The VGF 2 pricing thread

[nuhusky123]

4 years away? I heard Pete say on a recent show that DLT is expected to open in 2023 with sales starting towards the end of this year.

Referring to above posters reflections comment in 2026

 

[DVChris]

Referring to above posters reflections comment in 2026

My bad, thanks for the clarification!

 

[jbreen2010]

I talked to a guide today.
On the “add on tool” I saw grand Floridian listed as coming soon so I filled out the box and got a call from a guide. I own 3 resale contracts so did not have a guide.

The guide told me she didn’t have pricing, deals, or know exactly when sales would start but that she was told very soon. She told me she would keep me on her list when they do open up.

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

Im coming in $275. Maybe heavy incentives at the drop.

DVC’s recent price shenanigans have me baffled. But VGF is still the crown jewel and once they sell it though it, there’s nothing else even announced.

They’re going to have 4 resorts for sale at once at some point next year. I’m not holding my breath for an announcement of a brand new resort at WDW until Riviera is 75%+ sold, they won’t want to step on sales. Especially if the rumors of a second CR DVC come true.

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

Only problem is that’s four years away. By that point base price could be approaching $300. Better to buy in now and use your points at 7 months

Base prices aren’t going up anywhere near that much unless they can start moving the resorts they have. They’ve done ~3% a year for 6 years in a row.

 

[Paul Stupin]

Im coming in $275. Maybe heavy incentives at the drop.

DVC’s recent price shenanigans have me baffled. But VGF is still the crown jewel and once they sell it though it, there’s nothing else even announced.

At least you’re sticking to your guns! I hope you’re way off, but who knows…

 

[Jelly563]

At least you’re sticking to your guns! I hope you’re way off, but who knows…

I was also in the $275 camp. I'm willing to dip down a little bit but not to the extent of most on here. They are not going to give away VGF point people, you are going to have to PAY. $250

 

[Paul Stupin]

I was also in the $275 camp. I'm willing to dip down a little bit but not to the extent of most on here. They are not going to give away VGF point people, you are going to have to PAY. $250

I think you’re wrong for all the reasons we’ve discussed a million times. But your pov is basically that VGF is the signature property of WDW, and as a result it transcends any pricing strategy that DVC has ever used, in its history, in the last 30 years, to launch sales for any kind of new DVC offering. It exists in a world of its own, and cannot be compared in any way, shape or form to any other DVC resort that has initially sold for far less.

Thats a pretty grand view of an older hotel wing going through a quick refurb with pretty much zero actual remodeling, and a truncated expiration date. Granted, I love it, and can’t wait to buy more points, but if the pricing is monumentally high, I’ll look elsewhere, along with most everyone else. Thats why I think it’ll be priced reasonably.

 

[Marionnette]

I think you’re wrong for all the reasons we’ve discussed a million times. But your pov is basically that VGF is the signature property of WDW, and as a result it transcends any pricing strategy that DVC has ever used, in its history, in the last 30 years, to launch sales for any kind of new DVC offering. It exists in a world of its own, and cannot be compared in any way, shape or form to any other DVC resort that has initially sold for far less.

Thats a pretty grand view of an older hotel wing going through a quick refurb with pretty much zero actual remodeling, and a truncated expiration date. Granted, I love it, and can’t wait to buy more points, but if the pricing is monumentally high, I’ll look elsewhere, along with most everyone else. Thats why I think it’ll be priced reasonably.

Except that DVC is not selling a new resort. They're selling more points at an existing resort that has been listed at a base price of $255/point for quite some time now. They won't be marketing just the "resort studios". They'll be flashing those 6 grand villas with their steam showers and media rooms to potential buyers. Guides will be sharing a points chart that includes the 1BR and 2BR options that buyers can reserve. Why do you think that VGF got a refurb ahead of schedule this past December?

Historically speaking, when was the last time you saw DVC reduce the base price of any of their existing resorts? Yes. They offer incentives that drop that out of pocket cost down, but they have never reduced the base price. I fully expect that VGF2 will open sales at the $255 base price with significant incentives that bring the actual cost closer to, but still slightly higher than, RIV.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

They’re going to have 4 resorts for sale at once at some point next year. I’m not holding my breath for an announcement of a brand new resort at WDW until Riviera is 75%+ sold, they won’t want to step on sales. Especially if the rumors of a second CR DVC come true.

What is a CR DVC?

