The Running Thread - 2016

I have been away from Disboards for a bit - life is busy! But I'm popping in here to ask a question. One of these days I might actually keep up in here :)

I recently ran my first half marathon (yay! It was awesome!). My shoes really needed replacing, so I went to get new ones yesterday. Tried out a new model, and took them on a 2 mile run this morning. First mile was fine, but the second mile I started getting knee and shin pain that I've never had happen before. Now, after the half my left foot was sore - kind of a bruised feeling on the top left of the foot - but it has been getting better. Can you get sudden pain like that from new shoes? I'm thinking it must be them, because it's the only thing I've changed since the race, and the other issue with my foot had been improving fine. Figured I'd ask some people who might know more than me!
 
I have been away from Disboards for a bit - life is busy! But I'm popping in here to ask a question. One of these days I might actually keep up in here :)

I recently ran my first half marathon (yay! It was awesome!). My shoes really needed replacing, so I went to get new ones yesterday. Tried out a new model, and took them on a 2 mile run this morning. First mile was fine, but the second mile I started getting knee and shin pain that I've never had happen before. Now, after the half my left foot was sore - kind of a bruised feeling on the top left of the foot - but it has been getting better. Can you get sudden pain like that from new shoes? I'm thinking it must be them, because it's the only thing I've changed since the race, and the other issue with my foot had been improving fine. Figured I'd ask some people who might know more than me!
I have never had pain from a new pair of shoes like you describe without putting in enough miles for the change to make an impact on my body. For me, that would mean tens of miles, not one or two miles. I have had hot spots and uncomfortable feelings in my feet or arches which led me to return shoes after only a few miles, but nothing like you describe.
 
Now, after the half my left foot was sore - kind of a bruised feeling on the top left of the foot

When that happens to me, it usually means I have them laced too tight. Maybe the new laces are less forgiving than the old comfy ones?

It seems like the only way new shoes could immediately cause knee and shin pain is if they are completely wrong for you, like motion control shoes when you need cushioning or vice-versa.

What are the old and new shoe models?
 
Just wanted to pop in and introduce myself. We are due to take our next WDW vacation in January 2018 (we moved to Australia from Scotland so vacations to Disney won't be as frequent)! I know it is a looooonng way off but I have set myself a target of doing the 2018 WDW half marathon so I have decided to get back into running.

It has been a while and I have had two kids since I ran the London Marathon in 2007. I will need to build up gradually so I did a 5k on Sunday at a local Sportsfest in a rather slow 39.38mins. I am also doing the Lake Macquarie 5k Color Run on October 16. Aiming to do a race a month as it really keeps my motivation up. Sorry my intro is so long. Been lurking for a while so wanted to say hi!

Welcome to the thread! Like others have said, its never to early to start planning for a trip to WDW and to prepare for a race! Best of luck with both. If you would like, let me know which races you are registered for and I can add them to the OP. If you add races later on, just let me know and I will add them as you let me know. I will need the following information for your races if you choose to share with us: Date - Username - Race Name (Goal/Result).

For the third, and final time this year, you can take me off the list. This will be my fourth race missed for injury in a year. It's getting old.

I'm sorry I keep tagging you for races that you aren't cleared to run yet. Happy this will be the last time it will happen and hope things improve sooner than later.

I have been away from Disboards for a bit - life is busy! But I'm popping in here to ask a question. One of these days I might actually keep up in here :)

I recently ran my first half marathon (yay! It was awesome!). My shoes really needed replacing, so I went to get new ones yesterday. Tried out a new model, and took them on a 2 mile run this morning. First mile was fine, but the second mile I started getting knee and shin pain that I've never had happen before. Now, after the half my left foot was sore - kind of a bruised feeling on the top left of the foot - but it has been getting better. Can you get sudden pain like that from new shoes? I'm thinking it must be them, because it's the only thing I've changed since the race, and the other issue with my foot had been improving fine. Figured I'd ask some people who might know more than me!

I don't think the new shoes would cause the problem after two miles. It's not impossible, but very unlikely. For it to be the shoes it would have to be a very different type of shoe from what you have been running in, and even then I don't think you would have a issue after only 1 run in them. What's more likely is you have a issue that was already existing. The description you mentioned above is something I experienced as well in the past. Does it also feel like you have rocks inside your shoes? Do you feel like your toes are curling under each other (more so the little toe)? These are the things I had going on along with the top of foot pain / bruised feeling. You can run with it, if your goal race is near, but if nothing big is coming up, I would suggest some time off as I was never able to get it to go away until I took a few weeks off after my goal race that year. I also purchased new shoes with a wider to box and changed they way I laced my shoes to give it some extra room. Doing those two things made it possible to continue to run for the short term. I ended up using the "Shoes Feel To Tight" method as seen below.
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After getting my foot looked at by a Dr. it was determined to be just inflammation of some of the tendons. Ice and anti-inflammatory meds also helped, but as I mentioned before, it is just a temporary fix to get you to race day in the short term. I know this may not be what you are hoping to hear, and your experience my vary from mine, but I think a few weeks off and then slowly getting back into it will be you best bet.
 

QOTD: How many days a week do you run? Does that vary during training cycles? How about when you first started running?

ATTQOTD: I am currently running 6 days a week. This is the first time ever doing so, and I do find it to be a bit challenging, but also very rewarding. The recovery runs are nearly as important as the LR and hard runs to make it work. When not training for a marathon I usually stick with 5 days of running. When I first started running I did Couch to 5k, so how ever many days that was (maybe 4 days?) I have been at 5 until then. Although there are times when things don't exactly work out as you all know, life happens. It's funny to think how far I have come over the years to thinking running 20 MPW seemed so far in the early stages. Compared to this training cycle where I will stay between 45 to 55 on average. It's amazing what you can train your body to do over time. For those guys who run 70+ MPW, I would have to stop working to get that kind of mileage in.

