The Running Thread--2024

[PrincessV]

Thanks @PrincessV for the detailed response. This is just the comparison I needed. Between your post and the reminder on my training journal about Brooks' great return policy, I've ordered a pair of the current Max on sale directly from them. If I hate them, I can at least swap for the Max 2 to try them out.

My pleasure! Your timing was spot-on - I’m wearing them at work today and I’ve been standing a lot more than usual because they feel so good! I don’t think I’ve ever been more excited about a running shoe in which I have no intention of running

 

[Professor_Cookie]

So, with my training plan I’m not sure what I hate more, the mile repeats or the tempo run. Gonna go with tempo since I have to do it every week.

Also, there is a dog and pony show going on with SLC and Park City sending representatives to plead the case for us hosting the Winter Olympics in 2034, but we are the only ones in the running, and there are already parties planned in town.

Also Olympics, Grant Fischer who is running the 5k and 10k for the US has moved to Park Cuty to train for the Olympics. Neat.

 

[jmasgat]

Interesting article on the very unconventional On Cloudboom Strike LS shoes. (Free....the article, most definitely not the shoes!)

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/15/...e_code=1.9k0.1e0k.4D6hj1Xb55Y4&smid=url-share

 

[nancipants]

I'm going to start getting up earlier so I can run before sending my son to school. I see so many running influencers talk about their fuel before long runs, and what they eat 60-90 minutes before a run. I'm like...okay, do you really wake up 90 minutes before a long run that starts at before 7 am? Because I'll be lucky to drag myself out of bed and get dressed/brush my teeth before getting out the door by 6:30. At most, I'll have an applesauce pouch or something. For long runs on the weekend I'll be able to start later, but even then, there's no way I'm awake/functional enough to eat 60-90 minutes before a normal long run. How do people do that??? LOL!

 

[GuinnessRunner]

I'm going to start getting up earlier so I can run before sending my son to school. I see so many running influencers talk about their fuel before long runs, and what they eat 60-90 minutes before a run. I'm like...okay, do you really wake up 90 minutes before a long run that starts at before 7 am? Because I'll be lucky to drag myself out of bed and get dressed/brush my teeth before getting out the door by 6:30. At most, I'll have an applesauce pouch or something. For long runs on the weekend I'll be able to start later, but even then, there's no way I'm awake/functional enough to eat 60-90 minutes before a normal long run. How do people do that??? LOL!

No kidding! I'm a morning person and no way I could do that. I don't really need fuel before most of my runs. Sometimes if it's a long run I may do a quick bar or gel. Maybe it influences my runs, but I don't notice it. If I had to start getting up at 4 just to run at 5, I'm pretty sure I would only be talking about when I "used to run."

 

[kps7795]

I'm going to start getting up earlier so I can run before sending my son to school. I see so many running influencers talk about their fuel before long runs, and what they eat 60-90 minutes before a run. I'm like...okay, do you really wake up 90 minutes before a long run that starts at before 7 am? Because I'll be lucky to drag myself out of bed and get dressed/brush my teeth before getting out the door by 6:30. At most, I'll have an applesauce pouch or something. For long runs on the weekend I'll be able to start later, but even then, there's no way I'm awake/functional enough to eat 60-90 minutes before a normal long run. How do people do that??? LOL!

Always keep in mind that you have to take EVERYTHING that you see on social media with a grain of salt. These "influencers" are often times completely full of sh$t.

 

[Naomeri]

I'm going to start getting up earlier so I can run before sending my son to school. I see so many running influencers talk about their fuel before long runs, and what they eat 60-90 minutes before a run. I'm like...okay, do you really wake up 90 minutes before a long run that starts at before 7 am? Because I'll be lucky to drag myself out of bed and get dressed/brush my teeth before getting out the door by 6:30. At most, I'll have an applesauce pouch or something. For long runs on the weekend I'll be able to start later, but even then, there's no way I'm awake/functional enough to eat 60-90 minutes before a normal long run. How do people do that??? LOL!

When I do pre-breakfast runs (which isn’t often because I’m bad at waking up early) I just eat one of these brioche waffles with some water. If it’s a long run, I’ll stick another one in my leggings pocket for the halfway mark.

