The VGF 2 pricing thread

[DVCsloth]

I still think it will be the same as Riviera with some decent current member incentives. I also wouldn't be surprised if they made it more expensive as well.
Love DVC and love VGF, but we'll probably increase our CCV points instead of VGF because of the studio only VGF2. Or I'll hold onto the cash and wait and see how VGF2 ends up.
No hurry for me especially since I have a March use year.

 

[nuhusky123]

With the amount of people on this thread ready to buy at $213 (if that was the imputed price from todays March 3rd announcement), I would think Disney releases at $225. Heck they might not have even finalized pricing yet ans are waiting to read these boards to see how thirsty people are! LOL. Would be spectacular if it was like $225 but only $200 for current members to add on!

We are all a vocal but very small minority. We are not who will buy 2,000,000 points, to Sell out they need to appeal to the non dvc members who know nothing about dvc

we may pick up a few points but whatever price dvc sets has to appeal to the avg Disney park goer and be tantalizing enough to capture a sale. every Additional $1,000 they add to the price decreases the pool of potential buyers

 

[Sandisw]

With the amount of people on this thread ready to buy at $213 (if that was the imputed price from todays March 3rd announcement), I would think Disney releases at $225. Heck they might not have even finalized pricing yet ans are waiting to read these boards to see how thirsty people are! LOL. Would be spectacular if it was like $225 but only $200 for current members to add on!

My guide is already aware that price determines number of points I will be getting.

Come in close to RIV and it will be 80 to 100. Come higher and in the $220s, then max is 50…

Come at $255 and we wont be in any rush to get more points.

 

[nuhusky123]

My guide is already aware that price determines number of points I will be getting.

Come in close to RIV and it will be 80 to 100. Come higher and in the $220s, then max is 50…

Come at $255 and we wont be in any rush to get more points.

I told my guide something similar. although if price is north of $220 I’ll probably just pass and augment stays at swan reserve

told her cash is ready and I’ll buy March 3 first thing prices announced if we are talking low $200s

 

[SusieQ93]

My guide is already aware that price determines number of points I will be getting.

Come in close to RIV and it will be 80 to 100. Come higher and in the $220s, then max is 50…

Come at $255 and we wont be in any rush to get more points.

Price will definitely be a factor for me with number of points. I want 175 and will buy that many if it is $207. I will buy at up to 220, but fewer points depending on price. Above $220, I’m out.

 

[Littlelulu01]

A higher price than Riviera or Aulani makes no sense unless they really want to capitalize on the Rivera resale restrictions- “pay x $ more and no resale restrictions?” I don’t think they want to market gfv as the work around resale value or as a much nicer and desirable place to stay thus worth more $ per point. Point chart difference is negligible especially when you factor gfv lower mf. Cash room prices are also similar. Seems silly enough to be offered $207 pp for the same contract I could have purchased several use years ago for $145.
As a current dvc owner, I’m only in if they offer me a “pre sale” price discount like they used to do. If I remember correctly they offered up poly and gfv for a week or so at something like $10 less per point to existing members. I’ll wait for Disneyland hotel before I add on if they want more than Riv.
I figure the price paid for not purchasing a “new” “old” gfv contract is theme park view studio at 7 months as the only rooms available.

 

[808blessing]

Where do you think they came up with their max figure? 55k/150= 366 pp
DLT? More average points? Larger rooms? Peak season?

 

[DVCRad]

Where do you think they came up with their max figure? 55k/150= 366 pp
DLT? More average points? Larger rooms? Peak season?

More points than 150.

 

[SusieQ93]

More points than 150.

Yep. But I do think it’s weird they put it to max at $55k. I literally just watched the long promotional video to enter the sweepstakes last night and it showed 4,000 pts as the max. 55k/207 = 265. So I don’t really get what the $55k represents. Even Grand Californian direct for 150 pts is $46,500.

