The VGF 2 pricing thread

What will 200 points at VGF2 look like at launch, with incentives included?

  • Same price as Riviera, Same point chart as VGF1

    Votes: 34 14.6%
  • Same price as Riviera, higher point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 14 6.0%
  • Same price as Riviera, lower point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • A little higher than Riviera ($1-$25 more), same point chart as VGF1

    Votes: 74 31.8%
  • A little higher than Riviera ($1-$25 more), higher point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 50 21.5%
  • A little higher than Riviera ($1-$25 more), lower point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 6 2.6%
  • A lot higher than Riviera ($26+ more), same point chart as VGF1

    Votes: 39 16.7%
  • A lot higher than Riviera ($26+ more), higher point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 14 6.0%
  • A lot higher than Riviera ($26+ more), lower point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • Total voters
    233
  • Poll closed .
Anyone know if I still qualify for incentives if I split my contracts and the memberships have different names? (One in just my name that ties to the existing one I already have AND one in my name and my husband’s so he gets a blue card too.)
 
I hear ya! I spoke to my guide first thing Thursday morning, but my phone dropped the call and I wasn’t able to get back in touch with him until the end of the day. He was finalizing everything (already had my credit card information) when he realized there was a problem and it wouldn’t actually create the contracts.
(I wanted 3 - 100 point contracts with my husband’s name included. It’s considered a new membership since his name isn’t on the current one, so one had to be at least 150. I wanted equal contracts because I have 3 kids. Between that and the fact that I wouldn’t be getting 2021 points as hoped, I told him I needed to think about it before I decided if I wanted equal contracts or my husband on the membership.)
But, he was off yesterday and today! I’m hoping today doesn’t seem to drag on like yesterday did! 😂
I spoke to my guide Thursday too and then did hours of math to see whether I should get 60 or 125 VGF or AKL. I was all ready to get 60 VGF until he said no 2021 points. I did a lot of math and sample vacation planning over 10 years and Landed on 80 points AKL. The extra banked 2021 points keep me in 1 BR pretty much forever, just not as often at VGF and RIV and I can keep trying out all the resorts until addonitis gets me another small add on.

I loved VGF even though the studio was cramped for 3, and hope I can still get a 1br someday in February. If not, AKL and animal watching is fine with me.
 
I spoke to my guide Thursday too and then did hours of math to see whether I should get 60 or 125 VGF or AKL. I was all ready to get 60 VGF until he said no 2021 points. I did a lot of math and sample vacation planning over 10 years and Landed on 80 points AKL. The extra banked 2021 points keep me in 1 BR pretty much forever, just not as often at VGF and RIV and I can keep trying out all the resorts until addonitis gets me another small add on.

I loved VGF even though the studio was cramped for 3, and hope I can still get a 1br someday in February. If not, AKL and animal watching is fine with me.
I’m in this exact same predicament! Trying to decide between 80ish points direct at AKL or VGF. I like the cheaper rooms at AKL but the contract is 7 years shorter. I just don’t know what to do. The double points is what tipped the scale for you?
 
Bought yesterday but didn‘t get my docs til today. A couple things:

1. I saw a line in there that sort of looked like a resale use restriction. Has anyone else seen this? This may be standard and I am not familiar with the resale restriction language on RIV. Anyone know?

2. I asked them to not include the title insurance per comments on the board but I see it anyway. It is optional, correct? Major downside to turning it down (if I can) since I’m buying direct anyway?

The contract when sold is restricted to only the original resorts and can’t be used for RIV. So that is what it is referring to.
 

I’m in this exact same predicament! Trying to decide between 80ish points direct at AKL or VGF. I like the cheaper rooms at AKL but the contract is 7 years shorter. I just don’t know what to do. The double points is what tipped the scale for you?
Yep. I’ll be 90 when akl expires so that didn’t factor into it. I have a 110 AKL resale. I was choosing between 60 and 125, and VGF and AKL. 80 AKL gave me similar trips to 125 VGF over the next 10 years with the banked points. After 10 years I’m back to a studio or value 1br every other year, but by then I might have another 50 points somewhere.
 