 

[kps7795]

When I do pre-breakfast runs (which isn’t often because I’m bad at waking up early) I just eat one of these brioche waffles with some water. If it’s a long run, I’ll stick another one in my leggings pocket for the halfway mark.

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That looks good. I don't know if it's the best thing, but I always have a banana and 8 oz of water before my non-long runs.

 

[Professor_Cookie]

I'm going to start getting up earlier so I can run before sending my son to school. I see so many running influencers talk about their fuel before long runs, and what they eat 60-90 minutes before a run. I'm like...okay, do you really wake up 90 minutes before a long run that starts at before 7 am? Because I'll be lucky to drag myself out of bed and get dressed/brush my teeth before getting out the door by 6:30. At most, I'll have an applesauce pouch or something. For long runs on the weekend I'll be able to start later, but even then, there's no way I'm awake/functional enough to eat 60-90 minutes before a normal long run. How do people do that??? LOL!

I’m about the worst person to ask. I don’t consume anything before any run, weather I run earlier than 5 or I run at 8. I’ve tried but nothing seems that appealing that early. Couldn’t tell you if it hurts my performance, I don’t think I’ve ever been able to push myself hard enough to make it disadvantageous to me. I eat plenty of carbs everyday throughout the afternoon and evening including peanut butter and honey sandwiches and oats with plenty of maple syrup. I do take room temp Gatorade on long runs and my now weekly tempo runs.

That probably goes hand in hand with me not wanting to do super challenging exercises because I’m(and this is also a personal feeling) sure they really only help elites searching for seconds when there are other things I can put effort into that I generally don’t in the long haul, like consistency.

 

[Professor_Cookie]

I'm going to start getting up earlier so I can run before sending my son to school. I see so many running influencers talk about their fuel before long runs, and what they eat 60-90 minutes before a run. I'm like...okay, do you really wake up 90 minutes before a long run that starts at before 7 am? Because I'll be lucky to drag myself out of bed and get dressed/brush my teeth before getting out the door by 6:30. At most, I'll have an applesauce pouch or something. For long runs on the weekend I'll be able to start later, but even then, there's no way I'm awake/functional enough to eat 60-90 minutes before a normal long run. How do people do that??? LOL!

That said, on race days, I generally try to eat a plain bagel at minimum when I wake up, since I’ll be up for hours before the race start.

 

[Dopey 2020]

I’m in a constant state of being carb loaded from the night before because I love a good meal and my wife is an exceptional cook who enjoys making dishes as a hobby but breakfast is usually a light snack, something like an English muffin or pop tart and a cup of coffee. Then grab some gels and head out the door. Race days are always a PB&J.

 

[nancipants]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who can't fathom waking up that early just to eat something before a run!

 

[PrincessV]

I actually chose not to run early today, despite the insane heat… because I feel so awful from running on empty (and waking earlier than my body wants to.) I take a medication when I wake up that must be taken on an empty stomach and I can’t eat for an hour after taking it, and I also have chronically low blood sugar that’s lowest first thing in the morning. No way am I waking up at 4am to have time to eat before a 45 minute run, so I’ve just been filling a bottle with Gatorade or Tailwind and sipping it on my run to raise my blood sugar a little and get some fluids in at the same time, and then I eat when I get done - it’s not great TBH. I still wind up running on really low glucose, which results in not feeling strong on the run and gives me a headache the rest of the day. I think if I had normal blood sugar it would probably be fine, though. I’m looking forward to the sun going down earlier so I can run after work instead, when I’m way better fueled.

For long runs I absolutely do get up early enough to eat breakfast an hour before my run, even when that means a 4am wake-up (HUGE perk to no longer doing marathon distances is never needing to be up that early, though!) It’s either a piece of wheat toast with peanut butter and honey and a banana or oatmeal with a banana. I feel SO much better running those days!

 

[accm]

The only time I would worry about waking up earlier to eat would be when I'm running more than 1.5hrs, when I'm working on my race day nutrition anyways.
My runs during the week aren't long enough for me to worry about eating beforehand, and for my less than 1.5hr long runs on weekends, if I'm feeling like I need extra fuel before the run, I'll have a glass of OJ or something. Does it do anything? Probably not. Does it trick my body into thinking it's not hungry? Surprisingly yes.

