The VGF 2 pricing thread

[Paul Stupin]

When rumors were flying about a Poly DVC I remember seeing diagrams somewhere (Tikiman maybe?) showing a tower & a winding River/lagoon like pool throughout the grounds as part of the plan, instead they went all studio hotel room conversions + bungalows, so I wouldn’t say it was impossible, but I can think of lots of reasons that they won’t, starting w/ quick hotel room flips are a lot cheaper than new construction.

edited to add link showing plans w/ 2 towers & much bigger pool never built @ Poly http://www.bigfloridacountry.com/polynesianDVC/DVCconcept.jpg

Interesting plans! For me, it’s hard to imagine additional hotel room flips that would generate the sales and excitement of VGF2. It won’t be a 2042 resort. A Wilderness Lodge conversion would be boring. Animal Kingdom doesn’t need more rooms. VGF was perfect because the original building was small, there was pent up demand, and Grand Floridian is iconic. I guess they could do Yacht Club, but it would be a lesser sibling to Boardwalk. And building an entirely new resort, or resurrecting Reflections, would be monumentally expensive.

Cheaper to add a tower to an existing, beloved resort, a la what is happening with DLT. So that’s why I think DVC will take a close look at Poly.

 

[DisneyMom_3]

Interesting plans! For me, it’s hard to imagine additional hotel room flips that would generate the sales and excitement of VGF2. It won’t be a 2042 resort. A Wilderness Lodge conversion would be boring. Animal Kingdom doesn’t need more rooms. VGF was perfect because the original building was small, there was pent up demand, and Grand Floridian is iconic. I guess they could do Yacht Club, but it would be a lesser sibling to Boardwalk. And building an entirely new resort, or resurrecting Reflections, would be monumentally expensive.

Cheaper to add a tower to an existing, beloved resort, a la what is happening with DLT. So that’s why I think DVC will take a close look at Poly.

My vote is for Yacht Club! Although I wouldn’t mind larger villas that aren’t a ridiculous amount of points at Poly either.
I think the main reason for the GF conversion was that those rooms weren’t being booked anywhere close to capacity along with the fact that the original VGF was so small. As the parks opened back up, people were being upgraded from the Values to GF!
I don’t think Poly and Yacht have the same issue because they didn’t seem to always have availability when GF did, but I don’t really know. I do hope they decide to convert at least part of Yacht Club though. It seems like an easy choice and they wouldn’t have to add it to the same association as BCV so the end date could be more in line with the later resorts.
A split stay at a MK resort and Epcot resort that are within walking distance to the parks would be my preference probably almost every trip!

 

[Red Dog Run]

I spoke with my guide 3 days ago to correct the documents to remove the title insurance and correct the credits. I emailed yesterday to confirm it was actually submitted. I got an email back today saying it was submitted but would take a few more days for me to receive revised docs!

I'm not in a rush but is it really taking 5 days to get docs?

I got my docs this morn from Thursday sales. 3 days

 

[thank_the_phoenicians88]

My guide said they are getting caught up on the new contracts, so hopefully they move quickly! I did find out that you have to be in the system for 48 hours prior to booking at the new building - so anyone buying today won’t be able to make a reservation until Tuesday at the earliest.

 

[DKZB]

I spoke with my guide 3 days ago to correct the documents to remove the title insurance and correct the credits. I emailed yesterday to confirm it was actually submitted. I got an email back today saying it was submitted but would take a few more days for me to receive revised docs!

I'm not in a rush but is it really taking 5 days to get docs?

Today will be 6 days since I requested new docs. I’ve received several reminders to sign the old incorrect ones but no new docs!

 

[mrsap]

Resort Studio Opening Date JUNE 20, 2022

The newest rooms at Villas at Disney's Grand Floridian Resort & Spa are now available for booking with an anticipated grand opening of June 20, 2022.

Beginning March 14, 2022, owners at the Grand Floridian can book the Resort Studios for any check in date from June 20 through February 14, 2023, with the 11-month booking window applicable going forward. Owners can also book any other DVC resort up to 7 months prior to arrival. This applies to both DVC members who recently added points at the Grand Floridian and to those who have owned the resort dating back to its 2013 inception. The original stand-alone DVC building and the new Resort Studios located in Big Pine Key are all part of the same condo association with owners having equal rights to reserve all rooms.

