The VGF 2 pricing thread

[Ruttangel]

Just about to post that, incentives start at $4, were $8 for 125 points and down from $21 to $12 for 200 points

 

[Nabas]

Yes. That is why I said that “I stand corrected”.

I don’t think it behooves anyone here to me to carry on with my grievances on this, so I’ll demur with just stating this. I think that this sets a dangerous precedent (well, as you pointed out, the Treehouses did too) that DVD can just change things in the program on a whim in their best interests, not necessarily in the best interests of the association. Was it in the contracts that they could? Yes, but until these 2 instances, they hadn’t done that. I’d say that this is an even more fundamental change to the association than the treehouses were. It makes me think twice about DVC as I haven’t in the 15 years that we’ve been owners. My biggest fear is that they’ll just slap new crazy point units into an association to “re-allocate” at a later date. That makes me think…

OTOH, I can always just sell my VGF interest for what I paid, if not more on the resale market and we’ve had some good years there, so, yes, this is a “first world problem”.

We have toured the VGF2 model room and don’t like it as much as the VGF1 Studio for the following reasons:

• We want a microwave.
• We want a real mini fridge.
• We are a couple and prefer a sofa over 2 queen beds.
• The VGF1 bathroom (with its 2 showers) is better.
• VGF1 is much closer to its parking lot (we always have a car).
• We prefer being able to pull up and drop off or pick up our luggage right at the building.
• We prefer the coffee pot at VGF1 over the individual pods at VGF2.

Most of what we like above is subjective. Based on your party’s mix and how you vacation, you might feel differently about some or most of these.

However, there’s no question that the VGF1 bathroom is far superior for pretty much everyone.

We always will try to book a VGF1 Studio first, but VGF2 means that it likely will become more difficult to get a VGF1 Studio but easier to get any Studio.

As current VGF owners, we are in the camp that VGF2 offers us more negatives than positives.

It did not have to be this way. Really, VGF2 only needs a microwave and real mini fridge to balance things out for us. We can tolerate the rest.

 

[Nabas]

Wait..there is no toaster???

No toaster.

 

[Nabas]

Why would there be a toaster? There is no toaster in the regular hotel rooms. A coffee maker and a beverage cooler. That's it.

The coffee maker in VGF2 is the individual pod type.

We much prefer the coffee pot in VGF1. We like making a pot of coffee in the morning.

 

[Ruttangel]

Wow, not very generous fr new members, starts $207, then $205 for 175 points, must have sold very well. Also 175? Makes you think minimum is going up

 

[hglenn]

Wow, not very generous fr new members, starts $207, then $205 for 175 points, must have sold very well. Also 175? Makes you think minimum is going up

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Yea, guess I won't be getting my "Welcome Home" email today... bummer. RIV isn't terrible but I was hoping for better at VGF.

 

[qwerty2k]

whilst as a potential new owner i was hoping for 'better' (im only going to potentially purchase 150pts) - the new pricing is still much cheaper than before the new units opened up, so overall fairly happy still.

 

[Ruttangel]

whilst as a potential new owner i was hoping for 'better' (im only going to potentially purchase 150pts) - the new pricing is still much cheaper than before the new units opened up, so overall fairly happy still.

If you stepped up to 175 then the rate for those extra 25pts is $193 as you would then get a discount on all points but yeah still not too generous.

 

[Marionnette]

Wow, not very generous fr new members, starts $207, then $205 for 175 points, must have sold very well. Also 175? Makes you think minimum is going up

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Wow! Those are some pretty stingy incentives. I guess anyone who sold for a song on the resale market recently is kicking themselves for not waiting. Resale doesn't look so bad compared to these prices.

 

[Dyefrog]

If you stepped up to 175 then the rate for those extra 25pts is $193 as you would then get a discount on all points but yeah still not too generous.

If they are a new owner, wouldn't their discount only bring it to $205?

 

[mamaofsix]

If you stepped up to 175 then the rate for those extra 25pts is $193 as you would then get a discount on all points but yeah still not too generous.

Can you explain further what you mean? How would it be $193 for VGF2?

 

[MiraclesTakeTime]

Wow, not very generous fr new members, starts $207, then $205 for 175 points, must have sold very well. Also 175? Makes you think minimum is going up

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This was my thought this morning too. The June deadline doesn't seem like that much of a deal. If we buy 200 points, it's only $800.00 loss. Not really a lot when you are spending that kind of cash.

 

[Ruttangel]

If they are a new owner, wouldn't their discount only bring it to $205?

Yes, but You pay $207 for first 150 points and then $193 for next 25 giving a total of $205 for all points

 

[Dyefrog]

Yes, but You pay $207 for first 150 points and then $193 for next 25 giving a total of $205 for all points

It's too bad a new owner can't buy a 25 point contract at full price and once closed buy the rest at members discount. Not sure at what point count members discount start so you may end up having to buy more than you want to make it worthwhile.

 

[eticketplease]

It's too bad a new owner can't buy a 25 point contract at full price and once closed buy the rest at members discount. Not sure at what point count members discount start so you may end up having to buy more than you want to make it worthwhile.

No one is able to purchase only 25 points for this resort. They may have in the past but I believe the minimum add-on was raised to 50.

As far as getting the points at a discount, as soon as you become a member you would qualify.

So if you purchased a small point contract at any resort on the resale market and it passed ROFR then you would become a member and be eligible for member pricing.

 

[Marionnette]

It's too bad a new owner can't buy a 25 point contract at full price and once closed buy the rest at members discount. Not sure at what point count members discount start so you may end up having to buy more than you want to make it worthwhile.

Not that it would help now, but a new member who wants to get in on current member pricing in the future only needs to purchase a small resale contract anywhere and voila! They become a member.

 

[eticketplease]

Yes, but You pay $207 for first 150 points and then $193 for next 25 giving a total of $205 for all points

I'm a little confused on this math.

I thought all points are at a discounted rate once you meet the published criteria.

If someone was purchasing 175-199 points Price Per Point is $205
200-249 would be $203
250-299 Points be $201
300-499 points come in at $199 a point.

Is this wrong?

 

[Sandisw]

Wow, not very generous fr new members, starts $207, then $205 for 175 points, must have sold very well. Also 175? Makes you think minimum is going up

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How did they adjust RIV? Did those go down too?

 

[Ruttangel]

I'm a little confused on this math.

I thought all points are at a discounted rate once you meet the published criteria.

If someone was purchasing 175-199 points Price Per Point is $205
200-249 would be $203
250-299 Points be $201
300-499 points come in at $199 a point.

Is this wrong?

No, you are correct
But if you were going to buy 150 points always worth looking at what the step cost would be to next incentive bracket.
You are only effectively paying $193 for the extra points stretching to 175 from 150. ($35,875 - $31,050)/25.

 

[Ruttangel]

How did they adjust RIV? Did those go down too?

Yes, they removed the limited time discounts