The VGF 2 pricing thread

[RoseGold]

My questions related to UY and how 2 differently titled contracts for the same resort can affect booking capability.

Well, the trust is the solution to this. The trust/LLC can be one membership number with any number of contracts as far as Disney is concerned (keep the same UY), and the backend ownership is done with legal advice and is much more flexible than deeds with the comptroller. This is also more flexible as to who gets Blue Card benefits. This is how I would structure my contracts if I were buying direct. Who Disney considers an owner and who is an owner are not necessarily the same thing.

 

[bobbiwoz]

Do we have the price yet?

 

[nuhusky123]

Do we have the price yet?

no

 

[Sandisw]

Do we have the price yet?

Nope. And my guide told me it will not be shared until sales start March 3rd.

 

[bobbiwoz]

Nope. And my guide told me it will not be shared until sales start March 3rd.

no

Thank you.

 

[MICKIMINI]

 

[UrsulaWantsYourSoul]

Do we have the price yet?

Yes - and the answer is: you're priceless, @bobbiwoz !
Appreciate the ever-knowledgeable and entertaining members of disboards.

 

[HappyDisneyWife]

Oh man… this is going to be a looong 2 weeks

Like everyone else here, I’ve got my “if” scenarios: IF incentives are really good (& combinable with RIV)- I would like to buy at both resorts, so that I can get ditch my current lonely RIV UY & be left with just the 2 UY that I want. If they are just good, I will buy at VGF only. If priced too high- I’ll just wait for the perfect resale.

SHOW US THE NUMBERS ALREADY!!!!!

& I feel that I’m in the minority here, but if DVC is going to try to actively sell 2 resorts at/near the same price and they have a 10-yr different shelf life, the 40-yr resort would be a hard sell to your average buyer. VGF has got to be under RIV (whether by incentives or what have you) to make it palatable to your average vacationer looking at DVC, IMO… we’ll see!

 

[nuhusky123]

Oh man… this is going to be a looong 2 weeks

Like everyone else here, I’ve got my “if” scenarios: IF incentives are really good (& combinable with RIV)- I would like to buy at both resorts, so that I can get ditch my current lonely RIV UY & be left with just the 2 UY that I want. If they are just good, I will buy at VGF only. If priced too high- I’ll just wait for the perfect resale.

SHOW US THE NUMBERS ALREADY!!!!!

& I feel that I’m in the minority here, but if DVC is going to try to actively sell 2 resorts at/near the same price and they have a 10-yr different shelf life, the 40-yr resort would be a hard sell to your average buyer. VGF has got to be under RIV (whether by incentives or what have you) to make it palatable to your average vacationer looking at DVC, IMO… we’ll see!

This is why I think price will be the same as riv

riv is longer but as we keep hearing gfv is the premier crown jewel. the shorter timeframe offsets location creating an opportunity for sales

i kind of view this as the pitch by dvc

for $207 you can get riv and more ownership years, or for $207 you can get walking distance to mk and our best resort but shorter ownership

 

[RamblinWreck]

This is why I think price will be the same as riv

riv is longer but as we keep hearing gfv is the premier crown jewel. the shorter timeframe offsets location creating an opportunity for sales

i kind of view this as the pitch by dvc

for $207 you can get riv and more ownership years, or for $207 you can get walking distance to mk and our best resort but shorter ownership

My hunch is you've pretty much nailed it here. We may see incentives come and go that make one lower than the other for a time, but I think you're spot on.

 

[Her Dotness]

I think RIV's newness will be a big advantage. New, sleek, European flair, that wild walkway tunnel going under the building--those are exciting!

That'd be my push if selling the two.

 

[Bjaiken77]

I don’t think it’s crazy for VGF and RIV to be the same price. I bought RIV knowing VGF was going to be selling soon. I love RIV. Obviously, I like VGF, as I’m looking to add points there, too. For me, the big drawback to RIV are the resale restrictions.

But I think to price them the same with the assumption that they are going to be used over the lifetime of the contract is fair. I probably even give the nod to RIV because of the additional years. This is actually a pro-VGF statement, as I hope the prices for a resort I also want to buy are comparable.

 

[MICKIMINI]

Well, since DVC will probably take the two 40 point AKV's in ROFR we need a plan B...got an eye roll last night from DH when I mentioned GFV2. Just got a check today for a small, stripped OKW we flipped for a nice, little profit burning a hole in my pocket...

Great! I can celebrate my 103th birthday at GFV2!

 

[Bjaiken77]

Well, since DVC will probably take the two 40 point AKV's in ROFR we need a plan B...got an eye roll last night from DH when I mentioned GFV2. Just got a check today for a small, stripped OKW we flipped for a nice, little profit burning a hole in my pocket...

Great! I can celebrate my 103th birthday at GFV2!

Thats the thing - based on our age, the 2060-2070 resorts are pretty appealing to us. I’d like to sell our SSR points and buy Poly, BLT, or CCV just to put all our contracts in that range, but if it doesn’t happen, the SSR end date still gives us a lot of years.

 

[DVCsloth]

Bang for your buck will go a lot further at CCV. We will never see those point charts again!

Agree, the only thing they did was add the Cabins making the Studios harder to book, but we usually book the 1br's.

 

[fumanchu2488]

If you purchase GFV do you think we will get 2021 UY points like we would if we purchased RIV?

 

[RoseGold]

If you purchase GFV do you think we will get 2021 UY points like we would if we purchased RIV?

DVC hasn’t been selling VGF directly in a long time, and they keep ROFR and foreclosing. They have at least some VGF1 points, which will have points.

It’s interesting to think about what 2021 points they will sell for VGF2. Maybe limiting to something like October UY? No one knows yet!

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

It’s hard for me to imagine that for existing owners you wouldn’t just get whatever points your current UY entitles you too.

For new owners I could see them pushing February to start.

 

[macman123]

If you purchase GFV do you think we will get 2021 UY points like we would if we purchased RIV?

Of course - you would have points that are current assuming your UY isn't after the date you buy.

 

[Sandisw]

If you purchase GFV do you think we will get 2021 UY points like we would if we purchased RIV?

I think the only UY in question at this point is April UY. The rest should get 2021 points with a summer opening and IMO, I think they will get them as well.

The only UY left out of RIV for 2019 points was Feb and that was a new resort

VGF points already exist so there is no reason not to include all UY. They have points already from the current building and can’t see why the new building would not have all UYs available.

The thing we don’t know yet is which points will be for sale to start. Points deeded to the new building wont be eligible for any bookings until the new rooms open for occupancy.

Points deeded to the current building won’t be restricted in that way.