 

[mmm_texas]

I'm going to start getting up earlier so I can run before sending my son to school. I see so many running influencers talk about their fuel before long runs, and what they eat 60-90 minutes before a run. I'm like...okay, do you really wake up 90 minutes before a long run that starts at before 7 am? Because I'll be lucky to drag myself out of bed and get dressed/brush my teeth before getting out the door by 6:30. At most, I'll have an applesauce pouch or something. For long runs on the weekend I'll be able to start later, but even then, there's no way I'm awake/functional enough to eat 60-90 minutes before a normal long run. How do people do that??? LOL!

Count me in with the group that doesn't worry about pre-run fueling, at least for training runs. For shorter runs (10k or less) I don't think it helps me, and for training I usually take my longer runs really easy (following Jeff Galloway's advice that you can't go too slow on a long training run), so I'm mostly (hopefully) staying in a fat-burning zone.

That said, if I'm doing something like a Dopey simulation, or before a race, I'll try to watch my fueling in the prior couple of days, then a very light breakfast, and finally gels during the run. So on those more serious days I would wake up early to eat, but not for most long runs.

 

[nancipants]

That said, if I'm doing something like a Dopey simulation, or before a race, I'll try to watch my fueling in the prior couple of days, then a very light breakfast, and finally gels during the run. So on those more serious days I would wake up early to eat, but not for most long runs.

Good point, there will definitely be some runs where I wake up early to simulate marathon day. But I can't imagine doing that for every run.

 

[MissLiss279]

On my weekday runs, where I start at 5am and my runs are just under an hour, I don’t eat. I generally get up 20-30 minutes before I run.
For long runs on Saturday, I will eat before I run. Generally if I have a shorter long run and I will meet the group at 7 am, I will get up at 5:45ish (depending on how far away we meet), which is sleeping in! Ha! If I have 3-5 hours of running, I am starting at 5 or 6. Like this past weekend, I wanted to start at 5, so I got up at 4:10 so I would have at least 45 minutes to digest/process some of my food.
But that time is not too different from my normal weekday time that I get up (4:25-4:35).

 

[Zutroy]

I exercise on an empty stomach for most runs. I wake up at 5, have a cup of coffee, drink some water, use the Theragun on my legs, and then start my run ~5:45. If I’m going 10+ miles, I’ll have a pop-tart or two pieces of toast. If I’m going 15+ miles, I’ll put some peanut butter on the toast or oatmeal and bring chews along. Simple carbs that get digested quickly and won’t leave me feeling heavy. Since I eat enough during the day, most of the time there simply is no need to supplement for running.

 

[kps7795]

I exercise on an empty stomach for most runs. I wake up at 5, have a cup of coffee, drink some water, use the Theragun on my legs, and then start my run ~5:45. If I’m going 10+ miles, I’ll have a pop-tart or two pieces of toast. If I’m going 15+ miles, I’ll put some peanut butter on the toast or oatmeal and bring chews along. Simple carbs that get digested quickly and won’t leave me feeling heavy. Since I eat enough during the day, most of the time there simply is no need to supplement for running.

How about peanut butter ON the pop-tart? I'm thinking the Frosted Chocolate Fudge Pop-Tarts. I don't even eat pop-tarts, but that sounds good to me.

 

[GollyGadget]

I'm going to start getting up earlier so I can run before sending my son to school. I see so many running influencers talk about their fuel before long runs, and what they eat 60-90 minutes before a run. I'm like...okay, do you really wake up 90 minutes before a long run that starts at before 7 am? Because I'll be lucky to drag myself out of bed and get dressed/brush my teeth before getting out the door by 6:30. At most, I'll have an applesauce pouch or something. For long runs on the weekend I'll be able to start later, but even then, there's no way I'm awake/functional enough to eat 60-90 minutes before a normal long run. How do people do that??? LOL!

You've heard lots of similar sentiments already but thought I'd share mine anyway. I am a morning person. I regularly wake up at 5:30/6 without an alarm. However, I like to start my morning very slowly and actually dislike running that early. That said, sometimes my schedule or the weather dictates morning running. I only worry about eating beforehand if it's an actual long run that will take me over 2 hours and also require fueling. This morning I ran for 80 minutes before breakfast and felt no ill effects. I'm sure there are advantages to eating prior, but, like you, I'm not waking up early just to eat breakfast. Consistency over perfection.