I’m in this exact same predicament! Trying to decide between 80ish points direct at AKL or VGF. I like the cheaper rooms at AKL but the contract is 7 years shorter. I just don’t know what to do. The double points is what tipped the scale for you?
Head to head, it might come down to home resort advantage, or dues. I love everything about AKL except driving distance and the pool is just meh. Maybe Kidani is better? I’ve never seen it.
 
Head to head, it might come down to home resort advantage, or dues. I love everything about AKL except driving distance and the pool is just meh. Maybe Kidani is better? I’ve never seen it.
This is where im stuck. I’d love the home advantage at AK for the value and club level rooms but don’t like the bus only transportation with little kids. If it werent for the bad transportation I’d definitely buy and stay at AKV almost exclusively.
 
Why are so many people changing their minds solely because you don’t get 2021 points? I’m not being snarky, I genuinely want to know because I don’t understand. I was disappointed to not get 2021 points, but it didn’t make me think twice at all about what I was going to buy. I saw the price they came in at and planned on 300 points, when my guide said no points until Dec 2022 I was surprised with some disappointment and mild annoyance, but never did it cross my mind to change anything because of it.
 
The contract when sold is restricted to only the original resorts and can’t be used for RIV. So that is what it is referring to.
So it is restricted to the Original 14. Exactly the same as other VGF resales currently
 
Why are so many people changing their minds solely because you don’t get 2021 points? I’m not being snarky, I genuinely want to know because I don’t understand. I was disappointed to not get 2021 points, but it didn’t make me think twice at all about what I was going to buy. I saw the price they came in at and planned on 300 points, when my guide said no points until Dec 2022 I was surprised with some disappointment and mild annoyance, but never did it cross my mind to change anything because of it.

I agree unless it was a strong debate about VGF vs a different resort. The UY I planned to purchase at VGC way back came without the current points so at 1st I decided I'd add on my other UY which wasn't the most ideal. But then I switched back recognizing it should be the best over the long haul. The initial annoyance was great when they announced sales and what points they were giving but it quickly became a little blip on the radar.
 
Why are so many people changing their minds solely because you don’t get 2021 points? I’m not being snarky, I genuinely want to know because I don’t understand. I was disappointed to not get 2021 points, but it didn’t make me think twice at all about what I was going to buy. I saw the price they came in at and planned on 300 points, when my guide said no points until Dec 2022 I was surprised with some disappointment and mild annoyance, but never did it cross my mind to change anything because of it.
These points were basically worth $20 per point or $6,000 (on my 300 point contract). I think that’s why it is a big deal! I already had “plans” for what I was going to do with them! I’ll have to rent points from another member to complete my reservation or shorten my vacation or choose a smaller Villa. (Not meant to be snarky either. 😉 )
 
These points were basically worth $20 per point or $6,000. I think that’s why it is a big deal! I already had “plans” for what I was going to do with them! I’ll have to rent points from another member to complete my reservation or shorten my vacation or choose a smaller Villa. (Not meant to be snarky either. 😉 )

For years it's been said here to not buy based on one trip. Just be certain to consider the entire life of the contract.
As I mentioned though if it was always a debate between a couple of locations then use whatever factors sway you one way or the other.
 
For years it's been said here to not buy based on one trip. Just be certain to consider the entire life of the contract.
As I mentioned though if it was always a debate between a couple of locations then use whatever factors sway you one way or the other.

By July 2023 there may be some perceived benefit to buying and still getting October 2022 points. Of course, it will likely cost $15-20 more per point, assuming DVC is still selling. And in the end, you get the same number of points. The only real benefit to waiting is a modest dues savings, which has no chance of exceeding the higher acquisition cost.
 
