The VGF 2 pricing thread

[nuhusky123]

My guide said the price will not be announced before sales start so offically, we won’t know until March 3rd.

I did my number crunching using a few different situations since the max we will go is 125.

So, close to $200, will do anywhere 80 to 125. In the $220s, then it’s 50. At $255, in no rush.

Personally, I think we will be able to purchase what I want because it will be similar to RIV. I will be sad if it is not. At least we are only 10 days away!

If the price is in the $255 range ill be fascinated to see sales over next six months. I’d expect pathetic sales numbers but also open to dvc surprising me

sales In March which will likely all be from dvc members won’t reflect true interest in gfv. Not until the dvc buyers drop off and non members get a crack at this will we really know how successful gfv is going to be

 

[davidl81]

If the price is in the $255 range ill be fascinated to see sales over next six months. I’d expect pathetic sales numbers but also open to dvc surprising me

sales In March which will likely all be from dvc members won’t reflect true interest in gfv. Not until the dvc buyers drop off and non members get a crack at this will we really know how successful gfv is going to be

At $255 base (assuming no huge incentive to bring it down to $190 etc) the sales for VGF will be pathetic. It would be a 25% premium to RIV, and very few people would buy that. Sure there would be a few current VGF owners who need an extra 100 points etc that would buy them, but basically there would be no brand new DVC buyers for VGF when they can get RIV at 25% less. And no, DVC is not spending the money buying the property from Disney, and refurbishing it just for it not to sell and make RIV look more attractive .

 

[nuhusky123]

does anyone have handy the incentives they offered to dvc members when riv went live?

 

[UrsulaWantsYourSoul]

For Riviera in 2019….
Initial per point cost was $188, “with some attractive incentives available for existing Disney Vacation Club members who add on. For a 125 point purchase, the incentive will be $500. For 150 points, $1,750. 175 points gets you $3,150. 300 points equals $6,750. If you do 1,000 points, the incentive is $30,500! “

 

[nuhusky123]

For Riviera in 2019….
Initial per point cost was $188, “with some attractive incentives available for existing Disney Vacation Club members who add on. For a 125 point purchase, the incentive will be $500. For 150 points, $1,750. 175 points gets you $3,150. 300 points equals $6,750. If you do 1,000 points, the incentive is $30,500! “

That’s interesting thanks. The delta between 125 and 150 is pretty big. They really pushed going for 150 or more

 

[UrsulaWantsYourSoul]

https://dvcnews.com/index.php/resor...-pricing-revealed-for-disney-s-riviera-resort

 

[Ssplashhmtn]

sales In March which will likely all be from dvc members won’t reflect true interest in gfv. Not until the dvc buyers drop off and non members get a crack at this will we really know how successful gfv is going to be

Alternatively I think sales will be directed at the steady supply of Grand Floridian hotel guests that just dropped nearly $1000/ night (with hotel tax) for an unrenovated room in one of the other buildings. If I were shown the DVC math (VGF point chart for the same room, and cost/point + dues), plus pics of the newly renovated rooms, I’d sign right up.

 

[SusieQ93]

Alternatively I think sales will be directed at the steady supply of Grand Floridian hotel guests that just dropped nearly $1000/ night (with hotel tax) for an unrenovated room in one of the other buildings. If I were shown the DVC math (VGF point chart for the same room, and cost/point + dues), plus pics of the newly renovated rooms, I’d sign right up.

That math is what convinced my husband it was a good idea. If you’re going to go anyway and like to stay in the best deluxe properties there, it honestly is a no-brainer.

 

[DisneyMom_3]

Alternatively I think sales will be directed at the steady supply of Grand Floridian hotel guests that just dropped nearly $1000/ night (with hotel tax) for an unrenovated room in one of the other buildings. If I were shown the DVC math (VGF point chart for the same room, and cost/point + dues), plus pics of the newly renovated rooms, I’d sign right up.

That math is what convinced my husband it was a good idea. If you’re going to go anyway and like to stay in the best deluxe properties there, it honestly is a no-brainer.

Good point!
We stayed Moderate due to price, but I always wanted to stay at the Deluxe resorts. When I realized I could stay Deluxe for the same price as a Moderate, it was a No-brainer for us too!

 

[davidl81]

That math is what convinced my husband it was a good idea. If you’re going to go anyway and like to stay in the best deluxe properties there, it honestly is a no-brainer.

I wonder how many people who stay at the Grand Floridian Hotel are typical DVC buyers? IE how many of those guest tend to do Disney once every 5 years or so as opposed to those who go every single year?
I have no idea on the breakdown, but I’m sure Disney knows 100%.

 

[mort1331]

what would be more enticing to them is if they were able to put the price of the room they just paid for towards their new dvc purchase. Nice down payment.

