The Running Thread - 2019

[JulieODC]

Since we derailed on this subject (although uterus reversal is quite extreme, stress leaks are more common), one thing I want to mention on this running board is the importance of doing pelvic floor reinforcement exercises. Pregnancy, running, aging... As my gynOb says: « We are all going in that direction » due to gravity.

I have decided that when my DD grow old, and if they have kids, I will offer them a series of appointments with a PF physiotherapist after they give birth, it is an important part of our health.

YES! Couldn’t agree more.

 

[KevM]

I lucked out with my primary care doctor (who just retired), he was a triathlete. So he was all for me running. His only advice was for me to make sure I listened to my body when it came to overtraining.

 

[TheHamm]

I am looking for some input and figure you are all better sources than Dr. Google, and many of you sing the praises of foam rolling which I hope can help.
I am reasonably sure my hip pain is due to over stretching the deep rotating muscles at the hot yoga class my friend talked me into (I love yoga, hate hot yoga, but love my friend) where pigeon was held for quite some time. This was further irritated by a road trip up north where I sat in the car for hours and spent the next day walking oddly. I took a week off of everything and it felt a bit better, so then I ran, which was fine until 2 hours later, so I spent the next week not running. I got a massage and that helped for a day or two, so I think foam rolling would help, but I have no idea how to get into the psoas, piraformis, gemmelus, etc. Have you any foam rolling advice? Any other thoughts about this as it is now 3 weeks with minimal running?

 

[jmasgat]

My 1.5 cents worth (cause everyone's body is different and it's probably not worth 2!)...... If you can stop running for a week or two, that would be my first advice. Sometimes total rest is best. And now that you are done rolling your eyes at that, we can move on!

I don't have any specific foam rolling techniques for this area, because I have personally found that if I have an injured area, it doesn't take kindly to foam rolling. (For me rolling works best as a preventive) Stretching, yes, but rolling, no. Since you seem to have isolated the affected muscles, if you want to explore stretching, I'll pass along one of my reference sites. It has a lot of info on muscle groups, function, stretching and strengthening.

https://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory
I'm sure you'll get lots of useful info from others. Hope it resolves soon.

 

[Wendy98]

I am looking for some input and figure you are all better sources than Dr. Google, and many of you sing the praises of foam rolling which I hope can help.
I am reasonably sure my hip pain is due to over stretching the deep rotating muscles at the hot yoga class my friend talked me into (I love yoga, hate hot yoga, but love my friend) where pigeon was held for quite some time. This was further irritated by a road trip up north where I sat in the car for hours and spent the next day walking oddly. I took a week off of everything and it felt a bit better, so then I ran, which was fine until 2 hours later, so I spent the next week not running. I got a massage and that helped for a day or two, so I think foam rolling would help, but I have no idea how to get into the psoas, piraformis, gemmelus, etc. Have you any foam rolling advice? Any other thoughts about this as it is now 3 weeks with minimal running?

Lately, I have been using the lacrosse ball exclusively. I have such tightness in my hips and glutes, that little ball really works it out. If you aren't familiar, a lacrosse ball is similar to a racquetball in size and it is rubbery, but very hard like a baseball. I stand along a wall and press into it, rolling on it against my troubled areas. When I find "the spot", I hold it and breath through it for about 20 seconds--similar to how my massage therapist does active release therapy. I do still foam roll, especially my tight hamstrings. There's a million youtube videos on proper technique.

I have trouble with sitting for too long, especially in a car. That whole area starts screaming. Last week, I had to sit in a metal folding chair for "meet the teacher" night. It was awful and all I could think about was getting up.

 

[Waiting2goback]

I have been off the boards for months. I hope that everyone out there is doing well. It has been a crazy few months for me and I pretty much let all my social media items drop off. But I often think about the Running Thread and just wanted to reach out and update. First, @LSUlakes please pull me off all my races for the rest of the year, until Dopey. I re-injured my ankle back in late spring and am just now getting back into running form and no where near ready for the races I thought I would be when I signed up last winter. Good news is I am going to hit 100 miles this month for the first time in a VERY long time and I am starting to get my running legs back. I am going slower and taking more recovery time and continuing my third round of PT but I am running! I am setting my sights on Dopey and then we will see after that.

Congrats to all those out there racing and running!

What did you do? I am very sensitive to ankle injuries now. I had actually been wondering how you have been doing as it has been a struggle for me this year.

Okay. Pulling this one from recent experience.

QOTD- do you feel guilt for long times spent training away from your family?

Attqotd:yes, heavy guilt. That’s one of the big reasons I backed off further long races for a while. I also think it had started to interfere with my weight loss, too.

I used to when I first started. My ex-wife always tried to make me feel guilty but I now realize it was because she wanted me to fail. I don't feel guilty any more. Having not been able to run a lot of the year I realized just how much I need it. It makes me a better dad. The kids are old enough now that if I am out for an hour they don't care. Fitting it into the schedule with 7 kids, that's been harder to deal with.