Beginning on May 13, 2022, reservations for the Resort Studios will move online with access open to all DVC members. On that date, owners of other DVC properties will be able to Resort Studios for arrival dates between June 20 and December 13, with future dates subject to the 7 month window.

 

[SL6827]

So Riveria and the Grand (direct) are the same price? Or not? If so, is this unprecedented?

 

[stwaldman]

So Riveria and the Grand (direct) are the same price? Or not? If so, is this unprecedented?

they are the same with slightly different incentives, which is pretty consistent with their pricing for scheme for non-sold out resorts for a little while now

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

So Riveria and the Grand (direct) are the same price? Or not? If so, is this unprecedented?

There are same base and very close on incentives and is completely normal with past history.

 

[BrianLo]

It seems they are on top of direct purchases again. I initiated the phone call less than two hours ago (recent resale so never had a guide). Phone call was about 20 minutes total. Contract Docusign about 90 minutes after hanging up. Points are loaded and I'm still under 2 hours from 'cold calling'.

I had a very pleasant 45 day turnaround resale purchase for SSR points over the holidays, but obviously this was also exceedingly smooth.

 

[Tbella]

My guide said they are getting caught up on the new contracts, so hopefully they move quickly! I did find out that you have to be in the system for 48 hours prior to booking at the new building - so anyone buying today won’t be able to make a reservation until Tuesday at the earliest.

I purchased a GF2 contract yesterday and was able to call and book the GF2 studios today.

 

[hbg1]

Talked to my guide over the weekend and bought our 200 point add on
Going to call MS tomorrow morning and try to get a resort studio for the summer, can't wait!

 

[DGbuckeye]

I recently bought a small resale DVC contract (50 points at BLT) will I be able to buy a small (25-50points) direct VGF2 contract once my membership is activated? Or do you have to be a full direct member?

 

[Sandisw]

I recently bought a small resale DVC contract (50 points at BLT) will I be able to buy a small (25-50points) direct VGF2 contract once my membership is activated? Or do you have to be a full direct member?

Once you are an owner, you can add on the minimum for owners, which is 50 points for VGF.

You won’t be eligible for membership extras until you reach 150 direct points, but can definitely buy less than that.

Those 50 points would be eligible for booking RIV and future resorts, even though your resale points can not.

 

[Marionnette]

I recently bought a small resale DVC contract (50 points at BLT) will I be able to buy a small (25-50points) direct VGF2 contract once my membership is activated? Or do you have to be a full direct member?

The minimum purchase for VGF2 is 50 points for any member regardless of whether your existing points are resale or direct.

 

[nuhusky123]

So with poly2 I will want to be as far away from construction as I can get. In my view while poly2 is being built. Big pine key is the far superior building

 

[Paul Stupin]

So with poly2 I will want to be as far away from construction as I can get. In my view while poly2 is being built. Big pine key is the far superior building

You‘re probably right! On the plus side, it looks to me that the construction won’t be visible from the lake view side, which we love.

Though I way prefer VGF over Poly, an argument can be made that Disney should have given DVC owners the same courtesy that they’re giving the general public / new buyers, and should have announced the Poly expansion before VGF2 sales. For owners who bought that first week, the ten day window to nullify the deal has already passed. It doesn’t seem either fair or right for those VGF buyers who would have rather waited for Poly.

 

[nuhusky123]

poly2 probably is going to decrease the resale value of gfv for quite sometime if not permanently

 

[Paul Stupin]

poly2 probably is going to decrease the resale value of gfv for quite sometime if not permanently

Why?

 

[nuhusky123]

Why?

Couple reasons from my perspective

big draw of vgf was location and walkable to mk. Poly2 is close enough to vgf1 to be considered a sister building. Location now a wash

big draw of vgf was the better mix of rooms over poly which pretty much just had studios as the water bungalow required millionaire owners

poly2 will be brand new, vgf isn’t

vgf2 will be on sale for a few years and until sold out resale prices have to be below direct

vgf resale points cannot be priced above vgf direct or poly2 direct

. For the reasons stated above as a new buyer will you buy pol2 or vgf resale. Either way resale prices will be directly controled by both gfv2 and then eventually poly2 direct pricing