 

[Sandisw]

what would be more enticing to them is if they were able to put the price of the room they just paid for towards their new dvc purchase. Nice down payment.

Years ago, they used to do this. I believe they charged you the points instead.

 

[Her Dotness]

Alternatively I think sales will be directed at the steady supply of Grand Floridian hotel guests that just dropped nearly $1000/ night (with hotel tax) for an unrenovated room in one of the other buildings. If I were shown the DVC math (VGF point chart for the same room, and cost/point + dues), plus pics of the newly renovated rooms, I’d sign right up.

I disagree.

I suspect that very few people who spend that much for a GF room would buy VGF points at all.

Those who do buy into DVC and want VGF are probably more like us, can't pop off for a GF stay any old time because they simply don't have that much money.

We loved staying at the GF and finally decided that it was ridiculous to keep laying out wads of money for a week there every year when we could break even on VGF in a few years--and then feel like our room cost nothing.

Neither you nor we are typical GF hotel guests.

I truly don't think the majority of GF guests are interested in VGF. They don't need to be.

 

[AvidDisReader]

At $255 base (assuming no huge incentive to bring it down to $190 etc) the sales for VGF will be pathetic. It would be a 25% premium to RIV, and very few people would buy that. Sure there would be a few current VGF owners who need an extra 100 points etc that would buy them, but basically there would be no brand new DVC buyers for VGF when they can get RIV at 25% less. And no, DVC is not spending the money buying the property from Disney, and refurbishing it just for it not to sell and make RIV look more attractive .

Actually, this will be a chance for those like me to finally see the effect of the resale restriction. IF (that is a big if), there is NO resale restriction on VGF and the price is higher than RIV, yet the sales are more brisk will those nay sayers finally admit how negative the resale restriction is perceived by the public. On the other hand, if the price is close to RIV but the sales are relatively the same between the 2, I will be forced to admit that the resale restriction really is not that big a deal.

 

[CarolynFH]

what would be more enticing to them is if they were able to put the price of the room they just paid for towards their new dvc purchase. Nice down payment.

That was exactly the incentive when we bought, so many years ago. We were staying 7 nights in a standard room at Poly, which at the time would have cost 97 points. We bought 300 points, paid for 203. The 97 points counted as our down payment.

 

[Sandisw]

Actually, this will be a chance for those like me to finally see the effect of the resale restriction. IF (that is a big if), there is NO resale restriction on VGF and the price is higher than RIV, yet the sales are more brisk will those nay sayers finally admit how negative the resale restriction is perceived by the public. On the other hand, if the price is close to RIV but the sales are relatively the same between the 2, I will be forced to admit that the resale restriction really is not that big a deal.

We may be able to see it with what happens with BLT because those carry no restrictions and have an incentive now bringing it close to RIV.

So, it’s possible we could get insight sooner because of that. I think we Do know that many current owners haven’t bought RIV because of restrictions so I imagine sales for VGF when it just owners will do well, especially if it is close to RIV.

I think it will be an exciting few months to see how the numbers shake out. If it ends up that VGF takes a big portion away from RIV, then it s very possible DVD could choose to remove them.

 

[tidefan]

Actually, this will be a chance for those like me to finally see the effect of the resale restriction. IF (that is a big if), there is NO resale restriction on VGF and the price is higher than RIV, yet the sales are more brisk will those nay sayers finally admit how negative the resale restriction is perceived by the public. On the other hand, if the price is close to RIV but the sales are relatively the same between the 2, I will be forced to admit that the resale restriction really is not that big a deal.

VGF2 has its own drawbacks, however, most notably that there are only 40 years on the contract.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

VGF2 has its own drawbacks, however, most notably that there are only 40 years on the contract.

Actually 42 years. I believe it's the exact same number that BCV had when it was sold new.

 

[Bjaiken77]

We may be able to see it with what happens with BLT because those carry no restrictions and have an incentive now bringing it close to RIV.

So, it’s possible we could get insight sooner because of that. I think we Do know that many current owners haven’t bought RIV because of restrictions so I imagine sales for VGF when it just owners will do well, especially if it is close to RIV.

I think it will be an exciting few months to see how the numbers shake out. If it ends up that VGF takes a big portion away from RIV, then it s very possible DVD could choose to remove them.

I know this has been discussed before, but do you really think the sales guides are going to mention the resale restrictions? People on here are savvy, but we probably delete sent a small portion of total sales.

 

[Her Dotness]

VGF2 has its own drawbacks, however, most notably that there are only 40 years on the contract.

Yet another reason why I'm not so sure it'll attract buyers in the droves I keep seeing people say they expect.

If I were 25-35ish, I doubt I'd want to have my contract run out just as I was about to retire and have more time to loll about at VGF.