 

[KimMcGowan]

I do not really love GF. I also have no plans to add any points when they go on sale. (One wonders why in the world I have read every page of this thread then ). However, I think in the current climate (possible recession be damned) there is little chance that Bob allows the price to be close to Riv. He is ALL about getting EVERY dollar. I am not going to be surprised at all if the price is exactly in the middle of Riv. and the current sold out price, so $231, right? Then incentives pull it down around $220 (which is what people are saying they will pay). I could be totally off base…

 

[KimMcGowan]

All of that to say that I have a bad feeling that a lot of people are going to be disappointed if they plan on the lower 200’s.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

I have no problem sticking with the guess of it being priced the same base as Riviera with perhaps a little greater discount to start to kick up the sales volume and then settling in to be the similar or identical discounts too. Historically it is what happens and DVC places far less "it's better than" or "it's the flagship" than buyers and owners do. They just want to sell. Also I think the new BLT promotion supports the probability of this pricing.

 

[KimMcGowan]

But Chapekonomics do not seem to be following any rules of the past.

 

[DisneyMom_3]

I saw where someone commented on FB -
“Heard from a cast member from
Dvc today $207 per point”
Let’s hope they actually heard accurate information.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

But Chapekonomics do not seem to be following any rules of the past.

That would just mean they bump up Riviera if they want to sell VGF at a higher price than they currently are selling. I don't think that will happen immediately though.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

Also the Chapek hand is already in this on the side he's better known for - cutting. They are going to offer for sale hotel rooms in a 30+ year old building that they are doing a refurb of and selling it for a little over 40 years vs the recent resort length of 50 years. It may be their biggest profit earner to date.

 

[SusieQ93]

Any notion, based on historical data (such as RIV), when VGF2 sales might open up to non-DVC members? Two days later, seven days later, thirty days later? Just trying to factor in my "wait" to have to make a decision?

FYI someone on FB told me that they got a call from DVC today and were told March 31st for non owners. A few people told me about 30 days, so that seems in line with what has been done in the past…

 

[zavandor]

There's no question that the resale restrictions have cost DVC sales from a certain type of informed buyer. The question is whether those same rules have allowed DVC to add sales in other areas. Specifically, has the ability to say "you cannot stay at all 15 resorts unless you buy direct from us" become a net positive for sales?

There seems to be a perception that the direct purchase restriction is universally bad for sales. DVC doesn't benefit from enacting policies which blindly punish those who buy resale and drive down aftermarket values. Informed buyers are likely to be more sensitive to resale pricing. Relatively uneducated buyers who tour and consider buying while at WDW will only see value in the idea that a direct purchase is necessary to maximize program flexibility.

*IF* the policy is working as intended, there are more people choosing to buy direct because of the resort access + perks than there are people who run scared from the impact on resale value. And if it's not returning the benefits intended, DVC can always change course.

What I think that resale restrictions are currently not doing a lot to increase sales, currently only one resort cannot be booked with a resale contract and it's in WDW, with many other options. But DVC is in this long term. The new DL tower will start changing things quite a bit, because VGC is so small and so difficult to book at 7 months. And of course, when 2042 draws nearer, so many beloved resorts will get out of reach, at that point buying direct just for the flexibility will have a huge impact.
Long story short, I think at the moment it's hurting sales (maybe less than we think, in our well informed bubble), but that doesn't worry DVC, in the long term it'll be a big boost.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

I still think it will be the same as Riviera with some decent current member incentives. I also wouldn't be surprised if they made it more expensive as well.
Love DVC and love VGF, but we'll probably increase our CCV points instead of VGF because of the studio only VGF2. Or I'll hold onto the cash and wait and see how VGF2 ends up.
No hurry for me especially since I have a March use year.

Bang for your buck will go a lot further at CCV. We will never see those point charts again!

 

[Bjaiken77]

I know this is a hypothetical, but that hasn’t stopped us from guessing before. Do you think it’s possible VGF drops below $200/pp with incentives? I know that likely means Riviera gets some good incentives too, but that doesn’t seem outside the realm of possibility.