Kind of rambling on here...
 
QOTD: How many days a week do you run? Does that vary during training cycles? How about when you first started running?

4 is my average number of days I run. I average about 21 miles a week. Distance for each run varies anywhere between 3 - 12 miles. I feel pretty comfortable with these numbers. When I do my next full, I will probably aim for upper-20's/lower-30's. The days I don't run (3 days a week) I incorporate some form of cross-training (resistance training or yoga) I also do about 2-3 hours a week of martial arts training on top of all that.

The frequency of my runs doesn't change during training cycles, only the kind of run. Usually after Christmas most of my runs become moderate, easy, or long runs; during the months leading up to a group of races, I'll up the number of intervals, fartleks, and tempo runs.
 
QOTD: How many days a week do you run? Does that vary during training cycles? How about when you first started running?
4 seems to be the sweet spot for me. I tried 3 last year and it didn't seem to be enough.

Right now I'm at 4 days of running (2 short runs, 1 mid-distance run and 1 long run), 2 days of lifting and 1-2 days of yoga (if I get to yoga it's on lifting days) with 1 day of rest each week.
 
ATTQOTD: I’m currently running everyday with 3 of those days being very slow and very easy days. I’m always keeping an eye on fatigue and pain and if necessary will take a day off. When I got back into marathoning for the 2014 WDW Marathon I ran 4 days a week and that worked great. As I’ve tried to hit more aggressive paces I’ve added days and miles. For me it’s taken those 3 years to feel comfortable with adding mileage and frequency.
 
Hey folks. Been off the boards for a bit but I figured I'd jump back in with QOTD.

ATTQOTD - right now I'm usually running 6 days a week but with my half coming soon it may vary between 5 and 6. Kind of feels off when I don't at least have a short run on the schedule.
 
15 MINUTES ON AN ACTUAL TREADMILL TODAY, Y'ALL!!!!! :yay::yay::yay::yay::yay::yay::yay:

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Those little happy guys are for you @Waiting2goback too since you are out of your boot.

ATTQOTD: I run 3 days a week. I wish it were more, but 3 is getting difficult as it is. Due to scheduling. My husband is training for the same race as me and he needs 3 days as well. My daughter really needs mom and dad time since we work full-time and she's in daycare all day. The hardest thing lately is my husband is travelling and entertaining clients a ton, it ebbs and flows so right now is just busy for him. For example, I was supposed to have my tempo run tonight, but hubby has a client dinner just scheduled. So that moves to Friday night (ick( and then my Long run needs to push from Sat to Sun. But hubby now has to go to Bears game on Sunday with a client (that's awesome but I am jealous) and so I'll have to juggle when I can fit it in. But I'm determined to do it.
Also if I ran more days a week I guarantee my house would be a disaster and we'd eat fast food nightly.
 
QOTD: How many days a week do you run? Does that vary during training cycles? How about when you first started running?

I am currently running 4 days a week (Rest, Easy, Easy, Tempo, Rest, Long, Rest) with some cross-training on the rest days. That's pretty much the same as when I first started running seriously with a Higdon half marathon plan in April 2015, only now my paces are defined based on my goal race pace.

I think the "slow down" philosophy and paces that @DopeyBadger set up has really helped me a LOT, cardio-wise. I'm sure some of the difference lies in the weather cooling off, but looking back at one of my first 4 mile "Easy B" runs on the plan in July my heart rate was 37% Zone 1/2 and 63% Zone 3/4. Contrast that with last night's 8 mile "Easy B" run where my heart rate was 95% Zone 1/2 and 5% Zone 3/4. It feels like I have come such a long way, even if my legs are really feeling the added miles right now. Also, it wasn't that long ago (January 2013) that I couldn't walk a half-mile in my neighborhood without stopping to catch my breath and rest my back!
 
QOTD: How many days a week do you run? Does that vary during training cycles? How about when you first started running?

Typically 3 to 4 days a week. I travel a lot for business so it can be hard to keep to a set schedule, but I always pack my running stuff so even if I can just get on the treadmill for a while to keep the legs moving.
 
QOTD: How many days a week do you run? Does that vary during training cycles? How about when you first started running?

My current training plan has me running 5 days per week. However, and I know this will sound strange, based on a hip flexor issue, my coach and I have decided to start running 6 days a week for a little while. This is due to my inability to go more than about 7 miles without starting to feel the hip flexor, so we are reducing daily mileage and increasing # of days to keep the weekly mileage in a similar range.

When I first started running, I was probably about 3 days per week, but that was 25+ years ago.
 
ATTQOTD - Typically, I would run 6 days/week for a marathon, or 5 days/week just for fun or when training for shorter runs. My base varies between 40 and 50 miles/week - right now at 50 in Dopey training.

This cycle and the last have been 7 days/week, something that I normally only do between training cycles to slowly build my base. This time I am running 3 times per week with my wife and our rD training group (all very new to running except for my wife). Those runs have a pace so slow that they don't impact my overall training. I have days in which I "double up" - running again before or after my runs with the rD group. So, some weeks I have 8 or 9 "runs", but never more than 7 at my training paces.

I also should note that only 2 runs/week are fast - one tempo and one VO2 workout. The rest are easy runs.
 














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