Well I chatted online early morning 2 days ago when sales opened. Tried calling my guide that night - left a voice message & also replied to the email he’d sent. Yesterday he called at 9:25 am my time (west coast) & it took exactly half an hour to arrange my purchase - he said the docs would arrive w/in 24 hours, they haven’t yet - I’m still waiting, also waiting for the first of the 3 payments I scheduled for my Chase visa to show up. Anyone else in the same boat? I’m wondering now if I won’t see any docs until Monday.
BTW, I didn’t ask - but he mentioned that the luggage was gone 😂
 
For years it's been said here to not buy based on one trip. Just be certain to consider the entire life of the contract.
As I mentioned though if it was always a debate between a couple of locations then use whatever factors sway you one way or the other.
It didn’t sway my decision to a different resort. I wasn’t planning to buy another 300 points (I was thinking 200-250, but when I saw the incentives I started thinking how the extra $6000 worth of points could justify my extra spending.) I was thinking I would be getting a minimum of 400-500 points at the start of my contract, so paying more and getting less than I initially had thought I would get is disappointing. But, I decided one year/trip wasn’t worth missing out on another 300 point contract.
 
So it is restricted to the Original 14. Exactly the same as other VGF resales currently
Exactly the same as buying any other direct points from any other resort (except Riviera). You can use them to book at RR, but anyone you sell them to down the road cannot.
 
For years it's been said here to not buy based on one trip. Just be certain to consider the entire life of the contract.
As I mentioned though if it was always a debate between a couple of locations then use whatever factors sway you one way or the other.
But in the discounted cash flow model of total cost/benefit of ownership, Year 0 points should be valued dollar-for-dollar.
 
By July 2023 there may be some perceived benefit to buying and still getting October 2022 points. Of course, it will likely cost $15-20 more per point, assuming DVC is still selling. And in the end, you get the same number of points. The only real benefit to waiting is a modest dues savings, which has no chance of exceeding the higher acquisition cost.
This is why I decided to wait. I was originally planning on purchasing 125 points. But my first resale contract came loaded with 20/21 points easily rented out for a couple of thousand dollars, so if I wait till 2023 it’s basically a wash if the price isn’t over $220. If I hadn’t been successful renting points out, it probably wouldn’t have bothered me as much.

It’s just with an Oct UY I should be getting 2021 points, and don’t understand how DVD is allowed to not to give them. DVD knows the value since they offer to ”buy back” these points for $10 on other promotions. I hope this isn’t going to be some new policy with direct sales.

So I’ll wait and see what happens to resale prices, as well as pricing/charts for DLT, before making any commitments. I might regret it though if this sales pace keeps up and it’s sold out before 2023!
 
For years it's been said here to not buy based on one trip. Just be certain to consider the entire life of the contract.
As I mentioned though if it was always a debate between a couple of locations then use whatever factors sway you one way or the other.
If looking at the entire life of the contract it looks even worse of a deal. Gfv will net 41 more sets of points. Rivera will net 48 more sets of points before expiration. At $207 a point one can factor a per year cost for gfv at $5.05 a point just in purchase prices. Long term maintenance fees can be expected to far outpace Riviera’s. The grand Floridian hotel building is already 30 + years old. The monorail is already 50+ years old.
When I purchased my Riviera contract I factored in the free set of current UY points, discount on next UY points and I used all the points to book a deal Aulani was running for 2 free nights on my 10 night stay. I literally had the initial contract paid for compared to cash rates within the first year.
Grand Floridian villas were our favorite resort until we stayed at Riviera which now rates far above any dvc property.
Grand Floridian will sell well and if that’s the resort someone loves as much as we love Riviera then it’s worth the price. The missing current UY points was a big deal for me and definitely the dealbreaker. In a few more months people won’t be faced with purchasing a stripped contract so the decision to omit current UY points was a smart calculation on their part. For someone like me who already had those points factored into expenditure justification, the free luggage could not make up for the lost points.
 















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