I knew y'all would appreciate my run in with a medical professional today. She told me I need to stop all running and weight lifting because it wasn't good for me She said swimming was better and to do yoga/pilates for strength training because they don't fatigue you as much. Meanwhile she had photos of her daughter who competes in gymnastics at the collegiate level plastered all over the walls.

Both doctors I went to for my ankles have said absolutely not to stop running. They said if you stop you will gain weight and that will end up doing damage to your ankles too.

I have been very busy with vacations and stuff this summer. Kids are back in school of of this week so I am hoping to get back into my routine and resume consistent contributions on here again.

An update for me. After my doctor told me my tendon was pristine I got to thinking, maybe everything is just tight and that's why it hurts. I am so tight I can literally feel my hamstrings pull if I bend over to pick something up. So I have started stretching every day with the hopes of running back at the beginning of August. I ended up getting a foot injury on my vacation and sliced three of my toes open and lost a nail completely on a my middle toe. So I had to wait even longer. I am happy to report, I have been running, pain free, the last 2 weeks. Had to take a few days off this week as they are spraying for mosquitoes that are carrying EEE. They recommended no outdoor activities or air conditioners on during spraying.

Anyway, I am at roughly 18.4 miles for the month with a run set for Saturday. And I a doing it with no braces on, which I haven't done in 2 years. I should finish the month at over 20, which isn't bad for 2 weeks and not having run for 9+ months. I am allowing myself to take it slow. I don't care about pace right now, mileage totals, etc... I am just building strength and making sure I stay stretched out. I am a little mad I didn't figure this out sooner but I am glad the MRI cleared things up for me, it gave me much more confidence that nothing bad will be happening soon.

I even hope to find a race this fall, probably just a 10K if I can.

 

[TheHamm]

My 1.5 cents worth (cause everyone's body is different and it's probably not worth 2!)...... If you can stop running for a week or two, that would be my first advice. Sometimes total rest is best. And now that you are done rolling your eyes at that, we can move on!

I don't have any specific foam rolling techniques for this area, because I have personally found that if I have an injured area, it doesn't take kindly to foam rolling. (For me rolling works best as a preventive) Stretching, yes, but rolling, no. Since you seem to have isolated the affected muscles, if you want to explore stretching, I'll pass along one of my reference sites. It has a lot of info on muscle groups, function, stretching and strengthening.

https://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory
I'm sure you'll get lots of useful info from others. Hope it resolves soon.

I spent plenty of time rolling my eyes at myself as I argued to run or not to run the first week, I have no more eye roll for you!
Thank you for the link, I can always use more strength training.

Lately, I have been using the lacrosse ball exclusively. I have such tightness in my hips and glutes, that little ball really works it out. If you aren't familiar, a lacrosse ball is similar to a racquetball in size and it is rubbery, but very hard like a baseball. I stand along a wall and press into it, rolling on it against my troubled areas. When I find "the spot", I hold it and breath through it for about 20 seconds--similar to how my massage therapist does active release therapy. I do still foam roll, especially my tight hamstrings. There's a million youtube videos on proper technique.

I have trouble with sitting for too long, especially in a car. That whole area starts screaming. Last week, I had to sit in a metal folding chair for "meet the teacher" night. It was awful and all I could think about was getting up.

I'm sure I can find a kid toy close enough to a lacrosse ball hiding in my basement, I will give it a try. We get tiny 1st grade chairs, I just sat on the circle time rug!

 

[avondale]

My 1.5 cents worth (cause everyone's body is different and it's probably not worth 2!)...... If you can stop running for a week or two, that would be my first advice. Sometimes total rest is best. And now that you are done rolling your eyes at that, we can move on!

I don't have any specific foam rolling techniques for this area, because I have personally found that if I have an injured area, it doesn't take kindly to foam rolling. (For me rolling works best as a preventive) Stretching, yes, but rolling, no. Since you seem to have isolated the affected muscles, if you want to explore stretching, I'll pass along one of my reference sites. It has a lot of info on muscle groups, function, stretching and strengthening.

https://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory
I'm sure you'll get lots of useful info from others. Hope it resolves soon.

I agree with the idea that you probably don't want to foam roll an injury. You may have some surrounding or opposing muscles that are tight that could benefit from foam rolling.

For an injury like that, I'd probably look more at the components of RICE that are applicable, probably mostly the icing if you can hit the spot. And some use of ibuprofen for the inflammation.

It is frustrating to have what seems like a "dumb" injury last so long.

 

[jmasgat]

@Waiting2goback Good for you for working on the stretching/tightness issues (although didn't anyone along the way suggest a proper course of stretching?) The more time passes, the more I have come to rely on my self-body knowledge to resolve issues. No offense to the medical professionals, but unless they are veteran runners, they ofen don't understand/get it. We are our own best advocates.

 

[Waiting2goback]

@Waiting2goback Good for you for working on the stretching/tightness issues (although didn't anyone along the way suggest a proper course of stretching?) The more time passes, the more I have come to rely on my self-body knowledge to resolve issues. No offense to the medical professionals, but unless they are veteran runners, they ofen don't understand/get it. We are our own best advocates.

