off of soap box now, and sorry to hijack, but when I glance down the main board at current posts and see a post about Rosie or the View, it usually drawls me in, as I get all riled up about it.

Just to ad a differing voice here, I attended a Catholic University and that is how they presented the Old testament. It is a book of stories that we are to learn from but they did not actually happen exactly as written (they may be based upon something).

Not saying that’s how I believe as I am not Catholic…or very religious for that matter …but that is exactly how it was taught in our scripture classes.
Not saying all Catholics are taught this way but that is how it was where I attended.

 

[Boston5602]

LOL! Maybe ... but unless she's taking bible lessons from ME I still don't trust 'em!!!

Yeah, I know what "tower" she's talking about and as engineers in a new book debunking the 2001 Conspiracy Theories recently said, it would have taken 75 men working full time for 2 months to lay enough explosives to take down the building - and this with no one noticing!

Not to defend Rosie or anything but.......... on either dateline or 60 minutes , one of them type shows. There HAD been a crew sealing up parts of the tower a little at a time over the period of 6-8 weeks before hand. It was stated the work was for environmental purposes but no one could come up with any specific act of work on paper.

 

[Viki]

Not to defend Rosie or anything but.......... on either dateline or 60 minutes , one of them type shows. There HAD been a crew sealing up parts of the tower a little at a time over the period of 6-8 weeks before hand. It was stated the work was for environmental purposes but no one could come up with any specific act of work on paper.

Did anyone come up with 75 men?

 

[terri01p]

I've watched the show from the beginning - when I get a chance and only the hot topics segments, which they've considerably expanded over the years - and I loved Rosie - up until recently. And now I'm thinking she's gone round the bend. I heard her make comments last week about fire never before in history melting steel (so, we are supposed to believe that something fishy happened with the collapse twin towers, possibly something that is OUR fault) that sent chills up my spine and had me muttering crazy lady.

Incidentally, I've never been impressed by her grasp of Christianity (or serious lack thereof), but I can hardly blame her for that when the vast majority of Christians get it so wrong.

I still love a passionate conversation, but I think she's lost perspective.

You know I'm not gay and I don't pretend to have a family member or friend that is so people can say "wow, she's in ", but I just wanted to say that I really like Rosie, I know shes alittle loud acting but I think, and it's just my thoughts that she says alot of what the average person thinks...my dh and I listened to her last week and were like geezs that what we think. Being gay and all that aside, I like some of the issues she brings up, she's seems to be a very smart person.

 

[CanadianGuy]

Did anyone come up with 75 men?

If you do come up with 75 men.. please send them to:

CanadianGuy
123 Main Street.....

 

[Viki]

If you do come up with 75 men.. please send them to:

CanadianGuy
123 Main Street.....

Somebody FINALLY got it!!!

I'm clearly just as funny as Rosie these days!