The US Covid Recovery is Exceptional. Why? What did it do different?

[godisney14]

You are also in the state that has the second-highest population in the United States.

More of a political reason than population size reason regarding Medicaid expansion.
Pretty much the states that are in the BIG12 and SEC (plus WY, SD, WI) did not expand Medicaid.
The same states where their government leaders have been supporting new legislature that changes coverage criteria that effectively either eliminates pre-existing condition protections or makes it cost prohibitive for those with conditions.

Here’s an interesting fact: FL has the highest number of individuals receiving subsidy through the individual exchange.

 

[JimMIA]

More of a political reason than population size reason regarding Medicaid expansion.
Pretty much the states that are in the BIG12 and SEC (plus WY, SD, WI) did not expand Medicaid.
The same states where their government leaders have been supporting new legislature that changes coverage criteria that effectively either eliminates pre-existing condition protections or makes it cost prohibitive for those with conditions.

Here’s an interesting fact: FL has the highest number of individuals receiving subsidy through the individual exchange.

We were talking about covid -- not Medicaid or pre-existing conditions or football. Covid is not a pre-existing condition, and envy of the SEC is not a disease no matter how widespread it might be.

Your post is the kind of intentional politicization that gets threads locked.

 

[SaintsManiac]

Covid isn’t a pre-existing condition YET.

 

[JimMIA]

Covid isn’t a pre-existing condition YET.

Agree. And therefore...pre-existing conditions are not an argument for this thread.

 

[HiStitch626]

The US is a republic, unlike most countries, and the national government is constrained by our constitution from imposing its will on our states.

The issue is not that we are a republic, but that we are a federal republic. This leads to the variety of responses to issues.

A federal mark mandate would have gone far to help slow the death rate.

 

[JimMIA]

The issue is not that we are a republic, but that we are a federal republic. This leads to the variety of responses to issues.

A federal mark mandate would have gone far to help slow the death rate.

You're right about the federal republic. However, what would the authority have been for a federal mask mandate? There is none.

But that doesn't really matter for this thread. This thread is not about covid -- it's just another "Orange Man Bad" thread.

 

[godisney14]

We were talking about covid -- not Medicaid or pre-existing conditions or football. Covid is not a pre-existing condition, and envy of the SEC is not a disease no matter how widespread it might be.

Your post is the kind of intentional politicization that gets threads locked.

Let’s step back a couple comments.

My response was about your comment as to why Texas didn’t expand Medicaid.

Based on your response, I take it that you got my point.

 

[JimMIA]

Let’s step back a couple comments.

My response was about your comment as to why Texas didn’t expand Medicaid.

Based on your response, I take it that you got my point.

I don't think I commented on Texas' decisions regarding expanding Medicaid.

Another poster said that Texas had the highest number of uninsured people and I pointed out that Texas also has the 2nd largest population in the US, so I would expect them to be up there.

But who do you like between Auburn and LSU this weekend? Or UCF-Houston?

 

[HiStitch626]

Perhaps no mandate, but strong encouragement would have helped.

I think that is one of the things that made us different from other countries. In many places, mask wearing is more common, so people adapted more easily to that protocol than people in the US

 

[SaintsManiac]

Yes, leading by example would have been very helpful.

 

[godisney14]

Perhaps no mandate, but strong encouragement would have helped.

I think that is one of the things that made us different from other countries. In many places, mask wearing is more common, so people adapted more easily to that protocol than people in the US

Saw this on someone’s social media post.
Anyone from Lithuania here?
https://m.kauno.diena.lt/naujienos/...evejima-nebijokite-sudrausminti-zmoniu-993314

ETA: Hopefully, this picture doesn’t violate some kind of DISboards rule. If so, mods please feel free to delete.

ETA2: Deleted picture. Replaced with original article link. Safer for mods?

 

[JimMIA]

Yes, leading by example would have been very helpful.

I assume you're going with LSU...right?

 

[JimMIA]

Saw this on someone’s social media post.
Anyone from Lithuania here?

ETA: Hopefully, this picture doesn’t violate some kind of DISboards rule. If so, mods please feel free to delete.

Google Translate is either your friend...or will get this deleted and get you points!

 

[JimMIA]

ETA2: Deleted picture. Replaced with original article link. Safer for mods?

Naw...they're onto you!

[Edit - jk!]

 

[aggiedog]

Another poster said that Texas had the highest number of uninsured people and I pointed out that Texas also has the 2nd largest population in the US, so I would expect them to be up there.

And I'm not sure it matters when the most populated state has approximately half the rate of uninsured. It's not about the denominator. It's about choosing to provide coverage for your population. And when a population is not provided access to medical care, consequences happen.

 

[MrsBooch]

Wow i am shocked this has made it to four pages already....

Edited:

Wow I am shocked this has made it to four pages already, without being deleted yet...

 

[sam_gordon]

1) This whole thread is "Fake News". Look at the title... "The US COVID recovery is exceptional". Doesn't 'exceptional' usually mean "good"?
2) Anyone else surprised the OP hasn't been back?
3) I'd like to know how a thread can violate guidelines and exactly how this thread did (note: I understand posts violating guidelines).
4)

 

[HiStitch626]

Exceptional means unusual or out of the ordinary. Exceptional - the exception to the norm. I think often people use it with a positive connotation but, at its root it is neither positive nor negative.

 

[NotUrsula]

The idea that because this is a federal republic that we cannot have nationwide mandates for infection control, and therefore are forced to accept a free-for-all of local policy is nonsense. Yes, power to enforce public health regulations devolves to the States under the Police Powers reservation of the 10th Amendment, but anyone who was an adult and not a teetotaler in 1984 knows dang good and well that there are ways around that limitation.

1984 was the year that the US Federal Government imposed the nationwide minimum drinking age of 21 (the last state fell into line in 1988.) It was done for PRECISELY the same reason that any nationwide masking policies or testing policies or quarantine policies would be: in the interest of states' responsibility to protect public safety. (After the change was made, the rate of alcohol-related fatal accidents dropped 14%, which is a depressingly compelling argument..)

How did the Federal Government make this happen? Cold hard cash. They withheld Federal highway funds from any state that failed to comply. (There were a whole lot of lawsuits by States protesting complying with the rule, but ultimately all of them failed.) There are plenty of Federal resources that States want &/or need that could be used to force compliance with enforcement of infection control mandates, it is simply a matter of finding which ones are the most valuable and refusing to provide them to states that fail to do so. Money talks.

 

[SmartyBacon]

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