Not only has nobody mentioned this to me along the way but the doctor, when asked what could be causing the pain if the tendon was fine, never even suggested it as a possibility. I’m still in the beginning stages here, so the pain could come back, but as of now there hasn’t really been any signs of it. I can usually feel it coming on. I am running with my orthotics but I did that back in May/June and didn’t have much success. So I am hopeful. Keeping my fingers crossed.

 

[TheHamm]

It is Friday and I am planning a giant work trip instead of a Disney trip, and am debating how bad of an idea it is to run today. So, I'm thinking about Disney & Running

QOTD
If you could pick a Disney property (park or not) to run through with a Disney character (or team of characters) where would it be, what distance, and who would you bring to life?

 

[Barca33Runner]

Fun Friday QOTD:

The gang from the Hundred Acre Wood through any park or property. With Pooh and Eeyore I don’t think we’d be doing much running, though. Tigger would cover approximately 25x the distance the rest of us traversed by bouncing ahead, behind, and around is the whole time. I think a full day of park hopping, getting lost, hiding from heffalumps and woozles, etc. would be pretty fun. No set distance required.

 

[OldSlowGoofyGuy]

ATTQOTD: Donald Duck (not sure why, except I like the half distance, and I'm pretty sure I can beat him unless he can fly, but we know that's impossible). We'd loop around MK, hitting Main Street and running through the castle on every loop until we hit 13.1.

Oh yeah, it would be the 1979 MK.

 

[roxymama]

Since it seems time travel is at play now, I'll go for Epcot circa mid 80's with my boy Figment. Seems waddley enough that he wouldn't be too fast for me and he could just flutter around on his tiny wings if he got tired. I'd add in character stops with the future world fab 5 in their astronaut rainbow get-ups to increase nostalgia points.

I feel like Dash and Pocahontas would likely win overall in the character division. Unless you allow flying and then maybe Tink would take it. And for that reason I'll let them run with someone else.

 

[rteetz]

If you could pick a Disney property (park or not) to run through with a Disney character (or team of characters) where would it be, what distance, and who would you bring to life?

I was gonna say Big Al but he probably wouldn't make it very far...

I think maybe Chewie and through SWGE would be my answer. Distance could be 100 feet and I would be happy.

 

[Professor_Cookie]

1 lap of magic kingdom with Korg.

 

[LdyStormy76]

Fun Friday QOTD:

The gang from the Hundred Acre Wood through any park or property. With Pooh and Eeyore I don’t think we’d be doing much running, though. Tigger would cover approximately 25x the distance the rest of us traversed by bouncing ahead, behind, and around is the whole time. I think a full day of park hopping, getting lost, hiding from heffalumps and woozles, etc. would be pretty fun. No set distance required.

This. Would also add Roo to the group.

A second choice would be Robin Hood and Maid Marion from the 1973 animated film; a 10k at Disneyland Paris.

 

[flav]

QOTD: Because runDisney race start in the dark, I would probably choose to run with the Vilains, seems dramatic, stealthy. Hollywood Studios and Epcot (Wine and Dine 10k route) seem fitting but I have never seen MK decorated for Halloween so I would like to add that as well. DL would also be great, maybe add the Avengers on the CA side?

 

[flav]

I have a question for ASICS Nimbus users: After how many miles do you retire them? And how close to an event do you introduce new ones in your rotation?

I have nicknames for my ASICS Nimbus 19.
I retired my first pair, Maleficient, at 672km (418 miles) and am on the fence about retiring Beach at 654km (406 miles) and Onyx at 586km (364 miles). I keep my White Blues for winter 500km (310 miles) and will use my Volt 298km (185 miles) for my first Marathon in three weeks. Am I wasteful retiring my shoes in the 400 miles range? And I want to have enough in rotation come January to run Dopey so I will probably introduce Anna this morning.

 

[Dopey 2020]

I have a question for ASICS Nimbus users: After how many miles do you retire them? And how close to an event do you introduce new ones in your rotation?

I have nicknames for my ASICS Nimbus 19.
I retired my first pair, Maleficient, at 672km (418 miles) and am on the fence about retiring Beach at 654km (406 miles) and Onyx at 586km (364 miles). I keep my White Blues for winter 500km (310 miles) and will use my Volt 298km (185 miles) for my first Marathon in three weeks. Am I wasteful retiring my shoes in the 400 miles range? And I want to have enough in rotation come January to run Dopey so I will probably introduce Anna this morning.

Sorry I can’t help you with ASICS but I can tell you 400 is my number for my mizunos. I hate dropping $$ when my shoes still look new at a glance but have to admit there is a big difference after that many miles so I move them into the pile of ‘walk around Disney’ shoes.
I’ve noticed that I like them the best between 150 and 300 miles, they just seem to fit and have all the support and cushion I’m looking for. I did run my first marathon with only 80 on a pair but plan to have a couple pairs ready for dopey with 150 or so on them.

Edit: love the names, I may have to steal that idea