 

[BWV Dreamin]

Except that DVC is not selling a new resort. They're selling more points at an existing resort that has been listed at a base price of $255/point for quite some time now. They won't be marketing just the "resort studios". They'll be flashing those 6 grand villas with their steam showers and media rooms to potential buyers. Guides will be sharing a points chart that includes the 1BR and 2BR options that buyers can reserve. Why do you think that VGF got a refurb ahead of schedule this past December?

Historically speaking, when was the last time you saw DVC reduce the base price of any of their existing resorts? Yes. They offer incentives that drop that out of pocket cost down, but they have never reduced the base price. I fully expect that VGF2 will open sales at the $255 base price with significant incentives that bring the actual cost closer to, but still slightly higher than, RIV.

Absolutely, well said.

 

[Nabas]

I wonder, could the recent BLT deep discount from a sold out resort price be a test run for using the same strategy at VGF2?

 

[BWV Dreamin]

I wonder, could the recent BLT deep discount from a sold out resort price be a test run for using the same strategy for VGF2?

Yes. Thats why I don’t think it’s coming in at the same price as Riviera. If sales go well with VGF, expect this same strategy to happen at other DVC’s ( Boardwalk Inn, Yacht Club, etc).

 

[SleeplessInTO]

Yes. Thats why I don’t think it’s coming in at the same price as Riviera. If sales go well with VGF, expect this same strategy to happen at other DVC’s ( Boardwalk Inn, Yacht Club, etc).

Oh I hope you’re right. I would love to own at Yacht Club. Even if it expires in 15 years from when I buy. (I know it’s unlikely but a girl can dream!!)

 

[nuhusky123]

Oh I hope you’re right. I would love to own at Yacht Club. Even if it expires in 15 years from when I buy. (I know it’s unlikely but a girl can dream!!)

Why would it expire in 15 years. yc would be a new association with its own date of expiration

 

[nuhusky123]

Except that DVC is not selling a new resort. They're selling more points at an existing resort that has been listed at a base price of $255/point for quite some time now. They won't be marketing just the "resort studios". They'll be flashing those 6 grand villas with their steam showers and media rooms to potential buyers. Guides will be sharing a points chart that includes the 1BR and 2BR options that buyers can reserve. Why do you think that VGF got a refurb ahead of schedule this past December?

Historically speaking, when was the last time you saw DVC reduce the base price of any of their existing resorts? Yes. They offer incentives that drop that out of pocket cost down, but they have never reduced the base price. I fully expect that VGF2 will open sales at the $255 base price with significant incentives that bring the actual cost closer to, but still slightly higher than, RIV.

who on this board will buy at $255 or above? I won’t, that’s a crazy high price

$207 and I’ll buy but on 100 points $255 vs $207 is a delta of $5000. That’s a lot of money

if dvc lists gfv at $255 sales will be garbage

 

[DisneyMom_3]

Dvc is starting a sweepstake for gfv giving away what looks like a free stay in the new studios. Link is up but sweepstake not yet live, starts noon est today

https://disneyvacationclub.disney.go.com/villas-at-grand-floridian-resort-and-spa

Anyone else having trouble entering? My email address has an underscore and it won’t let me type it into my email to enter.
I tried yesterday and today on my computer and phone.

 

[DKZB]

I own multiple re-sale contracts at various resorts. I will not buy RIV or AUL, RIV for resale restrictions and AUL because of dues and not being able to get anything until 7 months (Although the December sales had me tempted!). Both VGF and the sold out offer on BLT is tempting me into "upgrading" some of my points because I want to be able to stay at RIV, DLT and anything else that comes afterward. The only reason I am considering this now is a fear that these are the last really good deals on 2060+ resorts (Not AUL) without resale restrictions. A couple things come to mind:

- $200/pp IS NOT cheap even if it is less than they have been selling
- If Direct prices go up, resale prices likely will too making the likely spread to upgrade about the same in the future
- I already own a lot of resale points (SSR / VGF / BLT) and owning more means I will likely start renting some
- I have friends and co-workers with "Direct" points that I could swap with if I wanted to stay at RIV

Part of me wants to sign a contract on 200-250 BLT points on nearly the last day of the sale to have 10 days to see where VGF comes in. Someone please talk me out of this!

 

[SleeplessInTO]

Why would it expire in 15 years. yc would be a new association with its own date of expiration

It’s a hypothetical. I could have said 15 years. Or 50 years. Or 100 years. Or 14.56391 + e^4 years. The point is I would buy YC.

 

[New Mouse]

I think you’re correct, but the caveat is they haven’t started selling yet and the asterisk is there with the legalese. Disney knows how to CYA.

Not really, they wind up settling on more lawsuits than you'd imagine.